Russia Ukraine Update Thread

* - Clashes in Kharkiv city

* - Heavy clashes in Shishkovka, Kharkiv

* - Clashes at Hostomiel/Bucha

* - Russian KamAZ truck in Kharkiv

Its quickly becoming Russia VS NATO.

Might end up going Nuclear (threat wise) after all. Neither side can back down

Another thing we didn’t think about is Russia is the worlds number one exporter of copper and Aluminum in the world.


ustr.gov...

The top import categories (2-digit HS) in 2019 were: mineral fuels ($13 billion), precious metal and stone (platinum) ($2.2 billion), iron and steel ($1.4 billion), fertilizers ($963 million), and inorganic chemicals ($763 million).

I read that we depend highly on fertilizer from Russia as well. That isn’t good for all the crops we grow if that gets cut off.

a reply to: alphabetaone

originally posted by: Brassmonkey

It’s already $6.63 cents a gallon in downtown L.A.
Won’t take much to get it higher.

losangeles.cbslocal.com...

a reply to: alphabetaone

I wouldnt worry too much about gas. Whatever stress it causes will be short lived

originally posted by: Brassmonkey
Another thing we didn’t think about is Russia is the worlds number one exporter of copper and Aluminum in the world.


ustr.gov...

The top import categories (2-digit HS) in 2019 were: mineral fuels ($13 billion), precious metal and stone (platinum) ($2.2 billion), iron and steel ($1.4 billion), fertilizers ($963 million), and inorganic chemicals ($763 million).

I read that we depend highly on fertilizer from Russia as well. That isn’t good for all the crops we grow if that gets cut off.

a reply to: alphabetaone

Same as gas... dont worry about it.

originally posted by: agenda51
Might end up going Nuclear (threat wise) after all.

Already has.

Putin threatened "severe consequences unlike any ever seen" if countries "interfere" in the conflict with Ukraine and Russia.

French PM, I think it was, said something along the lines of Mr. Putin forgets that NATO has nuclear weapons too.

Cold War 2

originally posted by: agenda51
Its quickly becoming Russia VS NATO.

Might end up going Nuclear (threat wise) after all. Neither side can back down

It was ALWAYS up to putin.

Still is.

His choice.

a reply to: agenda51


We have plenty of everything.

It'll just cost more for a while.

Silly russians.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: agenda51
Its quickly becoming Russia VS NATO.

Might end up going Nuclear (threat wise) after all. Neither side can back down

It was ALWAYS up to putin.

Still is.

His choice.

Hardly....Lots of other factors at play. We will find out pretty quick I think. NATO sure as hell is not trying to de-escalate the situation. Quite the opposite. Russia has been prepping for this a long time and I dont see them backing down.

This will most likely be our Cuban Missle Crisis.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: agenda51


We have plenty of everything.

It'll just cost more for a while.

Silly russians.

I dont think you are getting it. You yourself dont really matter and are not that important. Neither am I. No individual civilian is.

* - Russian MLRS Grad fire from Nova Kahkovka Hydropower plant

* - Russia launched massive assault on Kharkiv city

* - Russian strike targeted Artsyz town

* - Video: Russian troops in Kharkiv

originally posted by: agenda51
Germany going to start sending weapons as well now.

Germany is violating it's own constitution by sending the weapons requested by Zelinsky that biden refused.

Barely.

American Made Javelins, previously purchased by Germany, loaded on American planes, at an American base, by German soldiers.

Then dropped into Ukraine along with what little biden did allow the U.S. to send, by Americans Air Crews.

Frog paint and all.




Germans:

"What?

We just gave them back to to the U.S.

Even loaded them on American planes.

We don't have any idea what the Americans did with all those Javelins"

Hilarious.




Someone is irrelevant.

a reply to: Xcathdra

It seems as if the Russians are set on taking Kharkiv

originally posted by: agenda51

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: agenda51
Its quickly becoming Russia VS NATO.

Might end up going Nuclear (threat wise) after all. Neither side can back down

It was ALWAYS up to putin.

Still is.

His choice.

Hardly....Lots of other factors at play. We will find out pretty quick I think. NATO sure as hell is not trying to de-escalate the situation. Quite the opposite. Russia has been prepping for this a long time and I dont see them backing down.

This will most likely be our Cuban Missle Crisis.

Take the blinders off.

NATO is doing an absolutely AMAZING at preventing escalation.

FAR better than anyone ever thought possible.




Nukes are entirely up to putin.

Same as always.

russians better hope he chooses wisely.

a reply to: agenda51

We buy $750 Million dollars of Ammonia Nitrate fertilizer from Russia. They control 48% of the market. Good luck planting corn later this year.

I don’t think most Americans are prepared to eat one meal a day or start intermittent fasting. If we can’t get our door dash fat ass fast food 3 times a day delivered to our door then there will be mass chaos

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: agenda51

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: agenda51
Its quickly becoming Russia VS NATO.

Might end up going Nuclear (threat wise) after all. Neither side can back down

It was ALWAYS up to putin.

Still is.

His choice.

Hardly....Lots of other factors at play. We will find out pretty quick I think. NATO sure as hell is not trying to de-escalate the situation. Quite the opposite. Russia has been prepping for this a long time and I dont see them backing down.

This will most likely be our Cuban Missle Crisis.

Take the blinders off.

NATO is doing an absolutely AMAZING at preventing escalation.

FAR better than anyone ever thought possible.




Nukes are entirely up to putin.

Same as always.

russians better hope he chooses wisely.

Oh...Ok then.

originally posted by: majesticgent
a reply to: Xcathdra

It seems as if the Russians are set on taking Kharkiv

The russians have failed to take even 1 major Ukraine city. They have not been meeting their day goals, which im sure is pissing putin off. They now had to commit over 55% of there units surrounding Ukraine to offensive action (up from 30%).

a reply to: Brassmonkey


We have FAR more Fertilizer here than we need.

And we can handle the extra cost for a while without breaking a sweat.

Have you seen what our own president did to us this year?

Yiu russians are gonna have a hard time hurting our economy any more than he did.

Do your worst.

Won't even tickle.

* - Russian conscripts reportedly forced to sign military contracts, losing contact with family

Putin is once again all about the hearts and minds...

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

I wonder if Germany will finally allow Lithuania to deliver the ex-East German army 122-mm howitzers to Ukraine now.

Their wake-up has been painfully slow at the cost of Ukrainian lives.

I hear Putin is not happy with the Russian military. What was expected as a walk in the park turned into Russia grabbing a badger named Ukraine.

Cheers