Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: majesticgent



Pictured at the Russian embassy in Prague one month after Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Putin didn't wait 5 years, he started invading in Ukraine in 2014. What are you talking about?

He started in 2014, then paused until 2022.

The very first opportunity after waiting 5+ years for biden.

So he stopped occupying and killing from 2014 until 2022?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Putin didn't wait 5 years, he started invading in Ukraine in 2014. What are you talking about?

He started in 2014, then paused until 2022.

The very first opportunity after waiting 5+ years for biden.

Can imagine if this happened under Trump?

The democrats/mainstream media etc would be completely on Trump about it. Instead of the actual Ukraine situation lol.

Then you would truly see how much they really care about Ukraine or the people there lol

One of the main reasons why I (and many others) don’t trust/support any of this with Biden/democrats at the wheel.



Putin probably thought too it would be bad under Trump. And Trump would be in a corner and might of acted further.

In return, talks, indications or any Ukraine/NATO talks getting stirred up was put back a bit.

But just like Russia, there’s obvious indications the Trump/Biden election was brutal and more than likely tampered and heavily no holds bar influenced.

Racial riots. Pandemic, women rights (lol insert Hillary Clinton, Elisabeth Warren here etc etc) everything under the sun including the kitchen sink was gas lighted and stirred up to get him ousted at all costs lol.

Biden in Poland stuttering like he’s FDR was completely cringe worthy.


like right now with the 94th Academy award Oscars lol

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Putin didn't wait 5 years, he started invading in Ukraine in 2014. What are you talking about?

He started in 2014, then paused until 2022.

The very first opportunity after waiting 5+ years for biden.

So he stopped occupying and killing from 2014 until 2022?

Don't play dumb.

He didn't try to invade the rest of Ukraine, or really even make much noise in dombas and crimea.

He was still supporting his forces where they were.

Until March of 2021, when he began assembling forces for this current invasion.

We see these stories from Ukraine every day. Have you ever seen a typical day of crime news in the different USA cities? It's much worse. I know the circumstances are different, but we have 24/7, 365 days a year civil war right here.

originally posted by: wordforword
Does anyone know if these arrived already to Ukraine? Getting mixed reports.

I've seen the same reports, including of one being used successfully in Ukraine (that one was a Switchblade 300).

My best (semi informed) guess is that a small number were received almost immediately, but either the large shipment hasn't arrived yet or they are still training on them. There just isn't any evidence that more than a handful have been used in theater yet.

a reply to: realitypop

World is somewhat larger and more complex than America and her crime statistics all the same.

And the fact of the matter is plenty of other supposed first world nations on Earth manage to get through the day without such atrocities being committed.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Starstreak is a complex weapons system and requires special training to learn how to use them and be effective. This means they have to send people to Ukraine to train them or have Ukrainians come to them to train, then go back to train others. That all takes time.

It would be like if they gave them M1 tanks. They could probably figure out how to run them on their own but they would be easy target practice for the enemy more than a threat to the enemy.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Starstreak is a complex weapons system and requires special training to learn how to use them and be effective. This means they have to send people to Ukraine to train them or have Ukrainians come to them to train, then go back to train others. That all takes time.

It would be like if they gave them M1 tanks. They could probably figure out how to run them on their own but they would be easy target practice for the enemy more than a threat to the enemy.

Understood, this is why I think we are seeing conflicting reports, some saying not deployed yet, and a few with footage of use in Western Ukraine.

It appears that if the large shipments have arrived, Ukraine is still in the training phase, which is completely understandable.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Putin didn't wait 5 years, he started invading in Ukraine in 2014. What are you talking about?

He started in 2014, then paused until 2022.

The very first opportunity after waiting 5+ years for biden.

So he stopped occupying and killing from 2014 until 2022?

Don't play dumb.

He didn't try to invade the rest of Ukraine, or really even make much noise in dombas and crimea.

He was still supporting his forces where they were.

Until March of 2021, when he began assembling forces for this current invasion.

That's kinda funny though. I feel as though the families of the dead soldiers over 8 years would feel otherwise.

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Putin didn't wait 5 years, he started invading in Ukraine in 2014. What are you talking about?

He started in 2014, then paused until 2022.

The very first opportunity after waiting 5+ years for biden.

So he stopped occupying and killing from 2014 until 2022?

Don't play dumb.

He didn't try to invade the rest of Ukraine, or really even make much noise in dombas and crimea.

He was still supporting his forces where they were.

Until March of 2021, when he began assembling forces for this current invasion.

That kinda funny though. I feel as though the families of the dead soldiers over 8 years would feel otherwise.

The subject was the pause in the invasion for 5+ years.

I really don't care what families of dead russian invaders feel, I mean it's a shame that they have to experience a loss, but their loved ones were used to invade a peaceful neighbor and are fair game for killing.

Only putin decided to invade Ukraine, then and now, and only putin can decide when it's time for Ukraine to stop killing russian invaders.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: majesticgent

Pictured at the Russian embassy in Prague one month after Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

What a nice looking group of people there lol. Is that real blood or fake?

Will PITA care if it’s animal blood being used to prop their opinion on this one? Or will it be pointless as it’ll get washed under the war drumming?

Either way, I bet those people are cheering for themselves for any recognition they get in the photo that’s circulating, instead of really caring about the civilians getting caught in the crosshairs of the elite game.

It’s like looting in U.S here not long ago. Only Peaceful protests.

* - Advisor to the office of President of Ukraine: Again total missile strikes at Ukraine. Lutsk, Kharkiv, Zhytomyr, Rivne. Every day more and more rockets. Mariupol under carpet bombing. Russia no longer has a language, humanism, civilization. Only rockets, bombs and attempts to wipe Ukraine off the face of the earth. Does Europe really like it?

* - Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine: Ukraine demands from UNSC to impose demilitarisation zone at Chornobyl NPP, deploy UN special mission there to avoid another Chornobyl nuclear disaster

* - Five adults and two children killed in shelling in Kharkiv region in last 24 hours

* - Mayor of Slavutich: Russian troops as for now left the city

* - Authorities in Lutsk confirms missile strikes at oil depot. More explosion were heard, possible secondary

* - Explosions were heard in the vicinity of the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv

* - Explosion reported in Lutsk, mayor asks citizens to stay in shelters

* - Shelling with MLRS GRAD reported in Mariupol

* - Destroyed car found on the road between Husarivka and Shevelivka villages in Kharkiv region. Bodies of 3 members of family extracted, including 3y.o. child

* - Many explosions in Kharkiv

* - Turkish President Erdogan had a phone conversation with Putin. In a call, the latest situation and negotiation processes in the Russia-Ukraine war were discussed.

* - Russian troops kidnapped 7 members of city council in Snovsk of Chernihiv region

* - Shelling with 152mm artillery and MLRS targeting Avdiivka

* - Turkish President Erdogan and Putin agreed to hold the next meeting of the negotiating delegations of Russia and Ukraine in Istanbul

* - Child killed in Borivske in Luhansk region, another wounded as result of Russian army shelling

* - Zelensky: We will not continue talks with Russia if it continues to demand our disarmament

* - Since Russia invaded Ukraine, the @AP has independently documented at least 34 assaults in which Russian forces attacked Ukrainian medical facilities, striking at ambulances, medics and hospitals that still have patients

* - Clashes continue in Irpin', Ukrainian army repelled attacks by Russian troops, making some gains in counter-attack

* - Missile launches from Donetsk area

* - Ukraine's negotiator says next round of talks with Russia will take place between March 28 and 30 in Turkey

* - Russian army shelled settlement in Kryvyi Rih district with MLRS Tornado-S with cluster ammunition

* - Russian occupation troops switched off Ukrainian cellular networks on the coast of Azov Sea

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

a reply to: Grimpachi

Western specialists are operating these weapon systems inside Ukraine
NATO members are very much directly involved

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: Grimpachi

Western specialists are operating these weapon systems inside Ukraine
NATO is very much directly involved

Have any evidence for that or just a conspiracy theory?

* - The Russian military kidnapped another resident of the Holoprystan community - Mayor Babich

* - "This must not be a humanitarian operation in the hands of Russia" stressed this morning President Macron on the humanitarian operation currently planned by France, Greece and Turkey for Mariupol. "There is an international humanitarian law that we intend to enforce"

* - Spokesman for the Turkish presidency: It is difficult to predict the next Russian position and whether they will negotiate a ceasefire

* - "Israel stands firm with the people of Ukraine and is going to continue our effort to help reduce the suffering," Israeli PM Naftali Bennett said today in a joint presser with Blinken, adding that Israel had sent "top medical teams" to set up a field hospital in western Ukraine

* - Macron warns against verbal 'escalation' with Moscow after Biden labels Putin a 'butcher' over Ukraine

* - A column of Russian T-72B3 tanks operating in Mariupol

* - Rally against Russian occupation in Kakhovka

* - Rally against Russian occupation in Kherson

* - Residents of Nova Kakhovka went for the peacefully protest. "March 27. Kakhovka is Ukraine"

* - Russian military shelled Krasnohorivka near Donetsk with MLRS Tornado-S with cluster ammunition

* - Russian troops continue to shell Sievierodonetsk, Lysychansk and Rubizhne in Luhansk region

* - Ukrainian Prosecutor General: 139 children have been killed since the start of the Russian war against Ukraine

* - Moscow: Russian cruise missiles destroyed a fuel depot near the city of Lviv

* - Russian forces in Izyum town, possible Wagner PMC

* - Ukraine's Luhansk administration: 11 homes were destroyed in Russian forces' shelling with mortars on Popasnaya, in the east of the country

* - Ukraine's Interior Ministry adviser says Russia has started destroying fuel and food storage depots, so the government will have to disperse the stocks of both in the future. He adds that Russia brings forces to the border on rotation, could try to advance in its invasion

* - Ukrainian army cleared Husarivka in Kharkiv region from Russian troops, many equipment destroyed

* - Britain: Russian forces are trying to encircle the Ukrainian forces in the vicinity of the Donbass region

* - 7 attacks were repulsed in Donetsk and Luhansk directions, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Russia lost 8 tanks, 8 armored vehicles, 3 vehicles and one mortar.

* - Kyiv(03:42). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
* - Zhytomyrska Oblast(00:40). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
* - Kyiv Oblast(00:29). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!
* - Kyiv(00:12). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

* - Ukraine Seeks to Exploit Shift in Russia's Military Strategy

KYIV, Ukraine—Ukrainian forces are seeking to roll back Russian gains as Moscow shifts its focus to controlling a swath of the country’s south and east.

Ukrainian forces said Sunday they drove Russian troops out of Trostyanets, in the northeast near the Russian border, potentially opening a road to the provincial capital of Sumy, which is encircled by the Russians.

Western officials see signs that Russia is consolidating its position to regain the offensive, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky urged the West to provide his army with the heavier weapons it needs to fight the better-armed Russian military.

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* - Ukrainian ambassador on regime change: It will be difficult to run a state from the Hague (Putin)
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* - Germany mulls buying missile defense system to defend against Russia

German chancellor Olaf Scholz said on Sunday the country is considering purchasing a missile defense system to defend itself from a possible Russian airstrike, Reuters reported.

Scholz told German media outlet ARD on Sunday about the potential purchase of a defense system similar to Israeli's Iron Dome.

"This is certainly one of the issues we are discussing, and for good reason," Scholz told ARD.

"We need to be aware that we have a neighbor who is prepared to use violence to enforce their interests."

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* - The Ukrainians Are Killing A Lot Of Russian Generals. It Won’t Help To End The War.

he Russian force in Ukraine probably includes two dozen generals who act as commanders and deputy commanders for the dozen or so combined-arms and tank armies the Kremlin has committed to the war.

In a month of bitter fighting, the Ukrainians have killed at least seven of those generals, along with an equal number of senior colonels. It’s a startling death toll — like something out of World War II. And it probably has resulted in days-long disruptions to the operations of front-line armies.

But killing Russian generals with snipers, artillery and drones alone won’t end the war, even if the Ukrainians keep killing them at the current rate for months. That’s because eliminating senior leaders almost never actually cripples an army, insurgency or cartel. There always are junior leaders who are eager to replace their late forebears.

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* - Ukraine says Russia is trying to split the country in two

Russia intends to split Ukraine into two nations, similar to North and South Korea, Ukraine's military intelligence chief said on Sunday.

A local leader in the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic in Ukraine said on Sunday the region could soon hold a vote on joining Russia. Kyrylo Budanov, the head of Ukrainian military intelligence, said in a statement the vote is "an attempt to create North and South Korea in Ukraine" and predicted the Ukrainian army will push back against Russian forces, according to Reuters.

"In addition, the season of a total Ukrainian guerrilla safari will soon begin," Budanov said. "Then there will be one relevant scenario left for the Russians, how to survive."

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* - Bra zilians join fight in far-away Ukraine

Wearing a camouflage T-shirt that clings to his biceps, Brazilian policeman Saulo packs his bag with combat boots, camping gear, gun holsters and a knife -- "just the essential" to go fight in Ukraine. The 35-year-old Sao Paulo man quit his job as a military police officer to travel more than 11,000 kilometers (nearly 7,000 miles) and join Ukraine's fight against the Russian invasion.

"I identify with the cause, with the Ukrainian people who are suffering the injustice of a foreign aggressor," said Saulo, who asked that his last name not be used for security reasons.

"And I want to help avoid World War III," he told AFP, laying the items on his short packing list out on his bed alongside his black duffel bag.

Picking up a small Brazilian flag, he added it to the pile.

Although President Jair Bolsonaro has said Brazil will remain "neutral" over the conflict -- drawing criticism in some quarters -- hundreds of Brazilians have taken steps to go fight in Ukraine.

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a reply to: PatriotGames4u


Unless they are flying them out for lessons..
It takes 1,000 successful hits in a simulator before a soldier is typically qualified to fire a live missile
The foreign legion is no secret
western instructors are on the ground actively using these systems.