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a reply to: BigfootNZ


"Does this honestly sound like the actions of the winners in all this?"


Nope.

Indicates the exact opposite.

a reply to: frogs453

Is it just me or did that fire seem to double in intensity about a minute ago?

originally posted by: Tagz
If Russia can't have Ukraine no one can.

Ummmm, Ukraine already belongs to the Ukranians and the Ukranian government.... they arent no one.

originally posted by: frogs453
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Thank you Frogs.



This is absolute madness.

Everyone understand now?

Anyone wanting to call themselves Russian Patriot needs to go deal with Russia's putin idiot RIGHT now.

Your tyrant just intentionally dirty bombed Europe.

On live TV.

There is ZERO DOUBT.



You KNOW what happens if you don't, and NOBODY wants that.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: frogs453
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Thank you Frogs.



This is absolute madness.

Everyone understand now?

Anyone wanting to call themselves Russian Patriot needs to go deal with Russia's putin idiot RIGHT now.

Your tyrant just intentionally dirty bombed Europe.

On live TV.

There is ZERO DOUBT.



You KNOW what happens if you don't, and NOBODY wants that.

You read my mind.

originally posted by: Silcone Synapse

Ths is insanity.

Quite.

An insanity that we saw coming in slow motion, knew was going to happen, didn;t want to have happen......

and it happened anyway.

a reply to: WeDemBoyz

I might have missed that, trying to watch, read, etc.

A Ukrainian authority did state if there was a failure or Breach it would be Chernobyl x10

ETA. It does appear fire in more areas. Was where they panned the camera previously but now in main view too.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: BigfootNZ

Each Russia Ruble is now worth less that 1 U.S. Penny.

www.41nbc.com...

Tell me about it... 1 rubble is currently around 0.013 NZ cents... and our own dollar is about 0.60 compared to the US lol.

Interestingly, some of the other stuff ive read around the net, it seems the way the Russian commanders and officers are treating the dead and or badly wounded soldiers under their command (supposedly killing their own badly wounded to 'help' them and leaving bodies behind) mean few if or any of that 'bribe' money Putlers offering is EVER gonna be payed out to anyone, although from what ive read thats just part of the coarse in grand old Russian in terms of military compensations etc.

Utter scum.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
Anyone wanting to call themselves Russian Patriot needs to go deal with Russia's putin idiot RIGHT now.

My brother read a few things indicating some of the cream at the top of Russia may possibly have started moving their families etc out of the country (to Georgia and the like), if thats true then something might be brewing internally... we can only hope.

a reply to: alphabetaone


I'm getting tired of watching slow motion train wrecks.

Sure you are too.

STILL nobody listens.

What is this like 10 in a row now?

What the actual F is wrong with half the planet's humans?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

I wish i knew brother.

Is it social media?
Is there a surplus of idiots?

Right now? My feelings about Putin are somewhere along the lines of the below:

Elevated radiation levels detected at the plant, per the associated press.

nationalpost.com...

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
What the actual F is wrong with half the planet's humans?

I think thats being harsh... if anything this whole load of bollocks has shown that the large large majority of the world is actually fed up and completely disinterested in War and war makers, regardless of most of our political/religious back grounds or beliefs.

Which to me at least gives me a little smile... how long that glow of 'unification' in global condemnation lasts is up in the air, and from history it tends to wane fairly quickly. **fingers crossed**

Sky news repeated that line that if the nuclear materials on the site get hit its 10x worse than chernobyl,according to a sokesman from the plant.
They also said the plant was not operating "due to being renovated." which was different to the Wiki page which said 4 of 6 reactors were operating.
They also said the plant was being shelled "from all sides."

Who TF would carry out the order to bomb a nuke plant?
should be a war crime IMO

If Russia are intent on destroying that,they are in for the long game-that plant supplys a quarter of Ukraines electricity,so if they are going to beseige the main cities this makes it easier to cut the power.
But at what cost?

Ukraine Nuclear sensors Map-

www.saveecobot.com.../48.118/33.212/gamma/comp+cams+fire

* - Users Report issues with App Store and Google Play Store apps in Russia

* - Canadian Prime Minister: Russia's brutal attack threatens peace and order around the world

* - According to the data of General Staff of UA Army, as of 00:00 EET on March 3, out of 117 completed and equipped BTGs for the attack on Ukraine, no more than 6 remain which are not now in Ukraine

* - An official in the Ukrainian city of Kherson warns that the city will run out of food within days

* - President Duda: "We will not give up, even if the Russians surround us in Kyiv. If they start a city blockade, they will end up like the Nazis besieging Leningrad in WW II. They will not break us and they will go away in disgrace as criminals." - said to me @ZelenskyyUa this evening

* - Facebook, BBC & Meduza websites blocked in Russia - @globalchecknet

* - The @meduzaproject website has been blocked in Russia

* - Ukraine granted TPS(Temporary Protected Status) for 18 months, announces @DHSgov

* - Explosion rocked Kyiv

* - The possible wreckage of a Russian Su-34 bomber in Irpin

* - FM Dmytro Kuleba:When Russians can't achieve real goals, they focus on fake TV coverage. Having seized a TV tower in Kherson, they plan a show: Russian troops provide humanitarian aid while fake 'locals' brought in from Crimea stage a fake 'demo' in favor of Kherson region 'uniting' with Crimea

* - European diplomatic sources: The Ukrainian army is making tactical progress

* - Shelling on Chernobaevja base last night

* - Airstrike targeted Oleksiivka village in Kharkiv region

* - Photo: Frigate Hetman Sahaidachny submerged after damaged by Ukrainian navy

* - British Defense Ministry: The illegal and unjustified Russian attack on Ukraine continues

* - Based on "information available", the command of a unit of Belarusian paratroopers has received an order to cross the border into Ukraine, according to a Ukrainian update on Russia's invasion. A combat order would be made after the crossing, it said, without giving dates

* - Severodonetsk, Kharkiv, and Izyum are currently under Russian artillery shelling

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

www.theguardian.com...
The Guardian’s Julian Borger has spoken to Mariana Budjeryn, an Ukrainian expert at the project on managing the atom at Harvard University’s Belfer Center.

Budjeryn said:

Saying that a reactor building is hit doesn’t tell us much, because the most vulnerable [part of] this is the electricity and water supply.

If the electricity is taken out, the back up generators kick in, but if those don’t kick in or their diesel fuel is set on fire, for example, the pumps can’t pump cold water into the reactor and into the spent fuel pools. That’s necessary to keep the nuclear reaction moderated. Otherwise the water will boil out and the core will go critical and explode.

If the core explodes, there’s hope that the confinement chamber will capture the radiation from release into the environment. Confinement chambers are designed with withstand some level of impact even bombing.

But of course we don’t know how they will stand to this intensity of shelling

BUT spent fuel pools - the fuel there is not as active, but they are usually overstuffed - so less active but more tightly packed material, also dangerous for going critical if the cooling system fails. And spent fuel pools are not covered by hardened concrete confinement chambers.

We learned about how vulnerable spent fuel pools are during Fukushima

The backup generators failed and the water pumping system failed - it was lucky that ocean water flooded those and the reactor cores to provide cooling.”

originally posted by: BigfootNZ

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
What the actual F is wrong with half the planet's humans?

I think thats being harsh... if anything this whole load of bollocks has shown that the large large majority of the world is actually fed up and completely disinterested in War and war makers, regardless of most of our political/religious back grounds or beliefs.

Which to me at least gives me a little smile... how long that glow of 'unification' in global condemnation lasts is up in the air, and from history it tends to wane fairly quickly. **fingers crossed**

I agree completely.

Half.

Half are rising to the occasion in spectacular fashion.



The other half?

I'm a pacifist at heart so just don't know what to say about them.

Except that it isn't funny anymore.

* - Fighting in Bucha and on the outskirts of Vorzel has been going on for more than 6 hours

* - Videos of today's bombing in Zatoka

* - 22:36, Mozyr: launch of ballistic missile Iskander

* - Planes and explosions can be heard over Kharkiv - stay in shelters

* - Clashes in Enerhodar near Zaporizhiye Nuclear Power Plant

* - Protest against Russian occupation in Svatove, Luhansk

* - President Joe Biden's administration on Thursday announced new sanctions against Russian oligarchs and others in President Putin's inner circle as Russian forces continue to pummel Ukraine

* - Chernihiv On the territory of State Enterprise "Kombinat Aystra" during the shelling, a projectile hit the oil depot, resulting in a fire in the tank group with a total capacity of 3 thousand cubic meters of diesel fuel. Information on victims and injured is being clarified

* - The Pentagon on Tuesday established a deconfliction line to communicate with the Russian Ministry of Defense "for the purposes of preventing miscalculation, military incidents, and escalation," a defense official tells

* - Ukrainian Foreign Minister: Russia is superior to us in the air, and our partners must make a decision and provide us with combat aircraft

* - Air raid sirens sound across Kyiv

* - A U.S. Special Operations official monitoring the conflict in Ukraine told Connecting Vets that he had seen estimates of 280 Russian armored vehicles taken out by the Javelin as of this writing, out of 300 total missiles fired

* - Russia firing indiscriminately in Ukraine, says @POTUS during Cabinet meeting

* - Usmanov's superyacht and aircraft designated "as blocked property," announces @USTreasury OFAC (which is releasing helpful photos)

* - ISI reveals: Minsk, Belarus and southwestern Russia, Gathering of aircraft (attack helicopters, fighter jets and cargo planes) at several bases near the Ukrainian border (The only ISI im aware of is Pakistan Intelligence)

* - The White House announces they're sanctioning seven more Russian oligarchs, their family members, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov and will also impose visa restrictions on 19 oligarchs and 47 of their family members and close associates

* - Czech Republic Govt and President agreed - Czechs who want to fight for Ukraine can join the battle and won't be prosecuted after coming back in the country

* - Special forces of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine destroyed 10 more enemy BMD in Hostomel. The battle for control over the city of Hostomel continues

* - As a result of the shelling in Toretsk on March 3, the low-pressure gas pipeline was damaged, 2 gas distribution points were cut off, gas supply to all 19 boiler houses of the city was cut off, leaving 400 houses (over 15,000 subscribers), 8 secondary schools and 9 children's educational institutions and 10 medical institutions

* - Russian forces are now attacking Energodar. That's the site of probably Europe's biggest nuclear power station

* - Bomb dropped on Kalynivka village of Kyiv region did not exploded

* - The second round of talks between Ukraine and Russia is over - Podoliak. Ukraine did not get the results it hoped for, said an adviser to the head of the Office of President. According to him, the parties agreed on humanitarian corridors for evacuation of people and delivery of medicines in the areas of the most active hostilities, as well as a temporary ceasefire during the evacuation. The third round of talks is to take place in the near future.

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

originally posted by: WeDemBoyz

The Guardian’s Julian Borger has spoken to Mariana Budjeryn, an Ukrainian expert at the project on managing the atom at Harvard University’s Belfer Center.

Budjeryn said:

Saying that a reactor building is hit doesn’t tell us much, because the most vulnerable [part of] this is the electricity and water supply.

If the electricity is taken out, the back up generators kick in, but if those don’t kick in or their diesel fuel is set on fire, for example, the pumps can’t pump cold water into the reactor and into the spent fuel pools. That’s necessary to keep the nuclear reaction moderated. Otherwise the water will boil out and the core will go critical and explode.

If the core explodes, there’s hope that the confinement chamber will capture the radiation from release into the environment. Confinement chambers are designed with withstand some level of impact even bombing.

But of course we don’t know how they will stand to this intensity of shelling

BUT spent fuel pools - the fuel there is not as active, but they are usually overstuffed - so less active but more tightly packed material, also dangerous for going critical if the cooling system fails. And spent fuel pools are not covered by hardened concrete confinement chambers.

We learned about how vulnerable spent fuel pools are during Fukushima

The backup generators failed and the water pumping system failed - it was lucky that ocean water flooded those and the reactor cores to provide cooling.”

sorry, i thought i heard they had a kill switch and the fire fighters were coming under fire.

fox news.

* - In Kherson Russian army seized premises of Kherson Suspilne broadcaster. Possible fakes

* - .@ZelenskyyUa "If you can't close the sky now, then give a deadline when it will happen.If you can't do it now, tell how many people have to explode,how many arms, legs, heads have to fly to reach you Tell me how many. I'll go to count and wait for this moment."

* - Ukrainian army, territorial defense units destroyed Russian column near Voznesensk

* - Updated toll of airstrikes in Chernihiv: 33 killed, 18 wounded. Due to renewed attacks first responders had to halt rescue operation

* - Zelensky asked the West to send military planes to fight the Russian invasion, "otherwise the Russians will go to the Berlin Wall"

* - Putin at Russian security council states that the war in Ukraine is ongoing according to the plan and schedule

* - Russian army fired on Kharkiv again: houses at Pivnicha Saltivka and Korotych airfield destroyed

* - Chemical enterprise caught fire in Chaika village near Bucha after shelling

* - Putin starts a new meeting with members of the Security Council of the Russian Federation

* - Allegedly 9M728 Iskander targeted area of Vydubychi

* - Both Georgia and Moldova apply to join the European Union

* - French Interior Minister: EU member states have agreed on measures to protect refugees fleeing Ukraine

* - The Pentagon judges that 90% of the Russian force gathered on Ukraine's borders ten days ago has now entered the country. The first phase of their operation has happened and they are stalled

* - Heavy bombardment in cities across Ukraine north-Kyiv, Cherniv , Russians just outside Kharkiv -per Sr US Def official, but Russians appear stalled. Convoy is stalled. Ukrainian air space still contested; >480 Russian missile launches of all sizes &stripes

* - Rescuers working after shelling targeted and damaged multiple civilians building in Pivnnichna Saltivka in Kharkiv

* - Kyiv today: rescuers continue service under shelling

* - Shelling targeting Mariupol

* - Ukrainian President: Flying in Ukrainian airspace must be banned because the bombing targets civilians

* - Chernihiv: As of 3:30 p.m., the bodies of 22 people were extracted from the rubble as a result of air strikes. Rescue work continues

* - Russian troops assaulting Enerhodar town with over 100 vehicles, attacking civilian population - Mayor Dmytro Orlov

* - Power station and railway station destroyed in Okhtyrka in airstrike

* - Ukraine-Russia talks started in Belarus (10 hours ago)

* - Violent clashes near Bucha and inside town for over 4 hours

* - Russian aircraft attack two schools in Chernihiv and private homes - nine dead and four injured

* - A plane was shot down near Belgorod-Dniester, pilot ejected. Mayor of the town asking citizens to locate him

* - Verkhovna Rada today imposed life imprisonment for looting, sabotage, treason, approved the nationalization of Russian property and approved Zelensky's decree on mobilization

* - Panama-registered Estonia-owned general cargo vessel HELT imo:8402589 has sunk in Black Sea near Odesa after allegedly hit by seamine. 2 crewmembers rescued. 4 unaccounted

* - Projectile has fallen at Zatoka of Odesa region, no casualties

* - Dashcam footage of a strike in Chernihiv. Location: 51.499511, 31.277672. Geolocation by @hengenahm at @Cen4infoRes

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception