Russia Ukraine Update Thread

originally posted by: YongpengSuen
Right now Ukraine has advantage in anti tank missiles with their Javelin against Russia's Kornet. We need to see HJ-12 in this war. HJ-12 is said to be at least as good as Javelin.

You are so off base about the comparison that it isn't even worth discussing. They aren't even the same type of weapon anymore.


But that really doesn't matter in the slightest.

Ukraine is not presenting any such targets to the enemy.

They are less than useless against the tactics russia is facing.

Russia has all the time in the world. The Dnipro river cuts Ukraine in half. Blow up every bridge on it and the connection between west Ukraine and east Ukraine is severed by Dnipro river. Without bridge, Ukrainian army cannot cross into eastern Ukraine.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Like handing woman and children machine guns?
cmon
Ukraine is solid but not avenger level powerful
Russia has the upper hand in pretty much all areas, except home-front
i'm not chearleading for anyone
i want this to stop asap, esp when i hear NATO *ick wagging
and the increasing potential for mistakes.

a reply to: YongpengSuen

You might want to educate yourself on the military, how the work and what items they have before thinking blowing up bridges will cut the country in half.

Krasnopol was heavily used in Syria war. Reduces civilian deaths.

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Zelensky appeals for direct talks with Putin:
In a new video message on Friday, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky again called for direct talks with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.
www.cnn.com...

Zelinsky called for direct talks after REPEATEDLY refusing the mediated surrender talks that putin is demanding.

Then called for more international assistance and more severe sanctions.

Putin is refusing direct talks cause he has feelz about the spanking his forces are taking, and he knows Zekinsky has zero interest in surrendering.

Zelinsky is also insisting that any such direct talks be held in Kiev, and Putin wouldn't dare go there after what he just did



Also, every single country on the planet has refused russia's request to act as mediator.

Israel accepted for a couple hours, until suddenly canceling after a single phone call from Zelinsky.

ccp has so far refused as a result of russia allowing us to steal top secret chinese communications that we are slapping ccp's face with in the press almost hourly, but russia is practically begging ccp now, so that could change soon.

I doubt Zelinsky will ever agree to ccp mediation.

Why would he?

a reply to: Xcathdra

Russia wants eastern Ukraine which used to be part of Russia before Soviet times.

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Like handing woman and children machine guns?
cmon
Ukraine is solid but not avenger level powerful
Russia has the upper hand in pretty much all areas, except home-front
i'm not chearleading for anyone
i want this to stop asap, esp when i hear NATO *ick wagging
and the increasing potential for mistakes.

Well trained women and teens.

They've been preparing since russia first invaded in 2014.

Two of those teens destroyed an entire russian armored column all on their own, then proceeded to chase the russian survivors through a forest as they were walking back to Russia.

Well done lads!



You were saying?

originally posted by: YongpengSuen
a reply to: Xcathdra

Russia wants eastern Ukraine which used to be part of Russia before Soviet times.

Duh.

Finally realizing that we were ALWAYS right on this?

Gonna retract your absurd claims and apologize now?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

i know
its a shot gun meeting and its wrong
but Russia is in the process of encircling kiev
We either witness a total slaughter of all sides or a cease-fire

originally posted by: YongpengSuen
Russia has all the time in the world.

That's the impression I'm getting too. Over the past 5 years, Vladimir has been planning and waiting.

The media wants a lot of huge explosions, but Putin isn't trying to make a TV-friendly scene. He wants Ukraine to remain mostly as it is, it seems.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

This was announced 9 hours ago by Poland -

Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak: The convoy with the ammunition that we hand over to Ukraine has already reached our neighbors. We support Ukrainians, we stand in solidarity and we firmly oppose Russian aggression

So I wonder if Putin's threat of consequences unlike none ever seen will be carried out now?

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

i know
its a shot gun meeting and its wrong
but Russia is in the process of encircling kiev
This is not a movie
We either witness a total slaughter of all sides or a cease-fire

I understand.

It's been clear that this is russia's strategy from the start.

Also very clear that Ukraine was aware, and has planned for this.

And is willing to absorb whatever russia throws at them, at any cost short of surrender.


Unfortunately, it's even more clear that neither side has any intention to stop.

Ukraine cause it's their country.

Putin cause he wants to steal their country, and is both furious and embarrassed about the spanking his forces are taking.

I don't have any clue how this works out yet.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: YongpengSuen
Russia has all the time in the world.

That's the impression I'm getting too. Over the past 5 years, Vladimir has been planning and waiting.

The media wants a lot of huge explosions, but Putin isn't trying to make a TV-friendly scene. He wants Ukraine to remain mostly as it is, it seems.

it would seem putin wants the land and doesnt care if the people stay or go but they must surrender. Additionally, people need to put the brakes on and realize you cannot trust anything coming from the media, twitter anything.. on one side you have the western media who have been running a psy op for decades and on the other you have a life long soviet spy who who also has been running the same thing. Trust nothing

originally posted by: majesticgent

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

This was announced 9 hours ago by Poland -

Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak: The convoy with the ammunition that we hand over to Ukraine has already reached our neighbors. We support Ukrainians, we stand in solidarity and we firmly oppose Russian aggression

So I wonder if Putin's threat of consequences unlike none ever seen will be carried out now?

No.

He was bluffing.

Is perfectly aware that he no longer has any such ability.

And that russia would cease to exist, forever.

originally posted by: YongpengSuen
a reply to: Xcathdra

Russia wants eastern Ukraine which used to be part of Russia before Soviet times.

Well Putin can want in one hand and crap in the other and see which fills up faster.

Is Russia prepared to surrender Königsberg then? How about the Kuril Islands?

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

i know
its a shot gun meeting and its wrong
but Russia is in the process of encircling kiev
This is not a movie
We either witness a total slaughter of all sides or a cease-fire

Slaughter is incoming.

Nothing short of American forces or putin assassination can prevent that right now.

Both are currently impossible.

So slaughter is incoming.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Kuril islands are heavily defended by the powerful Chinese military. Kaliningrad has nukes for defense.

originally posted by: majesticgent

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

This was announced 9 hours ago by Poland -

Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak: The convoy with the ammunition that we hand over to Ukraine has already reached our neighbors. We support Ukrainians, we stand in solidarity and we firmly oppose Russian aggression

So I wonder if Putin's threat of consequences unlike none ever seen will be carried out now?

It was Putins ill conceived comments that "NATO crossed a red line and collision is imminent" that triggered article 4 for NATO.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
He was bluffing.

I thought the exact same back in December through January. I hope that was truly a bluff this time around.