Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Been talking to someone about this. Because in the U.S. the Generals aren't usually in combat zones. Some key points:

1. Intelligence is apparently being had!

2. When you have a fighting force of about 50% conscripts and the rest drunks, if your Generals don't go toward the front, the front doesn't move much. (this one is more of a jab than a fact, but I still like it)

3. Russian troops don't have the ability to act independently when needed, so a General has to tell them before they do.

4. This is the biggest thing. Putler mandated that no military troops could use foreign-made cell phones because that would be a weak link, so he had this whole Russia-military only comm system set up and the troops (only those in a position to comm) use these Russian-specific "secure comm" phones. So there may be the possibility that these Putler (by the way I'm only calling him Putler from now on) phones may not be working in the kill zone.

a reply to: Valhall


russia supporters here still think we're propagandizing russia.



How do we convince ATS folks that never believe anyone about anything (this a great attribute, not an insult), that there really ISN'T any good news for russia anywhere?

We aren't hiding it, it just doesn't exist

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Thank you! I bet you are right. It would be ultra-insanity to have the head General tromping around a thawing Ukrainian pasture.

a reply to: Valhall

Could the Russia secure comms be being jammed maybe?
If not by Ukraine on the ground-maybe by some black ops drone/sattelitte tech?

originally posted by: nolabel
a reply to: xpert11

So, in short, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that France, the UK or the U.S. deploy nuclear weapons in a first strike role.

I've read some sheeeite since this started but your post takes the biscuit.
Have you not been taking any notice of what is happening?

There is only one person threatening to use nuclear weapons. It isn't France, the UK or the U.S.

Or have you got a source that shows otherwise?

Actions speak louder than words. A nation doesn’t need to verbally threaten to use nuclear force, it’s actions can be taken so.

1962, Russia moves missiles to Cuba in retaliation to USA moving missiles nearby to Russia. And what was USA’s response?

Get the picture? But you carry on blaming Putin for everything.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Okay, it appears it was Vitaly, who is the nephew of the Chief of Generals Valery.

Just can’t trust the mainstream media run by the Western cabal and conglomerates.

Too much propaganda from all sides - some reports would have you believe Ukrainian forces have decimated Russian forces, destroyed significant tanks, aircraft, helicopters. 10,000 russians dead and only a few hundred Ukranians lost... just like King Leonidas and his army of 300.

While the same media outlets say, Ukraine is desperately appealing worldwide for troops to enlist in their “new” foreign legion unit seperate to their “territorial army” unit. Making direct calls to Algeria and Senegal who have turned around and said “Err no, stop recruiting our people”.

And then apparently Ukranian Airforce is still operational, the “Ghost of Kiev” has downed 10 russian jets all by himself... meanwhile various media reports show Ukraine desperately calling on NATO to supply them with Jets.

USA pressuring Poland to send over their MIGs.

Just way too much propaganda, makes your head spin. Not to mention the outright lies from “reputable” news sources reporting “SHOCKING - Russian IFV crushes civilian vehicle, driver miraculously survives” when it turns out to be a Ukranian IFV with no visible Russian markings. But it got its effect... no fact checking just sowing more and more hateful sentiment towards Russia and Putin.

What happened to just... reporting the news? Maybe some fact checking?

Why is that so hard? Why must there be biased agenda driven news reporting and full on propaganda. Keep it honest. P
Watch a few Putin interviews, he speaks plainly, clearly, eloquently. To all the die hard, well-renknowned Western journalists from CBS Fox News CNN.

And you can fact check everything Putin says. Just use trusty Google... because he explained all the events leading up to Ukraine... most people were just too blind to see it coming because of course again ... mainstream media keeping the “well-informed” readers out of the loop.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

This is what has been explained to me. This is not my area of expertise, so critique at will.

The UKR blocked Russian sims, and the Russians in their ignorance destroyed all the 3g/4g towers in Ukraine. Encryption requires digital processing, and 2G is analog. So the Russians have no way to secure their communications.

a reply to: ISeekTruth101


Is that another subtle claim that someone armed Ukraine?

a reply to: ISeekTruth101


Fact check putin!




Please, you're killin me!

a reply to: Valhall

And because of that, I have heard that the communications are being interrupted by the Ukrainian national anthem and such. I'll try to find the link.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Valhall

And because of that, I have heard that the communications are being interrupted by the Ukrainian national anthem and such. I'll try to find the link.

There are frequencies you can listen to to hear the Russians. (yes, they get interrupted with playing the Ukrainian national anthem) And there are times they literally give coordinates on locations. There is a Discord channel that has several Ukrainian and Russian translators monitoring several frequencies and translating those.

Their asses are hanging out in the wind.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: ISeekTruth101


Fact check putin!

Please, you're killin me!

So I went ahead and watched some interviews with the evil man “who should not be named” . I know I was supposed to take Fox news word for it and just you know, not bother looking into this “evil” russian dictator... but just for fun I listened to the guy.

Putin - ‘In 2002 America pulled out of the Antiballistic Missile Treaty with Russia”

Did they? Hmm USA federal websites concurr. Okay so what is the sigficiance of this? Well apparently it was a treaty signed in 1972 between soviet union (Russia honoring the treaty following the collapse of the USSR) and USA in a bid to foster peace and ease tensions between both nuclear superpowers by limiting anballistic missile deployments on both sides. So as not to escalate things like ten years prior in 1962.

Okay so USA left, not Russia... what else Putin?

Putin “In 2011 USA deployed antiballistic missiles to Romania and Poland, barely 75 miles from Russian border.” “ It is known that these launchers can be used with Tomahawk Missiles”

Okay, after some diggin I found this to be true. With a Tomahawk Missile able to be nuclear armed, its a possibility... though due USA “policy descisions” they aren’t armed with nuclear payloads. But can carry the W-80 warhead.

Right then, so I say to myself, hey George - what if Russia deployed their “antiballistic” missiles to say Mexico? Or maybe even Cuba again! I mean we saw how USA responded in 1962.... when russian missiles were 90 miles from USA border....didn’t USA learn a lesson?

Nation by nation, Russia watches as USA + NATO assimilated Estonia, Latvia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Lithuania, Slovenia, Croatia, Albania, Montenegro all during the same time period as the missile deployments.


But it seems we now live in a world where these facts just don’t make it into Fox news, or some people maybe aware but so over idealistic as to say “so what?” Russia needs to “get over it” any nation can join NATO. Anyone can deploy missiles on Russians border. “Deal with it pal”

Yeah thats really being mature and keeping the peace ay?

Because thats how ALL us everyday adults deal with serious threats in our neighbourhoods. This is the approach to “not” escalating tensions... I mean Russia is a nuclear superpower... you’d think you would want to give them just a teeny bit more space guys... maybe not deploy missiles on their back garden.

Just saying

* - Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu confirmed on Monday that the Russian and Ukrainian Foreign Ministers will meet in Antalya on Thursday. This will mark the first meeting between the two since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began on February 24

* - Ukrainian forces claim to have downed a Russian Athlon Avia's A1-SM Furia in Nizhyn area. [Thanks to @AuroraIntel for ID]

* - Blinken says NATO looking at more permanent deployments in the Baltics. "We're continuously reviewing within NATO our defense posture, including questions of extending the deployment of forces, looking at questions of more permanent deployments," he told reporters from Lithuania

* - Russian Navy Project 22160 patrol ship Vasily Bykov reportedly targeted in GRAD shelling in Black Sea last night

* - No one was injured in the attack on the seaport of Olvia

* - Russian supply convoy ambushed in Kharkiv region

* - 4 killed, 15 wounded as result of shelling on Hazar supermarket at Academic Volter street in Kharkiv yesterday

* - Shelling with mortars targeting Avdiyivka

* - Consequences of the air strike near the Heroes of the Heavenly Hundred Square in Kharkiv (Telegram photo / Safe)

* - Based on this new wreckage, jet taken down yesterday over Kharkiv identified as Su-34 "Fullback" fighter-bomber. One crew member was captured

* - Aerial bombardment now targeting Derevyanko street/Pavlove Pole in Kharkiv

* - Russian army column ambushed in Luhansk region

* - Mykolaiv International airport has been cleared of Russian troops - head of regional administration

* - Civil defense in Dokuchaevske of Kharkiv region removing unexploded ordnance

* - Demonstration in Skadovs'k in support of Ukraine (Telegram photos / Safe)

* - Russian army shelling residential district Balabanovka in Mykolaiv - (Twitter video / Safe)

* - 15:40 (Minsk time) Two Mi-8 and Mi-26 helicopters took off from Machulishchy, flying southeast

* - Explosion audible in Kharkiv: Saltovka, Odeska street

* - Tokmak, Zaporizhia Oblast, protest against Russian occupation

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

* - German Chancellor Scholz says EU energy needs can't be secured without Russian imports, no plans to suspend them (SMH)

* - Abandoned Russian army military vehicles after clashes today in Mariupol

* - Residential apartments block is on fire at Krasnodarska street in Kharkiv after shelling

* - EU ambassadors are now discussing the EU accession application by Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova. it will likely end with the ams asking the European Commission on an assessment of the trio[

* - Russian army abandoned SAM Pantsyr in Mykolaiv

* - New round of talks between Russia and Ukraine to start shortly in Belarus - aide to head of Presidential office of Ukraine Podolyak

* - A large truck has crashed through the gates of the Russian embassy in south Dublin. One man has been arrested (Twitter video / Safe)

* - Russian shelling targeted old church in Zavorychi village of Kyiv region (Twitter video / Safe)

* - Fire reported in the area of Lavina Mall near Kyiv

* - 13 dead, 5 rescued at Makariv bakery in Russian airstrike

* - Ukrainian war journalist Viktor Dudar was killed during battles against Russian invaders near Mykolaiv, said Anton Herashchenko, an advisor to the Head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs

* - Russian fuel convoy ambushed and destroyed by Ukrainian troops near Pryluky east of Kyiv

* - A US official: We do not have a ready number of F-16 fighters to be delivered to countries that may supply fighter jets to Ukraine.

* - Melitopol Mayor Ivan Fedorov said that the Russian troops seized the city TV tower and radio tower and broadcasting own propaganda now

* - Russian Su-30 reportedly shotdown near Popasna

* - SOCOM MC130J Commando II 09-5713 departed 31st Tactical Air Base Poland

* - US assesses Russia, "Mr. Putin has committed nearly 100% of his [pre-staged] combat power to Ukraine, per senior US defense official. Russia's also launched +625 missiles, most are medium & short range surface to air missiles & cruise missiles, per official

* - 500 additional US troops being sent to Europe, per senior US defense official. Includes refueling personnel. Brings total 100,000 US military personal stationed and/or deployed to Europe, per the official

* - No indication Russia preparing to move battalion tactical groups from elsewhere to shore up what they've put into Ukraine, per senior US defense official

* - Putin "is creating a flow of refugees" but no indications he is weaponizing those refugee flows like Belarus did earlier, per senior US defense official

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

a reply to: ISeekTruth101

We pulled out of the agreement AFTER catching russia red handed completely ignoring the agreement the whole time.

Go complain to putin about it, HE ended the agreement, NOT us.




Stopped reading right there.

Why would anyone bother after that whopper?

* - NATO Deputy Secretary General @NATO, @Mircea_Geoana, on the war in Ukraine: "We have thousands of troops from Europe and the United States. It's an unprecedented reinforcement on the eastern flank"

* - A shell crater in Krasnosilka near Odesa

* - The European Commission is drawing up a 4th EU sanctions package on Russia. On the table is various options such as a ban on maritime traffic, more banks under SWIFT (though not Sberbank apparently), coal, oil & more oligarchs to be listed

* - Ukrainian delegation: some positive movements on logistics of humanitarian corridors after talks with Russia in Belarus

* - The Ukrainian negotiating delegation: The third round of negotiations with Russia did not produce results that could improve the situation

* - Destroyed Russian APC in Vasylivka, Zaporizhiye region

* - In Staromayorsk, Russian army take away people's food, fuel and equipment

* - Mykolaiv Governor: 8 Ukrainian soldiers were killed in a Russian air strike today

* - Explosion in north of the Zhytomyr

* - Residential building targeted today in Zabuchhia

* - Shelling targeting Lysychansk

* - .@POTUS held a secure video call today with President Macron, Chancellor Scholz, and Prime Minister Johnson. The leaders affirmed their determination to continue raising the costs on Russia for its unprovoked and unjustified invasion of Ukraine

* - 2 Russian Airstrikes targeted oil depots in Zhytomyr and Chernyahiv village, no casualties

* - Ukrainian Armed Forces report 2 Russian aircraft shot down at 20:30 and 21:10 near Kyiv

* - Derhachi, Kharkiv region: 3 civilians killed, 15 wounded, including 4y.o. child as result of shelling on the community during the day

* - Explosion again audible in Kharkiv. Take cover now

* - A column of smoke is seen in Rechitsa, near the river Dnieper

* - Israeli FM: This evening, I met with @SecBlinken and @StateDept staff to discuss the situation in Ukraine as well as the nuclear talks in Vienna

* - 4 fixed-wing aircraft (likely Belarussian) and 91 helicopters at Machulishchy Air Base in Belarus, yesterday 06 Mar 2022. The amount of helicopters, including 15x Mi-26, vastly exceed the size of the flag-Belarus Air Force, so they are likely Russian

* - Re: sending jets to backfill Polish jets: "We are working through some pretty complicated logistics on that front including how we would backfill because returning new planes and transferring serious weapon systems often takes years to do from the United States." -White House

* - "As the Russians continue to get frustrated & slow down.they continue to rely more now on what we would call long-range fires" per @PentagonPresSec. That use of long-range strikes vs Ukraine cities is causing more casualties to civilians, he adds

* - The US envoy to the Security Council: An immediate cessation of hostilities is necessary to meet humanitarian needs

* - U.S. envoy to the United Nations: UNICEF has confirmed the killing of dozens of children, and we believe that the number is greater

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

* - US Ambassador to the Security Council: It is clear that Putin has a plan to destroy and terrorize Ukraine

* - Aid to help Ukraine forces "continues to flow" into Ukraine, says @PentagonPresSec without providing details

* - "Air space over Ukraine️ remains contested," says @PentagonPresSec,-Russian forces continue to fly their aircraft but do not have control of the skies, he adds

* - Explosions in Odesa

* - Recent footage from the eyes of the Bayraktar TB2 drone in the hands of the Ukrainian military. A 9K317 Buk-M2 TELAR, part of the infamous convoy, completely destroyed

* - Putin says will not send conscripts or reservists to Ukraine - (This event is known propaganda, displayed for awareness)

* - President Zelensky decided to recall Ukrainian peacekeepers - from all missions in the world. Together with the equipment

* - Twitter is currently experiencing outages in multiple countries; incident not related to country-level internet disruptions or filtering

* - At night, the Russian army launched air strikes on the Sumy region. In Sumy, several houses were destroyed, some were killed, including children, - The head of the regional state administration Dmytro Zhyvytskyi reported

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

originally posted by: Valhall
a reply to: Silcone Synapse

This is what has been explained to me. This is not my area of expertise, so critique at will.

The UKR blocked Russian sims, and the Russians in their ignorance destroyed all the 3g/4g towers in Ukraine. Encryption requires digital processing, and 2G is analog. So the Russians have no way to secure their communications.

That is just bad staff work on the Russian side.

originally posted by: ISeekTruth101
Nation by nation, Russia watches as USA + NATO assimilated Estonia, Latvia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Lithuania, Slovenia, Croatia, Albania, Montenegro all during the same time period as the missile deployments.


But it seems we now live in a world where these facts just don’t make it into Fox news, or some people maybe aware but so over idealistic as to say “so what?” Russia needs to “get over it” any nation can join NATO. Anyone can deploy missiles on Russians border. “Deal with it pal”

Independent sovereign nations can choose their own path, friends and allies. Since almost all of E. Europe was occupied territory by Russia throughout the cold war, when they got out from under the Soviets / Russian thumb they had no desire to go back, neither willingly nor unwillingly. So those countries applied for NATO membership and were approved. NATO can NOT assimilate countries (may I suggest you learn how NATO processes work).

Maybe Russia should not occupy, annex or invade sovereign nations. Putin has been one of the greatest ad campaigns on why countries should think about joining NATO. For all of the cold war and then some Sweden and Finland were neutral. With Putin throwing temper tantrums he has successfully pushed Finland and Sweden into NATO.

Nuclear weapons do not make a country a superpower. How do we know this - Israel, Pakistan, India, N. Korea, Russia, china, France, United Kingdom...

Putin, even though he likes to blame everything on others (and his made up history that you could find in science fiction novels), has no one else to blame but himself.

and if we learned one thing from Russia's invasion of Ukraine it is this -

Russia is not a superpower

... just saying