Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

I saw this report.. He has not been seen for the last 2 weeks. One of the things he did was to force the Army and Air Force to work together inside Ukraine.

Ah, the Russians were reprising the role of the French military in 1940. Silly me, I thought those problems had been worked out by 1944.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Thats up there with Russian troops stealing a playstation(iirc) and then sending online demands from the Russian who stole the PS to the guy they stole it from in Ukraine demanding the online password.

For those cheering Russians advances in Donbas the only question I have is at what cost to the Russian Army did those advances come?

Russia has taken huge losses and once again that happens when you tell your troops they cant retreat.

This is the video being used by some, intentionally taking segments out of context.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Nothing like getting bitch-smacked by History.

* - Reports that Ukraine has destroyed another Russian landing craft near Snake Island.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Ukrainian troops blow up Russian tanks one-by-one in Donbas




Ukrainian laser-guided rocket blows up Russian tank.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Russia has limited the export of key gas for the production of semiconductors.

Alternate supplies are being secured and Russia is still banned from obtaining chips and other hitech computer items so their tantrum doesnt hurt anyone.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
‼️💥 Footage of a strike on the NATO arms supply route: a missile hit a strategic bridge near Odessa

The arms were not damaged and the bridge sustained minor damage.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
"Absolute lack of preparation before being sent to the front and chaos in the ranks of the Ukrainian army"

Also, 20-year-old guys who "played enough computer games" and decided to "try themselves in the war" came to the conflict zone, but the same thing was waiting for them.

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the number of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine has halved in a month — some of them were destroyed, others decided to flee.

Yeah they added their own bull# to the transcript, like total chaos in the Ukrainian forces, which is not in the video. The comments above this are also not contained in the video.

Because of that your posts using telegram accounts need to be scrutinized as they are Russian propaganda and nothing more.

It is a 33 second clip where is the part in it you claim is added or made up? Next time click on links and watch before making claims. If anything the post understates the chaos in the ranks and lack of preparation in the video "you " posted.



I am still haven't seen any evidence of T62s on the battlefield. Instead of Larping as a Ministry of Truth official, you should scrutinize your own sources a bit more before posing.

If this is how you cope with seeing news about Ukraine losing it isn't a good look. You should work on it.

[ Video ]
Russian military hit a group of Ukrainian infantry
In the Kherson region, a crowded group of Ukrainian infantry from the 28th mechanized brigade was hit.
As a result ofthe strike, 23 nationalists were killed and 32 received injuries of varying severity⚠️

t.me...

A continuation of the story with the destruction of a company of the 28th AFU brigade in the Nikolayev direction.
The survivors got into a boat and tried to sail away somewhere, but something went wrong again...

t.me...

Clashes continue in the villages of Davison Brod, Andriivka and Bilohirka in the Kherson region;
Russia attacked military assets of the AFU near Dolina with high-precision missiles;
Russia attacked military assets of the AFU near Slavyansk with high-precision missiles;
On June 1, 240 AFU members were killed and 39 armored vehicles were destroyed by the Russian Armed Forces, according to the Russian MOD;
Russian air defense systems shot down 7 Ukrainian drones near Odessa, Kamyshevakha, Popasnaya, Zolotoe, Kudryashovka in the Lugansk region, Yarovaya in the Kharkov region, as well as Verkhnetoretskoe in the Donetsk region.

MILITARY SITUATION IN UKRAINE ON JUNE 2, 2022 (MAP UPDATE)

a reply to: Grimpachi

Maybe learn to read instead of trying to deflect.

again -

Yeah they added their own bull# to the transcript, like total chaos in the Ukrainian forces, which is not in the video. The comments above this are also not contained in the video.

Not only are the words not contained in your video, they are not even contained in the entire UK interview posted.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
MILITARY SITUATION IN UKRAINE ON JUNE 2, 2022 (MAP UPDATE)

Southfront is a Russian propaganda site based in Russia. The site NewsFront is also Russian propaganda based in Crimea.

SouthFront (sometimes written South Front) is a multilingual website registered in Russia that "combines Kremlin talking points with detailed knowledge of military systems and ongoing conflicts... [and] attempts to appeal to military enthusiasts, veterans, and conspiracy theorists."According to the European Union's EU vs Disinfo, SouthFront publishes news focused on "security issues, foreign policy, military analysis and reports on military hardware" while "loyally relaying whatever suits the Kremlin."

In 2016, Finnish journalist Jessikka Aro writing in Springer Link described SouthFront as "an allegedly citizen-sourced project that looks more like a suspicious information operation." Describing it as "a fascinating hybrid of revealingly detailed military intelligence and totally bogus stories," she said that the site's content centers on "the success of Russia's armed forces, and showing off Russia's weapons."

In 2020, the US State Department described SouthFront as part of Russia's "disinformation and propaganda ecosystem," where Russian state actors team with others whose connection to Russia was less clear, in order to get wide attention for their ideas.

In 2021 and again in 2022, the US Treasury announced sanctions against SouthFront, calling it in 2021 "an online disinformation site registered in Russia that...attempts to appeal to military enthusiasts, veterans, and conspiracy theorists, all while going to great lengths to hide its connections to Russian intelligence."

The 2022 Treasury report alleged that SouthFront was sanctioned in part for being "owned or controlled by, or for having acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, the FSB" which is Russia's successor to Soviet Union's KGB.

In April 2020, Facebook and Twitter deleted many pages and accounts they said were linked to "Coordinated Inauthentic Behavior" by Russian actors, mentioning South Front as having "pushed misleading articles, questioning the results of the 2020 presidential election and the efficacy of Covid-19 vaccines."

According to EU vs Disinfo, however, both SouthFront and Crimea-based Newsfront were able to evade much of the Facebook effort.

In February 2022, Meta (formerly Facebook, Inc.) took action against both SouthFront and NewsFront, for a new round of deceptive activity. The Facebook report said that a network of fake accounts claiming to be people from Kyiv amplified content from "websites masquerading as independent news outlets, publishing claims about the West betraying Ukraine and Ukraine being a failed state."

[Forwarded from Russian Head]
[ Photo ]
Kamishevakha is completely clear of Ukrainian troops.

The allied forces report that they are ready to seal the cauldron.
#kamishevakha #donbas?cauldron #ukrainian_army

t.me...

Russia will strike at decision-making centers if Ukraine uses weapons received from the United States against Russian territories, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev told Al Jazeera TV channel.

t.me...

A warning regarding long-range MLRS missiles I'm sure.

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[ Album ]
💢 Russia now occupies about 24% of the territory of the former Ukraine — about 144 thousand square kilometers. You can clearly understand the scale by comparing the size of the occupied territories with the size of the territories of European states.

@NewResistance

t.me...

[ Album ]
💢 Ukraine admits to big losses on the Severodonetsk/Izyum front.

"What is the situation in the Limansky direction now

Julian Röpke, political editor of the Bild newspaper, says that the Ukrainian General Staff (as often happens, indirectly) confirms his information that the Armed Forces of Ukraine withdrew to the western bank of the Seversky Donets. As a result, five more villages came under the temporary control of the Russian army.

This means that the Russian invading forces have advanced 8 km from Liman and are now 11 km from Slovyansk. The river is Ukraine's last and probably best line of defense, before possible street fighting in the city, which Russia has openly articulated as the main target of the current offensive.

On another map, the journalist shows the offensive of the invaders north of Popasna."

t.me...

MAP
The Russian Army reportedly captured the villages of Ternova and Peremoha;
The Russian Army reportedly captured the villages of Shestakove and Fedorovka village;
Ukrainian positions in Udy, Slatino, Dergachy, Tsirkuny and Alexandrovka are shelled by Russian artillery;
The AFU attempt to cross the Seversky Donets River near the village of Hotomlya to attack Russian positions on the left bank of the Pechenezhskoe reservoir.

southfront.org...

[Forwarded from РОЛИКИ НА РАЗНЫХ ЯЗЫКАХ]
[ Video ]
"We couldn’t understand whom they were shooting at because there were no Russians in the city": A wounded girl from Mariupol on how the Ukrainian military destroyed residential buildings

🇬🇧 #english @video_languages

t.me...

a reply to: Xcathdra

You are citing the US government, Facebook, and Twitter as authorities on what is true.



Maybe you aren't larping as a Ministry of truth official. Maybe you are building a portfolio to get hired by Bidens Ministry of Truth.

Nina Jankowicza will be impressed.

GEC Special Report: August 2020 Pillars of Russia’s Disinformation and Propaganda Ecosystem

The report goes over how Russian propaganda is created and how it is pushed using proxies (like Southfront and Newsfront - both called out by name is the report)
From page 12 and 13 of the report -

Pillars of Russia’s Disinformation and Propaganda Ecosystem13

Highlights from the Proxy Site Profiles

SouthFront: Analysis and Intelligence
(a.k.a. SouthFront), is a multilingual online
disinformation site registered in Russia that
focuses on military and security issues. With
flashy infographics, maps, and videos, SouthFront
combines Kremlin talking points with detailed
knowledge of military systems and ongoing
conflicts. It attempts to appeal to military
enthusiasts, veterans, and conspiracy theorists, all
while going to great lengths to hide its connections
to Russia.

News Front: is a Crimea-based disinformation and
propaganda outlet with the self-proclaimed goal of
providing an “alternative source of information”
for Western audiences. With reported ties to the
Russian security services and Kremlin funding,
it is particularly focused on supporting Russia-
backed forces in Ukraine. News Front’s manipulative
tactics to boost reach led to a near total dismantling
of its presence on social media in early 2020.

Southfront - a site used extensively by some on the Russian war in Ukraine to justify Russia's actions, has its own section in the report, documenting its efforts to appear non-Russian (and failing miserably). The complete section starts om page 37.


On the off chance people wisah to discuss the report in depth and add information to it article now has its own thread -

ATS - GEC Special Report: August 2020 Pillars of Russia’s Disinformation and Propaganda Ecosystem

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

The sanctions on Russia are going to kill multiple times more people worldwide from famine than all the people on both sides of the Ukraine war die from bullets and bombs.

Yet, some want the world to step up and suffer more to teach Putin a lesson.

Clown world.

Which is exactly why most of the newest tech we gave Ukraine has a remote self destruct feature.

Not perfect yet, but it appears that we may have learned a lesson or two.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Russia has limited the export of key gas for the production of semiconductors.

Alternate supplies are being secured and Russia is still banned from obtaining chips and other hitech computer items so their tantrum doesnt hurt anyone.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
‼️💥 Footage of a strike on the NATO arms supply route: a missile hit a strategic bridge near Odessa

The arms were not damaged and the bridge sustained minor damage.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
"Absolute lack of preparation before being sent to the front and chaos in the ranks of the Ukrainian army"

Also, 20-year-old guys who "played enough computer games" and decided to "try themselves in the war" came to the conflict zone, but the same thing was waiting for them.

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the number of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine has halved in a month — some of them were destroyed, others decided to flee.

Yeah they added their own bull# to the transcript, like total chaos in the Ukrainian forces, which is not in the video. The comments above this are also not contained in the video.

Because of that your posts using telegram accounts need to be scrutinized as they are Russian propaganda and nothing more.

It is a 33 second clip where is the part in it you claim is added or made up? Next time click on links and watch before making claims. If anything the post understates the chaos in the ranks and lack of preparation in the video "you " posted.



I am still haven't seen any evidence of T62s on the battlefield. Instead of Larping as a Ministry of Truth official, you should scrutinize your own sources a bit more before posing.

If this is how you cope with seeing news about Ukraine losing it isn't a good look. You should work on it.

The T-62 is over 60-years-old and it has been caught in a photo on a train in Melitopol railway station in southeastern Ukraine. According to a military report by the International Institute for Strategic Studies, there are 10,000 Russian tanks and 8,500 armored vehicles in storage. About 25-percent are T-62s

www.19fortyfive.com...



The first of the 62s have since been spotted unloading in Southern Ukraine, and at least a few hundred of them appear to be headed for russia's rear in the Kherson region.

On the exact same day that the first HIMARS battery was driven across the border into Ukraine and handed over to already trained Ukrainian soldiers.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I think I see where the problem is. You seem to be conflating the term propaganda with false or lie. And here I was thinking you were enamored by the smell of your own farts and deeply offended by others because if you were really offended by propaganda you wouldn't post so much of it yourself.

Look up the term propaganda on that machine in front of you and try not to throw so many stones from that glass house you are in.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Let me know when there is a T62 confirmed on the battlefield.

The 200 series is a designation for Syria. Are you going to claim they brought tanks back from Syria that they shipped?

www.oryxspioenkop.com...

a reply to: Grimpachi


Is russia hiding behind a dictionary now?


Exactly which russian propaganda story do you think was truthful in any way?