Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

I saw a photo a few days ago that allegedly showed the interior of a Russian fighter jet....it's GPS was commercial grade and was crudely attached with a "c" bracket. I didn't believe it when I saw it, but it makes sense if the military brass has been skimming. Are we sure their nukes even work? Might the be filled with playdough rather than explosives?

From the young Ukrainian lady I follow who reports out from inside the country:

Real life story for you guys.
A story about idiots.
4 Russian tanks entered a village in Sumy region. Locals were observing them from their homes. Watching these mammals in habitat. Tanks entered the village. The crew got out. They drained the fuel from two tanks into the other two and left. Two empty tanks were abandoned in the middle of the village. Locals ran out to them, stuck Ukrainian flags in them and ran back to their homes. Continued observing.
The two tanks that previously left came back (probably with some fuel). They noticed two tanks with Ukrainian flags and started engaging them. Destroyed the tanks, then drove up closer, realized those were their tanks, got upset. Locals were laughing their lungs out.
Now, the two tanks that got left started driving around the village (probably got lost). Came across a bridge with 5 tons load capacity for light vehicles. One tank tried to drive through and the bridge collapsed. The tank with the crew drowned. Locals we’re rolling on the floor laughing.
Only one tank was left. It was driving and driving until it came across a ditch and rolled over in it. The crew got out. Pushed it and pushed it…until they couldn’t anymore. They left it be and dismounted.
And this, guys, is how one village in Sumy region, without a single shot, but with two flags, defeated 4 enemy tanks with Russian invaders in it.
GLORY TO THE NATION. # RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

- Post Uli

originally posted by: midicon
a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Everything you cited recently is ridiculous because it’s propaganda. No sources, no facts.

Ukraine as a source? Seriously? Same guys talking about Ghost of Kyiv downing ten Jets singlehandedly.

Calm down and breath. Add some sources.

There are those that seek to undermine threads using established methods. They have no interest in truth or sources really. Once identified it's best to ignore them. Empty cans make the most noise.

Acknowledged, will ignore from here on! Thanks

a reply to: WeDemBoyz

Was discussing this just last evening with my son. The Russian infrastructure and military maintenance seems to be almost nonexistent. My query was: "How many of these nukes, due to lack of maintenance, are in such bad shape they either don't leave the silo; launch successfully but never detonate; or detonate leaving the silo?"

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Didn't realize Wagner changed their name

Saw yesterday that a number of that Wagner trash was eliminated; photos of dogtags were provided as proof.


www.businessinsider.com...

a reply to: Valhall
Sorry but that story comes across as very difficult to believe, very cute and cartoon-like... but more-than-likely this "young Ukrainian lady" is just an outlet for some good 'ol fairytale propaganda stories to tell the kids.

All the stories about Russian troops being incompetent with crappy old vehicles falling to bits may give a false sense of hope to Ukrainian fighters.
This was how they did it in Grozny(Chechen capital)-They first sent in loads of crappy old vehicles and many cannon fodder/expendable/least trained troops which served to both weaken the populace and gauge their defences.

Then came the speecial forces with the newer/less crappy equipment.

To outsiders that may first look like they don't know what they are doing-but If you look at it from the perspective of the kremlin,they don't care about lives lost or crappy old vehicles lost-but the sheer brute force effect is in their eyes good enough to seed chaos and soften up the target cities,ready to be hit with the better troops and armour later.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

MSM narrative is the Russians are weak - Yet nobody is stopping them

Curious - if you believe the Narrative

Bio Security labs Ukraine - Denial is not possible

Certainly puts a SPIN on things

originally posted by: MetalThunder
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

MSM narrative is the Russians are weak - Yet nobody is stopping them

Curious - if you believe the Narrative

Bio Security labs Ukraine - Denial is not possible

Certainly puts a SPIN on things

Exactly, “Russian forces have been decimated, Ukraine winning the war.
12,000 Russians dead. 300 Ukranian dead. Ukranian airforce is operational” “Russia losing, they won’t last any longer “Ukraine have taken control back of the City”

Meanwhile, Ukraine calls on volunteers from every nation to join their new foreign legion to help the cause. Please NATO sene us Fighter Jets, weapons and impose a no fly zone. Just stop the russian planes and we can do the rest.

Just want some honest news!

a reply to: MetalThunder
I read about the biolabs years back-been going on since the 2014/maidan revolt.
Not surprised,we know the US offshores dodgy bio research to places they can get away with what the law prevents on the homeland.
We also know gain of function research is banned as it falls under bio weaponization,but thats what they were doing in wuhan.

There were official documents online all about the Ukraine labs,which were recently taken off of course..but they can still be seen in archives I think.

The whole thing is dodgy as hell-but Russia do the same thing so them pretending its the "evil americans" doesn't give them much credit IMO.

Maybe if they had taken evidence to the UN before invading Ukraine,more would have taken notice.
But now its just being treated as fake news by the MSM because they all have to tow the line after the whole wuhan coverup.

Its a multi layered #sandwich and we all get forced to eat it sadly.

a reply to: frogs453

its almost unthinkable that you'd leave your homeland and your partner behind knowing you may never see either again
and having to go to an unknown future at the hands of mercy in a foreign land.

Humans will go through hell just to survive it seems

I hope that this calms down rapid style and that diplomacy works because we have lost too many people for nothing

The number of refugees fleeing Ukraine has gone from 1.3 Million to 1.7 millions and now 2.2 Million in just the last few days UN Refugee centre says

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

All the stories about Russian troops being incompetent with crappy old vehicles falling to bits may give a false sense of hope to Ukrainian fighters.
This was how they did it in Grozny(Chechen capital)-They first sent in loads of crappy old vehicles and many cannon fodder/expendable/least trained troops which served to both weaken the populace and gauge their defences

Reminds me of that old Zulu film where the first warriors are sacrificed so they can count the guns of the defenders.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

All the stories about Russian troops being incompetent with crappy old vehicles falling to bits may give a false sense of hope to Ukrainian fighters.
This was how they did it in Grozny(Chechen capital)-They first sent in loads of crappy old vehicles and many cannon fodder/expendable/least trained troops which served to both weaken the populace and gauge their defences

Reminds me of that old Zulu film where the first warriors are sacrificed so they can count the guns of the defenders.

UK update-after Zelensky addressed parliment yesterday:

Defence Secretary Ben Wallace has announced Britain is “exploring” the possibility of donating super-fast Starstreak missiles to Ukraine’s military amid calls from President Volodymyr Zelensky to help defend the skies above the country.
With concerns growing that Vladimir Putin could be preparing to step up his onslaught on Ukraine, NATO has repeatedly rejected appeals to secure a no fly zone.
Mr Zelensky renewed his appeal for more air defence support in a historic address to MPs by video link on Tuesday.

uk.finance.yahoo.com...

A way around the no fly zone maybe?
Will Putin see it as direct involvement?Who knows.
Also they are discussing sending extra troops to reinforce NATOs eastern flank-

The plan will see soldiers in Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania reach a "brigade strength” of 5,000, up from the current 900 British troops in the Baltics serving alongside Danish and French soldiers.
Many are also urging states to switch from a "deterrence" to a "full-scale defence" mission, as Putin's bloody war sees no signs of abating.
Discussions over the plans will take place during a video call of defence ministers from NATO's 30 member states next Wednesday. Anthony Blinken, US Secretary of State, has said NATO is considering more permanent troops in the Baltics.

www.express.co.uk...

Chernobyl "disconnected from Ukrianes power grid"-This may mean no power at the plant,as it imported electricity rather than generated it obviously.)

Ukrainian officials say they do not know what the radiation levels are in Chernobyl, after it was captured by Russian forces earlier in the invasion.
Chernobyl is the infamous site of the world's biggest nuclear disaster in 1986, and its levels are carefully monitored to prevent any further issues.
Officials later said that Chernobyl had been disconnected from the country's power grid.

news.sky.com...-body

And there is now a possible way to de escalate,via a proposed security agreement which involves Ukraine NOT joining NATO-

A new security treaty - guaranteed by countries such as the US, Turkey or neighbouring countries potentially including Russia - could be an alternative to joining NATO, according to proposal by President Zelenskyy's Servant of the People Party.
Russia says Ukraine must drop its quest to join NATO before it will cease its bombardment of the country.
The idea that Russia could be a guarantor looks, given the current situation, ridiculous - but the proposal would see any state involved sign legal agreements.

news.sky.com...-body
I doubt the Russians will go for it,as Ukraine still refuse to allow independent Donetsk/Luhansk,and want Crimea back.

Any truth to the Chechen assassin squad sent for Zalensky being wiped out by Ukranian fighters? If so, it needs more attention, could be part of the reason Belarus has backed out on Russia (besides the sanctions)..That was Belarus' Brute Squad, known for being the most awful of the awful, no discipline, but specifically inhumane.

The Kadyrov Forces Unit or Regiment, their natural enemy being The Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion, members of both groups fighting in Ukraine.

This is at least seven days old.

Wonder if the Chechen 'bad guys' will regroup..definitely a wild card because if they do regroup they will be used once Russia has finished raising Ukraine to the ground as a terror tool…

But by golly they better not step over this here line or its on like donkey kong.

a reply to: sapien82

I hope that this calms down rapid style and that diplomacy works because we have lost too many people for nothing

It will calm down once the money men and political miscreants have milked all they can from the proxy war. The public have been suitably primed, the weapons manufacturers can shift their gear and there are also all the spin offs for the politicians at home.
My daughter in law works for the biggest MOD contractor here and she has already made a killing on her shares. Such is the way.
We feel sympathy for the civilians killed and rightly so but it is our own apathy that lets the ne'er do wells call the shots and run the show.
There will be no nuclear war of that I'm sure but the killing will always go on.

a reply to: didntasktobeborned

The assassination squad was wiped out at the airport the moment they landed in ukraine. They were the 3rd attempt on zelensky's life.

The kremlin has people inside who are alerting Ukraine to things like that.

Fwiw, This was all reported by NBC last week.

a reply to: Valhall

"detonate while leaving the silo"

Boy Howdy, that would surprise the owners.

Cheers

a reply to: WeDemBoyz

No telling if they work.

To be honest, that question has hung over all of the world's nuclear arsenal for a long time. Lots of systems that -should- work, but as they say, the proof is in the pudding.

Still, the question is valid because apparently there has been a lot short-cutting and theft of funds in Russian defense procurement. We may imagine their nuclear forces are an incorruptible elite, but that is probably not true. It may be the case that those forces have less corruption than other branches of the Russian military.

Cheers