Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

a reply to: guaman

You seriously think the bridge isn't used for military purposes by the military? And Ukraine already is at war with Russia. You're really showing your power level here.

originally posted by: guaman
a reply to: Cutepants

Crimea is considered Russian territory by Russian government. Attacks on civilian infrastructure on Russian territory = declaration of war.

The bridge is sitting on territory,not actually part of that territory. Its not a natural formation and was built by ukraians. so its still their bridge to do with as they want.

a reply to: Cutepants

Men unlike women are tribal and territorial. Every day since America's declaration of independence in 1776 the US has been at war. Now the US is at war with Russia in Ukraine. Very expensive.

a reply to: guaman

Sometimes territorialism can be good. You should be glad you have men to defend your freedoms, unless you're Russian I guess.

a reply to: Cutepants

The US refused to conquer China and Russia in the 1940s when the US had nukes and demonstrated its power in Japan. Guess too late for the US to conquer China and Russia now that they have nukes too.

a reply to: guaman

I don't think it would be a good idea even without nukes, that would truly be expensive unlike Ukraine. At other times it's better to use soft power and subvert your enemies if you can.

a reply to: Cutepants

Of course, it is not in the US interest to conquer China and Russia. America has forever war with China and Russia. War is profit for military industrial complex.

originally posted by: guaman
a reply to: Cutepants

Of course, it is not in the US interest to conquer China and Russia. America has forever war with China and Russia. War is profit for military industrial complex.

Conquer?..how, and more importantly, how long could they possibly hold it? a fools venture.

a reply to: vonclod

Conquer is easy in 1940s when the US had nukes and China and Russia did not have nukes. When Germany conquered France they installed puppet regime in France. The US can install puppet regimes in China and Russia. Japan installed puppet regime in China when Japan took the Chinese capital city Nanking.

ATACMS is old missile with poor accuracy. Each HIMARS can only shoot 1 missile. They would need to shoot a dozen missiles to be able to hit Kerch bridge at 300 km distance. The more distance, the less accuracy. Bridges are hard to disable and easy to repair. Now that the land route to Crimea via Donetsk, Zaporizia, Kherson oblasts is complete, disabling Kerch bridge for a couple of weeks serves no strategic value other than pissing off entire Russian nation and escalating the war. I wouldn't be surprised if Kiev dam becomes a target if Kiev regime chooses to disable Kerch bridge or a couple of weeks.

a reply to: guaman

Did Japan hold China?

No, it didn't.

originally posted by: guaman
escalating the war.

Russia has been invading Ukraine since 2014.

Ukraine would not be escalating the war. They would be defending their territory.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

There were some resistance by Chiang Kai Shek and CCP but without Allied help China could not overthrow Japanese rule.

a reply to: Scrable

Communist party created Ukraine in 1921. Russia renounced Communist party and all actions done by Communist party. Russia does not recognize Ukraine.

a reply to: guaman
Sure, Russia has been trying to colonize Ukraine for hundreds of years.

Russia had to recognise Ukraine as a sovereign country in the early 1990's, after the USSR disintegrated.

a reply to: Scrable

Kiev is the original Slavic nation. It is Kiev that has been trying to colonize Russia and Belarus. Consequently, Russia and Belarus are threatened by Kiev.

originally posted by: guaman
a reply to: Scrable

Kiev is the original Slavic nation. It is Kiev that has been trying to colonize Russia and Belarus. Consequently, Russia and Belarus are threatened by Kiev.

That doesn’t even make any sense whatsoever!

Kiev (Ukraine) isn’t the aggressor in all this BS, it’s Russia all the way. They are the problem.

a reply to: guaman
How could Ukraine threaten Russia?

Didn't Russia used to be a super power.

originally posted by: Scrable

originally posted by: guaman
escalating the war.

Russia has been invading Ukraine since 2014.

Ukraine would not be escalating the war. They would be defending their territory.

Actually, Russia has been on and off invading the Ukraine for hundreds of years

a reply to: vonclod

Incorrect. Ukraine has been part of Russia since Mongol invasion.