Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: Xcathdra

I think it's just ambient nose. No worries there. Trust me, keep your volume down on those feeds or you will be blasted when the air raid sirens go off. Don't ask me how I know. *ears still ringing*

a reply to: TrueAmerican

huh.. ambient nose. and its not even allergy season where I am yet. Ill keep a box of tissues at the ready in case my nose blows my ears out

a reply to: TrueAmerican


Has there EVER been an attack on an operational nuke facility?

I can't think of any.


Until what russia just repeatedly did of course.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: TrueAmerican


Has there EVER been an attack on an operational nuke facility?

I can't think of any.


Until what russia just repeatedly did of course.

Israel vs Iran count?

www.jstor.org...

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originally posted by: AngelsDecay

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: TrueAmerican


Has there EVER been an attack on an operational nuke facility?

I can't think of any.


Until what russia just repeatedly did of course.

Israel vs Iran count?

Perhaps the stuxnet attack, but that isn't really the same as exploding a facility.

originally posted by: AngelsDecay

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: TrueAmerican


Has there EVER been an attack on an operational nuke facility?

I can't think of any.


Until what russia just repeatedly did of course.

Israel vs Iran count?

Israel only has research reactors and no power generation facilities. I thought of that also.

* - The White House backs final passage of the Senate's cyber bill, telling @CBSNews the legislation "will enable the government to better investigate, mitigate & further prevent cyber-attacks" amid crisis in Ukraine

Operation Opera

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originally posted by: AngelsDecay
Operation Opera

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Not operational.

Not even a completed facility.

Nope. Remember, OPERATIONAL. As far as I know, there never has been a direct military attack on a reactor in operation, with the possibility of radioactive contamination until now. And even in this one, it appears the damage to units 1 and 2 may have been collateral. They COULD have hit the reactors themselves. I don't think anyone has any doubts about that with their ability to precision strike. That question was settled with the air tower for sure... But it's not like there was really a question of that ability anyway.

Now if they DO hit the reactors, and nuke spills everywhere... ahh, my vote will be immediately to nuke Moscow. And have Macron or the UK do it, hehe. Or at the very least attack one of theirs and let Moscow sort out the aftermath. That would be proportional, right?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
* - The White House backs final passage of the Senate's cyber bill, telling @CBSNews the legislation "will enable the government to better investigate, mitigate & further prevent cyber-attacks" amid crisis in Ukraine

The crap that gets passed.

Im sure this will be yet another tool in the belt of the NSA apparatus.

originally posted by: AngelsDecay
Operation Opera

en.wikipedia.org...

Yeah the criteria his wife set was operational.

Update 9 – IAEA Director General Statement on the situation in Ukraine

Ukraine informed the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) today that a large number of Russian tanks and infantry “broke through the block-post” to the town of Enerhodar, a few kilometres from the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP), Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi said.

In an urgent letter to the Director General, the Ukraine regulatory authority added that Russian infantry troops were moving directly towards the site of Ukraine’s largest nuclear power plant. “The battle is going on in the town of Enerhodar and on the road to the ZNPP (Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant) site,” it said, adding that the situation was “critical”.

Director General Grossi appealed for an immediate halt to the use of force at Enerhodar and called on the military forces operating there to refrain from violence near the nuclear power plant. He said the IAEA continues to consult with Ukraine and others with a view to provide maximum possible assistance to the country as it seeks to maintain nuclear safety and security in the current difficult circumstances.

This is a stark contrast to what happened at Chernobyl. Update 8 mentions that Ukraine has 15 nuclear reactors at 4 sites.

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a reply to: majesticgent

The citizens and workers in the towns with nuke plants should all wear MOPP gear and dont explain it to the Russians and just walk around like everything is ok normal.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican

Now if they DO hit the reactors, and nuke spills everywhere... ahh, my vote will be immediately to nuke Moscow.

Same.

But remember it won't be just moscow.

U.S. doctrine is immediate and complete glassing of the entire country and all assets worldwide, including all orbital assets.

Zero survivors if possible.

No interest in playing counter strike games.



We just can't go there until forced.

And MUST do everything possible to prevent being forced.

a reply to: Xcathdra

It just seems next-level stupid to attack close to a nuclear reactor building...

originally posted by: majesticgent
a reply to: Xcathdra

It just seems next-level stupid to attack close to a nuclear reactor building...

well it is Russia... If Putins head and ego get any larger he will be mistaken as a fugitive from Easter island.

* - Czech Republic Govt and President agreed - Czechs who want to fight for Ukraine can join the battle and won't be prosecuted after coming back in the country

* - European diplomatic sources: The Ukrainian army is making tactical progress

* - Photo: Frigate Hetman Sahaidachny submerged after damaged by Ukrainian navy

a reply to: Xcathdra

Did you even consider Moscow is trying to force a ceasefire?
or is that too pro-Russia for you?

Renewed Russian artillery attacks on Mariupol
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