Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: frogs453

The black eyes and bruised faces tell a different story.At least on the one I saw.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: JinMI


No.

Because putin's an insane madman.

Yes he is.

I read a biography of Putin years ago. I highly recommend doing so. He's as cutthroat as you can get.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: JinMI


No.

Because putin's an insane madman.

Thanks CNN but i disgree.

Crude, cold, smug, opressive brute, sure.

Maybe even a madman is arguable.

Insane? An unwise assertion.

a reply to: anonentity


I get that. This discussion was on a video of an uninjured man. Like I said, I don't know if even that is acceptable, but that was the consensus.

a reply to: frogs453

its possible that they can waive the convention in this fashion I dont know the legality of it

but if they wish to go on tv and confess its their decision entirely I guess.

a reply to: JinMI


What's cnn?

I am speaking of my own observations relat3d ti the Ukraine invasion, nothing else.

Not putin's history or the msm I don't even watch.

Putin's acting like he completely lost his marbles, there was nothing 'sane' about what he did, how he did it, the propaganda 'justifying' it, or anything else about what he's doing.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Cnn is irrelevant however they mirror you own observations.

If you want to ignore putin and russias past and then try to make sense and judgements on whats going on today, thats on you.

There is not justification to his actions. However understanding why he believes them to be justified is literal intelligence.

a reply to: JinMI


I still have no idea what this 'cnn' thing is.

I've done anything BUT ignore putin's 'judgements' and 'justifications', they were all in his own mind.

There is no there there.



Hear it straight from a most qualified Patriot:

Lawrence Sellin, Ph.D. is retired U.S. Army Reserve colonel and a veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq. He had a civilian career in international business and medical research.

Worked in a BSL3 at Fort Detrick.

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

at present, no scientific evidence exists directly demonstrating bioweapon development by U.S.-funded research laboratories in Ukraine

Putin invented a conspiracy theory (2 actually), then forgot it was his own fabrication and used it as 'justification' for invading Ukraine.

That is NOT the actions of the cold & calculating putin that we've seen in the past.

Neither is the military or diplomatic strategy on display.

The Geneva convention is a joke. U notice what Russia has been doing to civilians? I think those are bigger violations.

originally posted by: Cydonia2012
The Geneva convention is a joke.

What about it is a joke?

originally posted by: Cydonia2012

U notice what Russia has been doing to civilians? I think those are bigger violations.

I think it's counter-productive and folly to trivialize one for the purposes of propping up another.

Personally i find the atrocities on equal condemnation footing.

Putin isn't going to lose anything but the Russian people will suffer...They don't want to.

Even Russian State TV Is Pleading With Putin to Stop the War

State propagandists called for Putin to end the “special military operation” before “frightening” sanctions destabilize his regime and risk civil war in Russia.

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Even the infamous show run by Soloviev—who was recently sanctioned as an accomplice of Putin by the European Union—became dominated by predictions of Russian doom and gloom. Andrey Sidorov, deputy dean of world politics at Moscow State University, cautioned: “For our country, this period won’t be easy. It will be very difficult. It might be even more difficult than it was for the Soviet Union from 1945 until the 1960s... We’re more integrated into the global economy than the Soviet Union, we’re more dependent on imports—and the main part is that the Cold War is the war of the minds, first and foremost. Unfortunately, the Soviet Union had a consolidating idea on which its system was built. Unlike the Soviet Union, Russia has nothing like that to offer.”

Russia Withdrew Recognition of the Geneva Convention on International Armed Conflicts

On November 12th Vladimir Putin signed the Law “On the Withdrawal of the Declaration Made upon the Ratification of the Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions from August 12th 1949, Relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts”.

This was reported on the website of the President of the Russian Federation.

“Reference of the State-Legal Department

The Federal Law proposes to withdraw the declaration made by the USSR upon the ratification of the Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of August 12th 1949 and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol I), adopted at Geneva on June 8th 1977.

The Supreme Soviet of the USSR ratified Protocol I on August 4th 1989, stating that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, in accordance with article 90, paragraph 2, of Protocol I, recognises ipso facto, without special agreement with respect to any other High Contracting Party accepting the same obligation, the competence of the Commission (Paragraph 1 of Resolution No. 330-1 of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR from August 4th 1989).

The following circumstances served as the basis for the withdrawal of the statement of competence of the commission.

The Commission has not actually performed its functions since 1991. There is no Russian representative in its composition. At the same time, the Russian Federation pays an annual contribution to the commission’s budget. In addition, in the current international environment, the risks of abuse of the commission’s powers for political purposes by unscrupulous states increase significantly.”

Russia's Putin revokes Geneva convention protocol on war crimes victims

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has revoked an additional protocol to the Geneva Conventions related to the protection of victims of international armed conflicts, a Russian parliamentary website cites a letter from him as saying.

The Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Convention was ratified by the Soviet Union’s Supreme Council, or parliament, in 1989.

Putin’s letter, dated Oct. 16 and addressed to the speaker of lower house of parliament on the “recall of the statement made at the ratification”, said an international commission, set up in order to investigate war crimes against civilians, “has effectively failed to carry out its functions since 1991”.

“In the current international environment, the risks of the commission’s power abuse by the states, which are acting in bad faith, are increasing significantly,” says the document cited by the website that documents laws proposed and passed by the Russian parliament.

It also said that there was no Russian representative on the commission, while Russia has been regularly paying its fees.

Russia will no longer participate in Council of Europe - TASS

March 10 (Reuters) - Russia will no longer participate in the Council of Europe, the TASS news agency quoted the Russian foreign ministry as saying on Thursday.

The ministry said in a statement that NATO and European Union countries were undermining the European body designed to uphold human rights, rule of law and democracy.

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a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Again, no one but putin is claiming bio weapons.

Again, up until a few days ago suggesting US interest backed bio labs in Ukraine was conspiracy theory.

Again, you are parroting the MSM lines that no one asked about.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Again, no one but putin is claiming bio weapons.

Again, up until a few days ago suggesting US interest backed bio labs in Ukraine was conspiracy theory.

Again, you are parroting the MSM lines that no one asked about.

It was never a conspiracy theory and the records were available since day one in 2005. Even the documents spell out what the agreement is all about. The biolabs were old Soviet/Russian biolabs that Ukraine needed assistance in dealing with, hence the agreement. Absolutely nothing was hidden from the world and there were no bioweapons/chemical weapons being produced.

Another Russian lie to deflect from their war crimes.

As far as NATO goes - if Russia uses chemical/biological weapons in Ukraine NATO will get involved in the war. If Putin thinks he can win that he is more unhinged and insane than we thought.

a reply to: JinMI


No 'they' were not.

I was saying the same thing right here from day 1.

So were other unbrainwashed folks both here and elsewhere.

It was only a conspiracy theory for those that went bat# crazy for a few days and didn't want to hear any different.

Same folks are now trying to claim the current nonsense that this was somehow hidden or controversial.

It was not, and is not.

R ussia calls U.N. meeting on U.S. "biological activities" – U.S. says "false flag"

United Nations – Russia hastily called a Friday morning U.N. Security Council meeting late on Thursday evening to discuss in open debate what it called "the military biological activities of the US on the territory of Ukraine" — leading the Biden administration to immediately denounce it as a "false flag effort."

In a comment sent to CBS News, Olivia Dalton, spokesperson for the U.S. Mission to the United Nations, said, "We're not going to let Russia gaslight the world or use the UN Security Council as a venue for promoting their disinformation."

"Russia has a well-documented history of using chemical weapons and has long maintained a biological weapons program in violation of international law," Dalton said, adding, "Russia also has a track record of falsely accusing the West of the very violations that Russia itself is perpetrating."

"This is exactly the kind of false flag effort we have warned Russia might initiate to justify a biological or chemical weapons attack," she said.

The Friday meeting was announced by Russia's Deputy U.N. Ambassador Dmitry Polyansky in a tweet linking to the Russian Ministry of Defense, claiming analysis of documents about U.S. "military biological activities" in Ukraine, with a half-dozen documents attached with graphs and charts.

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a reply to: Xcathdra

Your ability to investigate and find answers so quickly is most impressive.

a reply to: Xcathdra


Someone with more skills needs to go do their thing on these 'top secret' documents that russia is claiming to be evidence.

Pretty sure they actually say "Unclassified" on the top.

Tomorrow's session should be fun.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Even the EU is calling BS on Russian claims and they say the same thing - They were Soviet/Russian biolabs from the cold war that were dumped on Ukraine (just like Russia did with Chernobyl).

a reply to: Xcathdra

mmmhmmm

Forgive me if i dont believe our govt at their word and also when they squirm over benign queries.

Even if you take Russia at its word, which i dont, its in no way a justification. Although i will say that since were all in pootins head, that i think he knows its not justifiable. However he gets to sneer at the west for the hypocrisy.

China approves.