Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: JinMI

The level 4 bio lab in Wuhan also was not a weapon lab but i think the argument surrounding the "weaponization" of that lab is relevant.

So all things considered, what is the propencity for any level lab to become weaponized. Nulin and Rubio seem to think that its rather high bases on testimony.

Exactly.

a reply to: shooterbrody

She says show me the proof. Without proof, and elaborate microbiological proof, it's all just conspiracy theory. Think what you want.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
a reply to: shooterbrody

She says show me the proof. Without proof, and elaborate microbiological proof, it's all just conspiracy theory. Think what you want.

The nice lady in the senate hearing confirmed the sites.
What more proof do you need?
Bio lab + invasion shenanigans = covid or worse

Oh
Did you forget where you are? We do conspiracy here, at least until it is confirmed, you know like the illegal gof research in the usa government funded wuhan lab.
Will Ukraine be any different?

a reply to: shooterbrody

All Nuland confirmed was bio research labs, which are spread out all over the world. Again, conspiracy theory until you provide the proof it was bio WEAPON lab. Good luck with that.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
a reply to: shooterbrody

She says show me the proof. Without proof, and elaborate microbiological proof, it's all just conspiracy theory. Think what you want.

There is no bio labs if there were Russians would have attacked and taken it straight to the UN. This was not meant for the west this is just a lie for the people in Russia.

That way Putin is protecting them so all the dead Russian soldier's families have a reason for their sacrifice. This is strictly Russian propaganda for domestic use only. The international community knows better

a reply to: dragonridr

Its undisputible fact that there are bio labs in Ukraine funded in part by the US.

Weaponized? Nope . .well right up until they are.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
a reply to: shooterbrody

All Nuland confirmed was bio research labs, which are spread out all over the world. Again, conspiracy theory until you provide the proof it was bio WEAPON lab. Good luck with that.

When asked about chem/bio weapons SHE DID NOT DENY SUCH, and she did make other denials.
Perjury in a senate hearing is a dangerous thing.
You can pretend that the potential for horrible biological warfare isn't real all you like. Would the potential be there if the usa didn't fund it?

a reply to: dragonridr
People lie in senate hearings all the time.
Lol
Good day!

originally posted by: McGinty


It’s also possible that potus has been told the planes could make the difference and end the conflict. Maybe potus doesn’t want the conflict to end, but instead drag on in the hope it drags Putin down with it - his own people eventually turning on him.

IMO there are two issues worth examining. First, there is an insufficient number of aircraft on offer to turn to the tide. Second, pilots are harder to replace than aircraft. Subject to the Ukrainian Air Force's causality rates, there is the risk in delaying the deal, there are too few pilots left to fly the planes.

That’s the US MO with Russia (a la Reagan vs communism; make them overstretch)

If the Russians overstretch their territorial ambitions in western Europe, draft boards are coming to a town near you.

If that’s the plan then imo it’s foolhardy, since Putin is far less predictable than Brezhnev or Gorbachev. Who knows what his last roll of the dice might be if faced with a personal ending.

Foolhardy is the understatement of the century.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: dragonridr

Its undisputible fact that there are bio labs in Ukraine funded in part by the US.

Weaponized? Nope . .well right up until they are.

a reply to: dragonridr

Cant watch at the moment.

Cliffnotes?

George Galloway chimes in on the Bio Weapons lab discovered in ukraine as claimed by China and Russia:

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Ukraine being used and abused by America

a reply to: ISeekTruth101


"Ukraine being used and abused by America"


Did the U.S. invade Ukraine?

Pretty sure that was someone else.



But thanks for the fake russian propaganda lies, we never see any of them here.


A bio lab is not a bio WEAPON lab.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: dragonridr

Its undisputible fact that there are bio labs in Ukraine funded in part by the US.

Weaponized? Nope . .well right up until they are.

From the same people that had incontestable evidence of WMDs in Iraq. Irrefutable intelligence. The type of intelligence that had United Kingdom and NATO saying “hey we dont need to see the intelligence reports, its from america. Thats good enough for me” lets invade Iraq guys.

20 years later... “I’m sure the WMDs are here in Iraq somewhere we just havent looked hard enough”

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: ISeekTruth101


"Ukraine being used and abused by America"


Did the U.S. invade Ukraine?

Pretty sure that was someone else.



But thanks for the fake russian propaganda lies, we never see any of them here.


A bio lab is not a bio WEAPON lab.

You dont have to invade a nation to “use and abuse” a nation.

Most recent example? Big bully america “hey poland send your jets to ukraine now” “no we’re not sending ours, send yours... it will be fine” “we got your back.. cough cough”

a reply to: ISeekTruth101


Was Ukraine just invaded by a bully?

Why wouldn't civilized nations want to help an otherwise peaceful country defend itself?

a reply to: ISeekTruth101

That was more of a usability issue. Ukranians can fly Migs, F15s not so much.

Ive a question. Poland wouldnt directly send them to Ukraine, instead opting to send to Germany first. Why? All are Nato countries, save Ukraine of course.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
a reply to: shooterbrody

Wife just answered you. Gof research is a common thing done at bio research labs. Doesn't mean it was weaponized, necessarily. She says some pretty elaborate evidence would be needed to prove weaponization. You have such evidence?

After wuhan, you believe the government?
You will believe what comes out of Ukraine?

When something doesn't feel right, and you're experienced in life, your intuition is usually correct.

FYI:

It does not look like the main news services that make their home in Ukraine have any mention of the "Maternity or Women or Children's Hospital" bombing that the West is so captivated over, in their attempt to help Zelensky get NATO fighter jets and a "no-fly" zone over Ukraine.

Source 1: www.kyivpost.com...

Source 2: euromaidanpress.com...

Source 3: ukranews.com...

List of Ukraine News Outlets: blog.feedspot.com...

a reply to: JinMI

Poland has refused to send Migs to Ukraine because they feared and worried that things could further escalate further.

a reply to: carewemust

You are right about Zelensky trying NATO or other countries to push for a no fly zone, this is how they tried in Syria. But a no fly zone would turn the conflict even worse.