Russia Ukraine Update Thread

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

NATO already expanded enough in Eastern Europe for the past few decades. Would you prefer if they just isolate and blockade Russia from ever entering the middle east as well to?


You seem young to understand the whole topics of these complex issues.

russia is being rapidly isolated from the rest of the planet, with the possible exception of china.

Including the Middle East.

EXACTLY as I predicted.



I was 'young' the last time russia suddenly collapsed.

Not this time.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: vNex92


To keep russians from invading again.

Duh.

What the EU is doing is no different from the Roman Empire nor Germany.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: agenda51

The videos from the Ukraine border say you are wrong.
The refugees who made it out of Ukraine say you are wrong.
The residents who chose to voluntarily stay and fight say you are wrong.

ok then...

I call 'duck'.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: agenda51

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: agenda51

NATO existence should have ended with the fall and collapse of USSR that is correct, what is the point of NATO existence in today's society?

Cant wait to see what happens to all the orphaned children.

Sick.

Your mom must be so proud.

Didnt say I like it (you must be new to this stuff). Quite the opposite. I find it disgusting. I have also seen it so much I have gotten a little numb to it all.

Go ahead and keep cheering on this potential slaughter if it makes you feel good though. Nothing like promoting mass death of civilians and destruction of families. Some believe it to be patriotic.

originally posted by:

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to:


To keep russians from invading again.

Duh.

What russia is doing is no different from the Roman Empire nor Germany.

Correct.

Shameful.

a reply to: Xcathdra

deranged leader who is stuck in the 1980's
You mean like the Liberal polticans who are obsessed with Russia by claiming that Russia their election? or when Mitt Romney ran for WH?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by:

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to:


To keep russians from invading again.

Duh.

What russia is doing is no different from the Roman Empire nor Germany.

Correct.

Shameful.

How many bases does Russia have in Europe?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Xcathdra

deranged leader who is stuck in the 1980's
You mean like the Liberal polticans who are obsessed with Russia by claiming that Russia their election? or when Mitt Romney ran for WH?

Yes.

Except far more violent.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

To keep russians from invading again.

.....or other unprovoked military action/invasion from a rogue nation against a member state.

Just for clarity

a reply to: vNex92

no I mean Putin.

originally posted by: vNex92

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by:

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to:


To keep russians from invading again.

Duh.

What russia is doing is no different from the Roman Empire nor Germany.

Correct.

Shameful.

How many bases does Russia have in Europe?

How much territory does russia have in Europe?

Same answer.

originally posted by: majesticgent
Lithuanian military aid arrives in Ukraine.

China can counter that by supplying HJ-12 anti tank missiles to Russia.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Would you prefer to see NATO marching down in Moscow? dont answer that i know you do. Because Russia doesn't much expect Belarus...

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

To keep russians from invading again.

.....or other unprovoked military action/invasion from a rogue nation against a member state.

Just for clarity

Nope.

Just to keep russia from invading again.

Only reason NATO ever existed, and that hasn't changed.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Just to keep russia from invading again.
The Romans tried something similar and so did empires before they started collapsing..

Only reason NATO ever existed, and that hasn't changed.

Of course and you dont think Russia doesn't know? NATO will be a threat to China.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Would you prefer to see NATO marching down in Moscow? dont answer that i know you do.

Why would NATO want to invade russia?

They don't.

I don't.

Neither has ever threatened to do so.



Sounding pretty desperate now.

Are all your russian web sites down for some reason right now?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

To keep russians from invading again.

.....or other unprovoked military action/invasion from a rogue nation against a member state.

Just for clarity

Nope.

Just to keep russia from invading again.

Only reason NATO ever existed, and that hasn't changed.

Nope.

Formed in 1949 with the signing of the Washington Treaty, NATO is a security alliance of 30 countries from North America and Europe. NATO’s fundamental goal is to safeguard the Allies’ freedom and security by political and military means. NATO remains the principal security instrument of the transatlantic community and expression of its common democratic values. It is the practical means through which the security of North America and Europe are permanently tied together. NATO enlargement has furthered the U.S. goal of a Europe whole, free, and at peace.

Article 5 of the Washington Treaty — that an attack against one Ally is an attack against all — is at the core of the Alliance, a promise of collective defense. Article 4 of the treaty ensures consultations among Allies on security matters of common interest, which have expanded from a narrowly defined Soviet threat to the critical mission in Afghanistan, as well as peacekeeping in Kosovo and new threats to security such as cyber attacks, and global threats such as terrorism and piracy that affect the Alliance and its global network of partners.

In addition to its traditional role in the territorial defense of Allied nations, NATO leads the UN-mandated International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan and has ongoing missions in the Balkans and the Mediterranean; it also conducts extensive training exercises and offers security support to partners around the globe, including the European Union in particular but also the United Nations and the African Union.

RIF

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Why would NATO want to invade russia?

Because you said.

Just to keep russia from invading again.

You Want and prefer that NATO takes over all Eastern Europe, Belarus included.
You know that is not going to happen in reality.

Blockading Russia will hurt Europe more,LNG will be expensive.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

To keep russians from invading again.

.....or other unprovoked military action/invasion from a rogue nation against a member state.

Just for clarity

Nope.

Just to keep russia from invading again.

Only reason NATO ever existed, and that hasn't changed.

They/Them never give up power once they have taken it. NATO was never going to disband. This whole situation was just a matter of time. They sure as hell are not going to de-escalate either. Trump kept it at bay for four years but Putin knew it was coming eventually.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

To keep russians from invading again.

.....or other unprovoked military action/invasion from a rogue nation against a member state.

Just for clarity

Nope.

Just to keep russia from invading again.

Only reason NATO ever existed, and that hasn't changed.

Nope.

Formed in 1949 with the signing of the Washington Treaty, NATO is a security alliance of 30 countries from North America and Europe. NATO’s fundamental goal is to safeguard the Allies’ freedom and security by political and military means. NATO remains the principal security instrument of the transatlantic community and expression of its common democratic values. It is the practical means through which the security of North America and Europe are permanently tied together. NATO enlargement has furthered the U.S. goal of a Europe whole, free, and at peace.

Article 5 of the Washington Treaty — that an attack against one Ally is an attack against all — is at the core of the Alliance, a promise of collective defense. Article 4 of the treaty ensures consultations among Allies on security matters of common interest, which have expanded from a narrowly defined Soviet threat to the critical mission in Afghanistan, as well as peacekeeping in Kosovo and new threats to security such as cyber attacks, and global threats such as terrorism and piracy that affect the Alliance and its global network of partners.

In addition to its traditional role in the territorial defense of Allied nations, NATO leads the UN-mandated International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan and has ongoing missions in the Balkans and the Mediterranean; it also conducts extensive training exercises and offers security support to partners around the globe, including the European Union in particular but also the United Nations and the African Union.

RIF

Try reading that again.

Keeping in mind who this unspecified country is that's being discussed as needing defense from.

Duh.