Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: Xcathdra


"Viktor Dudar"

RIP.



Viktor was a true Patriot.

And a true friend of ATS.

a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Just can’t trust the mainstream media run by the Western cabal and conglomerates.

And we can't trust Russia either. They are blasting propaganda as well. Russia is not a free country with free media. At least the west has alternative media and journalists that are free to report how they wish.

It would be nice if western mainstream media could stick to just the facts and the various reasonings behind Russia's invasion.

While I'm all for critizing Ukraine and their propaganda, we should be careful to avoid falling for the large amount of pro-Russian propagand as well. And afterall, Russia ruined there chance to reveal Ukrainian corruption when they invaded the country.

Now, who is going to believe Putin, russian officials, or media?

originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Just can’t trust the mainstream media run by the Western cabal and conglomerates.

And we can't trust Russia either. They are blasting propaganda as well. Russia is not a free country with free media. At least the west has alternative media and journalists that are free to report how they wish.

It would be nice if western mainstream media could stick to just the facts and the various reasonings behind Russia's invasion.

While I'm all for critizing Ukraine and their propaganda, we should be careful to avoid falling for the large amount of pro-Russian propagand as well. And afterall, Russia ruined there chance to reveal Ukrainian corruption when they invaded the country.

Now, who is going to believe Putin, russian officials, or media?

How about looking at history. Was there a coup in 2014? Have the Azovs been genociding Russians? Did the US fail to use diplomacy? Was the Russian bear poked and the outcome expected ?

The 3rd highest population of Ukrainians, outside Ukraine itself and Russia, is in Canada.

wiki CDN Ukes

Older CDN's will enjoy this

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Just can’t trust the mainstream media run by the Western cabal and conglomerates.

And we can't trust Russia either. They are blasting propaganda as well. Russia is not a free country with free media. At least the west has alternative media and journalists that are free to report how they wish.

It would be nice if western mainstream media could stick to just the facts and the various reasonings behind Russia's invasion.

While I'm all for critizing Ukraine and their propaganda, we should be careful to avoid falling for the large amount of pro-Russian propagand as well. And afterall, Russia ruined there chance to reveal Ukrainian corruption when they invaded the country.

Now, who is going to believe Putin, russian officials, or media?

How about looking at history. Was there a coup in 2014? Have the Azovs been genociding Russians? Did the US fail to use diplomacy? Was the Russian bear poked and the outcome expected ?

Was there a stolen election just before a coup?

Were those russians on Ukrainian soil that russia had claimed for itself?

Of course we tried diplomacy. Publicly.

Our biden idiot has done everything BUT poke the bear. From his very first day in office.




Is the best propaganda lies you have left?

Weak.

a reply to: Valhall

Modern warships don't have much in the way of armor plate. Even World War II-era antitank guns would be a hazard for them.

Cheers

a reply to: Erno86

Rasputitsa, beautiful Rasputitsa

Slow down the pace. Buy time.

Cheers

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: Erno86

Rasputitsa, beautiful Rasputitsa

Slow down the pace. Buy time.

Cheers

Didn't some one predict that just a few weeks ago?

Spot on with your timing Cav!

a reply to: Valhall

On Gerasimov.

Oops, folks here already spotted the "correct" Gerasimov.

One other thing. Seems like being deputy commander of the 41st Army is a seriously hazardous duty.

Someone has eyes on that headquarters.

A truism we were taught in the Cold War:

If it can be seen, it can be hit.

If it can be hit, it can be killed.

BTW, for Xcathdra and PatriotGames4u:



Fascinating thread.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2


Thanks Cav, but Xcathdra deserves ALL the credit.



I'm mostly just playing defense so she(?) can do what she does.

I did have a sourcey friend early on, but just found out why I haven't heard anything from him for a while.

7 March update --> www.understandingwar.org...

Key Takeaways

* Russian forces are consolidating and preparing for further operations along the western and eastern outskirts of Kyiv, especially in the Irpin area on the west and the Brovary area on the east;

* Ukrainian forces are challenging the extended Russian lines reaching from Sumy, which Russian forces have not yet taken, to the eastern outskirts of Kyiv;

* Russian troops are likely attempting to bypass Mykolayiv and cross the Southern Bug upriver of that city to permit an advance on Odesa that will combine with an impending amphibious operation against that city; and

* Russian forces are driving north from Crimea toward the city of Zaporizhya.

Map at the URL noted above.

Cheers

a reply to: Soloprotocol
here is the old declassified nuke map i think we can take most of the old soviet states out and Ukraine of the equation but mostly for informative purposes futureoflife.org... edit to add the actual link i derped

in regards to your "cockroaches" will be the only surviors the admiddly older paper seems to discredit that statement,not that life would be fun in the slightest but its one of the more detailed documents ive found on the matter its a pdf (and quite long) so i cant exactly quote it but it coveres topics id not thought of like the fate of russian cattle industry and how clustred and centralized both USA and russias oil production is www.princeton.edu...

but yeah northern hemisphere would get brunt of fall out nothing would be roses and sunshine but far from an actual extiction event , paper covers limited striked against oil faclities silo strikes in limited engagements and full blown oh crap nuclear war

i personally dont think nuclear war is a likely outcome from this but figured ats may enjoy the detail of such a document

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: ISeekTruth101

Just can’t trust the mainstream media run by the Western cabal and conglomerates.

And we can't trust Russia either. They are blasting propaganda as well. Russia is not a free country with free media. At least the west has alternative media and journalists that are free to report how they wish.

It would be nice if western mainstream media could stick to just the facts and the various reasonings behind Russia's invasion.

While I'm all for critizing Ukraine and their propaganda, we should be careful to avoid falling for the large amount of pro-Russian propagand as well. And afterall, Russia ruined there chance to reveal Ukrainian corruption when they invaded the country.

Now, who is going to believe Putin, russian officials, or media?

How about looking at history. Was there a coup in 2014? Have the Azovs been genociding Russians? Did the US fail to use diplomacy? Was the Russian bear poked and the outcome expected ?

Was there a stolen election just before a coup?

Were those russians on Ukrainian soil that russia had claimed for itself?

Of course we tried diplomacy. Publicly.

Our biden idiot has done everything BUT poke the bear. From his very first day in office.




Is the best propaganda lies you have left?

Weak.

How are questions propaganda?

You're saying diplomacy was attempted sufficiently? Even the ultra left msnbc says biden diplomacy was a big part of the issue:

www.msnbc.com...

...And Mig-29 delivery begins.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... older paper on how the russian economy plays with china* ,covers imports and exports and what they send to each other mostly in context of start of covid but could give a glimpse into areas of the russian economy that may do well or be largely unaffected by sanctions

This is some serious World War II stuff.

A Russian military armored train now appears to be taking an active part in the fighting in Ukraine. Video emerged on social media today reportedly showing the train arriving in the southern Ukrainian city of Melitopol after having departed from a yard on the Crimean Peninsula.

That thing will make a big target for anti-tank guided missiles. Ain't the 1940s anymore.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

The reason Russia is unique in having railroad brigades is that logistically, Russian forces are tied to railroad from factory to army depot and to combined arms army and, where possible, to the division/brigade level. No other European nation uses railroads to the extent that the Russian army does. Part of the reason is that Russia is so vast — over 6,000 miles from one end to the other.

Full story


For every change that technological advancement, something before us remains the same. In time, Ukrainian resistance cells will target the Russian railroad network. In shades of T.E. Lawrence and the Arab Revolt targeting the Ottoman Empire railroad infrastructure, their goal isn't to shut down the network. But the more Russian troops who are required to guard railroads, the fewer are available at the front line.

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Czech President Zeman has announced his decision to present Zelenskyy with the Order of the White Lion, the country's highest state award.

here is to hoping he survives to hang it on his wall

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BREAKING - The night of March 8 in capital #Kyiv was the first night since the war began when the #Ukrainian air defense intercepted and destroyed ALL Russian cruise missiles. No impacts registered in Kyiv this night. Source: Ukrainian Army via Telegram channel "operativnoZSU"

not to sure what the usual ratio for intercepted cruise missiles are but it does seem at least the capital has air defenses left in significant numbers

and japan has apparently banned export of key components of oil refining to russia as a new round of sanctions

Russian loved ones phoning a Ukrainian hotline to try and find out if their partners or sons are amongst the dead.

a reply to: xpert11

xpert11 Russian should take one look at what happened with the likes of Brittan's escapades in Northern Ireland.

Turn tail and head back home fast as they can manage.

Coz they are in for some long and hard protracted guerrilla warfare if they do manage to occupy Ukraine.