Russia Ukraine Update Thread

Its stil about the rona. Since when do Poland makd ukrainean passports? When the arabs came a few years ago, doctors wasnt alloud to look at bio signs of age, no ukraimeans must have id for when they will be teicked to have the clot shot.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Ebergberg

They are not requiring ID to cross the border into poland. They are required to get ID however if they wish to move to other countries. So they are setting up operations in poland to assist in getting ID for refuges who want to move to another country.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: andy06shake

Smoke signals might be more up there alley with the number of burning Tanks, APC, and Artillery pieces they have all over the place.

It is hard to trust just about anything these days coming from either side, but it seems both sides to some degree are suggesting over 10,000 Russian soldiers have been killed, and 1500+ tanks have been destroyed. It also seems that Ukraine has move on the offence too in taking back some towns, so who knows where all this is going.

10,000 is a lot. The Civil War lasted 4 years and 27 days and there was an estimate of 620,00 fatalities. That is 416 KIA a day. This war at 26 days so far that would be 384 a day. Some estimate it's high as 500 a day. And that's just official Russian figures. It doesn't include Ukrainian fatalities, or black ops etc. This is an extremely brutal bloody war so far.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

The expansion thing isn't possible. There is no way Russia can afford to be an occupying force. If Poland enters though it could turn Ukraine into another east west type of thing like Germany was. Because the west is very friendly with Russia with a lot of people that Russian is the primary language. They are not happy with the government's move to ban speaking Russian. There is just so much going on there that I have learned there is no way for me to cover it all.

They actually didn't ban Russian, they just established an official language that wasn't Russian as they work to move away from Russia. We also need to understand we are talking about 10% or less of the population that is in this "I'm Russian more than I'm an Ukrainian" mentality and that means 40+ million think they are Ukrainian.

originally posted by: randomuser

10,000 is a lot. The Civil War lasted 4 years and 27 days and there was an estimate of 620,00 fatalities. That is 416 KIA a day. This war at 26 days so far that would be 384 a day. Some estimate it's high as 500 a day. And that's just official Russian figures. It doesn't include Ukrainian fatalities, or black ops etc. This is an extremely brutal bloody war so far.

Also seems Putin has upped his game of bombing whole civilian cities and not just military targets, and that isn't going well with other nations watching.

* - Dnipro(23:34). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Security Council rejects Russian draft resolution on humanitarian situation in Ukraine

* - Due to the mass attack on communication providers, Ukrzaliznytsia's online ticket sales and telephony services are currently temporarily unavailable

* - Cherkaska Oblast(21:59). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Zhytomyr, Izyum(21:59). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Russian army shelled Bakhmut in Donetsk region

* - A senior Pentagon official: Ukrainian forces forced the Russian army to retreat 55 km to the east of Kyiv

* - A senior Pentagon official: Russian forces have halted their advance northwest of Kyiv and are fortifying their positions

* - Kyiv(21:50). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - 2941 person from Mariupol were evacuated from Berdyansk to Zaporizhiye today

* - Kharkivska Oblast, Vinnytska Oblast(21:45). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Ammonia leak in Chernihiv after Russian army shelled food enterprise, concentration in the air is within the permissible level - Head of Chernihiv regional administration

* - IAEA: Firefighters were trying to extinguish wildfires near Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant, Ukraine told the IAEA. Slight increases in caesium air rallys detected in Kyiv and at two nuclear power plants, but they did not pose significant radiological concerns, it said

* - Ukrainian Air Defense shot down Russian cruise missile over Kharkiv

* - An independent Russian journalist Oksana Baulina has been killed by Russian shelling while covering the war in Kyiv

* - The US government has formally declared that members of the Russian armed forces have committed war crimes in Ukraine, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement Wednesday(US government statement)

* - 1143 buildings in Kharkiv have been destroyed by Russian troops, 998 of them are residential buildings, - Kharkiv Mayor Ihor Terekhov

* - President @AndrzejDuda: The current situation requires the permanent presence of NATO on the flank. This will be one of our postulates at the NATO summit

* - Russian army shelled the parking lot of the shopping center: one person was killed and two were injured

* - DPA: The German Defense Minister submitted a request to the Federal Security Council to supply 2,000 anti-tank missiles to Ukraine

* - Minister of Defense of Ukraine:Lithuania and the whole Lithuanian people stand with Ukraine. Not just in words. @a_anusauskas is the first foreign defence minister unafraid to come to Ukraine in person since February 24. Who's next?

* - European Union spokesman: Sanctions are not the only way to stop Putin's war, we support Ukraine militarily

* - Sweden will send another 5,000 anti-tank weapons to Ukraine, Minister of Defense tells national news agency TT

* - Japan PM Fumio Kishida said that he has renewed his commitment to Ukraine following an address by Volodymyr Zelensky to the Japanese parliament

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

Can we talk about Chubais:

Chubais was a powerful figure in the early 1990s, the architect of Russia’s controversial privatization drive and its transition to a market economy. He famously brought Putin into the Kremlin, giving him his first job in Moscow, and had managed to stay in favor through more than two decades of Putin’s rule as many other leading figures from the Boris Yeltsin era were pushed out.

The Moscow Times

Putin Aide Chubais Quits Kremlin, Leaves Russia

The Kremlin’s climate envoy and veteran reformer Anatoly Chubais has quit his position and left Russia over his opposition to the war in Ukraine, Bloomberg reported Wednesday.

The bombshell departure, according to two unnamed insiders cited by Bloomberg, makes Chubais the highest-profile figure to break with President Vladimir Putin over his decision to invade Ukraine.
Chubais is in Turkey and doesn't plan to return to Russia, two sources close to him told the RBC news website.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov confirmed later Wednesday that Chubais had resigned from his post, but didn't specify why.

The rats bailing already. Big time. Very interesting development.

originally posted by: ISeekTruth101

I personally dont know anything the US has im defense.

Military analysts concurr, the US as far they know dont have anything.

I presume your best guess is the SM-6 which I bet money on wont be enough.

Do the USA have something else? Possibly, but lets face it. Aircraft carriers have become obselete for a while since the advent of supersonic missiles especially the ones have Russia have been producing to combat their own lack of Navy presence. Assymetric warfare, US invest 10s of billions into carrier strike groups. Russia spend millions on missile technology to counter.

Forget the Zircon, how would a US carrier group combat salvos of Mach3/4 antiship missiles? That was an issue before hypersonics.

It is pretty common that anything we the public find out about is 15+ years older technology to what we do not know.

* - Israeli Prime Minister Bennett spoke with Russian President Putin, the Kremlin said

* - Russian army shelled Ocheretyne railway station in Donetsk region

* - The meeting of President @AndrzejDuda with the government has started at National Security Bureau before tomorrow's NATO Summit

* - Emergency situation regime introduced in two villages of the Bilhorod region due to a shell explosion

* - Geolocation of Bastion-P (P-800 Oniks / SS-N-26 STROBILE) supersonic missiles launched today against ground targets in Ukraine

* - NATO worries China could support Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the head of the Western military alliance said on Wednesday, adding the 30 member nations will discuss Beijing's role in the war Moscow is waging on its neighbour in Brussels on Thursday

* - The Kremlin: Putin and Scholz discussed the Russian-Ukrainian negotiations by phone

* - EU ambassadors today approved the additional 500 million euro for Ukraine to buy weapons. written procedure ends at 17.00

* - "Russia must stop its nuclear saber rattlings. It is dangerous & it is irresponsible" per @NATO's @jensstoltenberg. “Nuclear war cannot be won & shud never be fought"

* - "Any use of chemical weapons would totally change the nature of the conflict" in Ukraine and "have far-reaching consequences" per @NATO's @jensstoltenberg

* - NATO Secretary General: The NATO summit is being held at a critical time for our security

* - British Ministry of Defense: We are calling on YouTube to help us support Ukraine by taking down videos doctored by the Russian state and disseminated to try and sap the morale of a people fighting for their freedom

* - Belarusian Foreign Ministry: The Ukrainian embassy will continue to work in our country with the presence of the ambassador and 4 employees

* - "I think it's a real threat" - @POTUS on Russian threat of chemical warfare. Ukraine Via pooler @GregClugstonDC

* - Germany says further supplies of Strela missiles are on their way to Ukraine following delays. The missiles had been in the inventories of the former Communist East German army

* - Anatoly Chubais, who gave Putin his first Kremlin job, stepped down as Russia's climate envoy and has left the country over Putin's war in Ukraine

* - Big rally pro-Ukrainian in Enerhodar

* - Bucha city council says that Russian military in Bucha, Irpen' Hostomiel are surrounded

* - Ukrainian negotiating delegation: Ongoing talks with Russia are difficult

* - Poland expels 45 Russian diplomats for espionage: official

* - The Russian ambassador confirmed the note from the Polish Foreign Ministry demanding the expulsion of 45 diplomats on charges of espionage

* - Russia will respond if Poland expels Russian diplomats: Russian Foreign Ministry

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

There's a new map of positions around Kyiv that shows Russians troops are losing ground.
Here's the link;
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: ISeekTruth101

I personally dont know anything the US has im defense.

Military analysts concurr, the US as far they know dont have anything.

I presume your best guess is the SM-6 which I bet money on wont be enough.

Do the USA have something else? Possibly, but lets face it. Aircraft carriers have become obselete for a while since the advent of supersonic missiles especially the ones have Russia have been producing to combat their own lack of Navy presence. Assymetric warfare, US invest 10s of billions into carrier strike groups. Russia spend millions on missile technology to counter.

Forget the Zircon, how would a US carrier group combat salvos of Mach3/4 antiship missiles? That was an issue before hypersonics.

It is pretty common that anything we the public find out about is 15+ years older technology to what we do not know.

Fair play, then Jon Hill, head of the Missile Defence Agency for the USA was probably just play acting and reading off a script when he implied only last July that the current US deterrent in place is inadequate to combat HS missiles.

I concede, that you might be right and US do have something up their sleeve. It's a possibility. As would Russia.

Both Putin and Zelenskyi has today said they are ready to negotiate... lets see if they manage to strike a deal.
If not, then Im willing to guess that Ukrain will be heavily bombed to put EU under stress from more refugees, in turn causing them to advocate that Zelenskyi gives in.....

There is a very sad situation in the city of Mariupol as many of you know the situation.
There is no reinforcements coming to help these brave, courageous, honorable, soldiers...
Being a veteran disabled I salute them, regardless what side you are on...
Imagine somebody invaded your country and killed and murdered children, women, old people, male-female...
Surrounded for three weeks now without water, electric, food...
The message he's sending out is he knows they know the odds are against them... Low on ammo, low on everything...
He plea for help but knows help is not coming soon...
These are the 300 Spartans of ancient time...
They bought the entire country time to mobilize, pretty soon all those recruits, reservists, people in villages, National Guard, local defense forces, foreign freedom fighters... Men and women, and teenagers all coming together close to approximately a million... Now armed and trained and moving to the front in all directions...
The question is if these 300 brave soldiers will be there to greet them ?

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I salute them and honor them as a veteran and pray for them and there soul.
They will be remembered throughout history now around the world forever as the 300 Spartans of Ukraine...
Monuments and statues will be built in their honor...
Like we have here...
Video is only three minutes..
I wish that somebody in the Ukrainian community in the United States or wherever would make another YouTube video which English subtitles in the bottom so all of us can understand the bravery.
Please share this to others, and don't be afraid of the Russian Communists bots... They have entire brigade working 24 seven...

www.youtube.com...

* - The Internal Security Agency points out that Russia is more and more often acts against Poland. A list of 45 people from diplomatic circles working on behalf of Russia's intelligence has been prepared. A request has been made for the expulsion of these people from Poland - announced @StZaryn

* - Mariupol is burning today

* - (Location of this event is not known) - Photo: reportedly destroyed jamming communication station R-330ZH

* - National police resuming work in Irpin

* - Photo: container for cluster ammunition after shelling in Derchachi, Kharkiv region

* - Russian army shelled Ingul district of Mykolaiv overnight. One of shells destroyed 2-storey house, killing 2

* - Yesterday, Russia lost 3 Orlan-10 drones (1st and 2nd ones gor destroyed, 3rd one was captured)

* - Heavy explosion in Rubizhne this morning

* - British Defense Ministry: The battles in northern Ukraine are still largely halted

* - Russian army shelled Kharkiv 32 times yesterday with MLRS, tanks, artillery

* - Russian army shelled Shevchenkivsky and Svyatoshinsky districts in Kyiv. Several private houses, residential apartments blocks, a mall damaged. Civil defense extinguishing fires. 4 wounded

* - In Rubizhne Russian army shelled residential apartments block. 3 killed, 2 of them - children

* - Russia is likely to respond to failures to suppress Ukrainian revolt in occupied cities with increasingly "violent and coercive measures: British Defense Intelligence Russian efforts to manipulate media and install pro-Kremlin puppets have "failed" so far, UK assesses

* - The Biden administration is preparing new sanctions on most members of Russia's State Duma, the lower house of parliament, as the U.S. continues its crackdown on Moscow over its ongoing war against Ukraine

* - Ukraine's CERT team has published a report today detailing yet another data wiper aimed at its systems. This one's called DoubleZero and comes after other wiper attacks such as: -WhisperGate -HermeticWiper -IsaacWiper -CaddyWiper

* - Clashes and artillery shelling in Trostyanets, fires burning

* - .@Maersk still has ships calling at Russian ports to deliver containers booked before the invasion of Ukraine & to pick up 50000 containers stranded in Russia: Singapore flag container-ship Mærsk Gironde transited Bosphorus toward Med en route from Novorossiysk to Istanbul Ambarlı

* - Mayor of Ivano-Frankivsk: shots heard in the city were targeting of enemy UAVs

* - Senior US Defense official says no indications that Belarus military is preparing to join the fight in Ukraine

* - Russia still has "vast majority of their assembled available inventory of surface-to-air missiles and cruise missiles available to them.the thing that they are running the lowest on are air-launched cruise missiles. just over 50% of what they had assembled left"- senior defense official


Flightradar24
* - IAM - Boeing 767-2EY(ER) / Italy - Air Force - Departing Rzeszow (South East Poland)
* - FORTE11 - Northrop Grumman RQ-4A Global Hawk / USAF - Black Sea

Ukraine will receive equipment from NATO to protect against chemical, biological and nuclear threats.

Source

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg announced this at a briefing on the eve of the summit, EP reports.

"I expect the Allies to agree to provide additional support (to Ukraine) tomorrow. This includes cybersecurity assistance, as well as equipment to help protect Ukraine from chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear threats," he said.

Stoltenberg reaffirmed the Alliance's position that it sought to prevent the war from leaving Ukraine.

"We are determined to do everything we can to support Ukraine. But we have a responsibility to ensure that the war doesn't go beyond Ukraine and become a conflict between Russia and NATO," he said.

As reported, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will take part in the NATO summit on March 24 in video format. Zelenskyy will speak about the need to stop Russia's war crimes against the Ukrainian population and civilian infrastructure.

Nobody wants a global war. Still.
Everybody just wants this to end ASAP.

I'm just not sure whether we're moving to the phase two or the end. There's a chance that tomorrow might shed some light on this.

originally posted by: flice
Both Putin and Zelenskyi has today said they are ready to negotiate... lets see if they manage to strike a deal.
If not, then Im willing to guess that Ukrain will be heavily bombed to put EU under stress from more refugees, in turn causing them to advocate that Zelenskyi gives in.....

What exactly do you think they should 'negotiate'?

- Biden Singles Out India for ‘Shaky’ Stance on Russia, Source: news.antiwar.com...

- Syria’s Moscow-backed ‘IS Hunters’ call for recruits to join fight, Source: www.middleeasteye.net...

- US Policy in Ukraine Dumb and Dumber, Source: www.antiwar.com...

- Ukrainians Posting POW footage on social media may constitute human rights violation, Source: www.militarytimes.com...

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Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger has demanded that Israel “pick a side” amid Russia’s ongoing attack on Ukraine, insisting it cannot remain neutral despite Tel Aviv’s efforts to mediate negotiations and bring an end to the conflict.

Source: libertarianinstitute.org...

At 22minutes/20 seconds into this video, President Biden comes down the stairs after arriving at the Brussels airport a few hours ago. Looks like he's afraid...or unsure. Why is he there?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
* - Security Council rejects Russian draft resolution on humanitarian situation in Ukraine

What is this?

ETA

Found out:
U.N. Security Council defeats Russia humanitarian resolution on Ukraine that would omit fault

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. Security Council on Wednesday overwhelmingly defeated a Russian resolution that acknowledged Ukraine’s growing humanitarian needs — but didn’t mention the Russian invasion that caused the escalating crisis which has left millions of Ukrainians in desperate need of food, water and shelter...

U.S. Ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield countered that Russia was “attempting to use this council to provide cover for its brutal actions.”

“It really is unconscionable that Russia would have the audacity to put forward a resolution asking the international community to solve a humanitarian crisis that Russia alone created,” she said. “Russia does not care about the deteriorating humanitarian conditions. … If they cared, they would stop fighting. Russia is the aggressor, the attacker, the invader, the sole party in Ukraine engaged in a campaign of brutality against the people of Ukraine, and they want us to pass a resolution that does not acknowledge their culpability.”

a reply to: carewemust

Rumours have it there will be an assassination attempt.

a reply to: ColoradoTemplar

Rumours from where/who?