Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

originally posted by: tiktokwarrior
Russians claim they blew up another Ukrainian S-300, possibly by using Iskander R-500 cruise missile.

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Funny that.

russia 'claims' to have destroyed more S300s than Ukraine ever had.

Are we supposed to believe this one when the 2 reported last week were russian lies?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Zalas are used extensively. These are hard to shoot down which is why they aren't in the news like Orlan is. Only two confirmed losses since war started.

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Footage of Ka-52 helicopters in Ukraine. These are not true attack helicopters like Mi-28 and AH-64 and Z-10 because it lacks separate EO for both pilot and WSO. It is more of a recon helicopter like OH-58 and Z-19.

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originally posted by: tiktokwarrior
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Zalas are used extensively. These are hard to shoot down which is why they aren't in the news like Orlan is. Only two confirmed losses since war started.

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I know.

So why does russia keep using orlans every day?

a reply to: Sthrndream

could Russia be at a bluff and having sims activated in a region to make it look like they are in one place when they arent ?

“If you are near the enemy, make him believe you are far from him.
If you are far from the enemy, make him believe you are now” Sun Tzu

hahah probably not because that would be pretty smart and based on their conflict progress so far id say they havent been smart at all.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u
Maybe for the same reason the Ukrainian 's used cheap drones to distract the defences of the Moskva.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Orlan has better endurance. 18 hours compared to Zala's 4 hours. And better comm range. 600 km compared to about 60 km. Also, Orlan is pretty cheap and is good at depleting MANPADS to makea attack drones and manned attack planes safer.

originally posted by: Scrable
a reply to: PatriotGames4u
Maybe for the same reason the Ukrainian 's used cheap drones to distract the defences of the Moskva.

Which drones do you think they used?

It wasn't a tiny drone like orlan, and russia didn't shoot it down.



Why does russia keep using orlans when they keep getting shot down every day?

originally posted by: tiktokwarrior
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Orlan has better endurance. 18 hours compared to Zala's 4 hours. And better comm range. 600 km compared to about 60 km. Also, Orlan is pretty cheap and is good at depleting MANPADS to makea attack drones and manned attack planes safer.

Ukraine is never gonna run out of manpads, so that obviously won't work.



The real reason is that russia had very few drones newer than orlan and doesn't have the ability to build any more.

So this situation isn't likely to change.

russia is losing the few newer drones they do have to newer defensive systems.

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Sthrndream

ha hah, probably not because that would be pretty smart and based on their conflict progress so far I'd say they haven't been smart at all.

Tends to happen when you surround yourself with glorified Yes Men.

Instead of qualified military experts that might just tell you, you are out of your mind.

The ones you've probably already had thrown in the gulag.

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
Once again, the sliding, distractions, and provocation on this thread inversely reflect the success, or lack thereof, of Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

XCathdra, your continuation of the original thread seems to have registered on someone's radar.

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Cheers

It certainly explains all the spam and fake accounts popping up lately. Speaking of which I would like to say Thank you to the mods for staying on top of that issue. Also a thanks to everyone who is participating in the debates etc in this thread (civilly), regardless on what side of the fence you support.

a reply to: imitator

can you provide a link as yo where the photos came from?

a reply to: Sthrndream

The latest estimate I have seen for Russia getting the east of Ukraine and the south of Ukraine, Russia would need an additional 600k troops to take and hold it.

The latest from villages / towns / cities in Russia, namely Belgorod, are claiming Ukraine is now shelling russian those places. Part of me thinks that while its possible, I think Russia is behind some of it. If Russia can demonstrate Ukraine is "attacking" russian cities, it would be easier for Putin to declare martial law and declare a war with Ukraine.

That type of play is right out of the Russian - Chechen war playbook.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Sthrndream

ha hah, probably not because that would be pretty smart and based on their conflict progress so far I'd say they haven't been smart at all.

Tends to happen when you surround yourself with glorified Yes Men.

Instead of qualified military experts that might just tell you, you are out of your mind.

The ones you've probably already had thrown in the gulag.

Just like Hitler and the 3rd Reich... Even Putin's accusations toward the military is exactly like Hitler's.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Wow. That's a big number. I suppose they could recruit locals to do that.

a reply to: imitator

ACK ACK!! ack akk akkkk kaaaak akkkk.

Thats how the propaganda sounds right now.
I smell a sock puppet...

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Ukraine's population has dropped to 35 million from 41 million at the start of the year. That's a big population drop.

More than six million refugees have fled Ukraine: UN agency