Father Plagued with Guilt after 10yr old Son Suddenly Has Heart Attach While Playing at School

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: interupt42

Here:

"Two weeks after receiving the experimental drug the young boy who is only only ten years old died of a heart attack".

Here where?

1. Which part of that is incorrect?

2. Where does the OP in that says yes it was the vaccine or suggest it was definitely the jab? He was doing what you are suppose to do when you create a thread on ATS and give a description of what the video was about.

3. That was the comment made by the father who has the actual medical history of his child and the facts of what occurred that led to the incident.

The previous user who said it wasn't the vaccine without knowing any information about the child's history and or medical records is forming a bias hypothesis with nothing to back it up but his bias. The father on the other hand who clearly wasn't an anti vaxer like the other poster suggested has insider information.

So again we don't have enough information to claim it was the jab but its certainly suspect enough for the vaccinated father to suggest it might be .

The only thing I see wrong here is the people unwillingness to even consider it as a possibility per what the father is saying assuming he isn't straight out lying. Its not like it isn't already known that the jab can and has caused heart problems and on boys specifically .

But it's what you do if you're an anti vaxer with no receipts.

You claim everyone who is dying is dying from the shot.

You lie. And you go to sleep at night, knowing that you are a liar.

a reply to: canucks555

I am vaxxed (mandates) and had SERIOUS complications, still some.

You lie, is what I take away from your post, because side effects and complications just don't exist for you guys. Also people like me do not exist who have a med. history on reacting violently to flue shots.

So, you can blow up my shoes as I struggle with menstrual bleeding still. And you make it your mission denying such cases. You disgust me. Do you have any idea how insecure one feels in public because you.. anytime?

Respectless.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: canucks555

I am vaxxed (mandates) and had SERIOUS complications, still some.

You lie, is what I take away from your post, because side effects and complications just don't exist for you guys. Also people like me do not exist who have a med. history on reacting violently to flue shots.

So, you can blow up my shoes as I struggle with menstrual bleeding still. And you make it your mission denying such cases. You disgust me. Do you have any idea how insecure one feels in public because you.. anytime?

Respectless.

76,862,555 total doses given

7678 serious adverse effects.

0.010 %

health-infobase.canada.ca...

How about we take a break from the whole "everyone who is dying is dying from the vax" BS.

The numbers (0.010%) are acceptable when it comes to keeping people out of the icu.

I'm sorry about your reaction but it hardly should mean that everyone shouldn't take the vaccine. It's like saying that you shouldn't take a plane because there's a 0.00012% chance it might crash.

originally posted by: canucks555

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: interupt42

Here:

"Two weeks after receiving the experimental drug the young boy who is only only ten years old died of a heart attack".

Here where?

1. Which part of that is incorrect?

2. Where does the OP in that says yes it was the vaccine or suggest it was definitely the jab? He was doing what you are suppose to do when you create a thread on ATS and give a description of what the video was about.

3. That was the comment made by the father who has the actual medical history of his child and the facts of what occurred that led to the incident.

The previous user who said it wasn't the vaccine without knowing any information about the child's history and or medical records is forming a bias hypothesis with nothing to back it up but his bias. The father on the other hand who clearly wasn't an anti vaxer like the other poster suggested has insider information.

So again we don't have enough information to claim it was the jab but its certainly suspect enough for the vaccinated father to suggest it might be .

The only thing I see wrong here is the people unwillingness to even consider it as a possibility per what the father is saying assuming he isn't straight out lying. Its not like it isn't already known that the jab can and has caused heart problems and on boys specifically .

But it's what you do if you're an anti vaxer with no receipts.

You claim everyone who is dying is dying from the shot.

You lie. And you go to sleep at night, knowing that you are a liar.

What in the world are you talking about?

First I'm not anti vaxer and my wife is vaxed but I'm against forcing or coercing people to take a drug that there is no long term studies , nor does it prevent the virus, nor does it stop you from getting the virus and it has a 98% survival rate for most.

Where have I made such a claim everyone is dying form the shot?

I go to sleep just fine every night because I'm not supporting a gov't/corporation that is forcing people by coercion to take a jab that does not prevent them from getting the virus nor stop the spread of the virus for something that has a 98% survival rate for most.

a reply to: dragonridr




" almost led to his son’s death "

Still , He was a Victim of Propaganda that Led to the Endangerment of his Sons Life . He Believed the LIES and Suffered the Consequences of " Almost " Losing a Son . What Difference does it Make ?

I had a friend that had a sudden heart attack and died when he was 11 years old.

He had a congenital heart issue that no one caught until he died.

That was nearly 20 years ago.

This is rare, but not impossible.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

If it were the vax he'd likely have been experiencing symptoms for some time before he collapsed. The vax has never been known to cause sudden heart attacks, he'd have experienced breathlessness, palpitations, and several other things beforehand.

Children, especially boys, do suddenly die like this. It's usually through existing heart conditions.

Using a family's tragedy to push anti-vax conspiracies is wrong in more ways than I know how to describe.

Denying the proven dangers and side effects of these worthless poisons is likely to get even more people killed.
And it isn't "anti vax", it's anti covid experimental jabs.

Actual real vaccines are good. Yeah, the kind that actually protect from diseases.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

If it were the vax he'd likely have been experiencing symptoms for some time before he collapsed. The vax has never been known to cause sudden heart attacks, he'd have experienced breathlessness, palpitations, and several other things beforehand.

Children, especially boys, do suddenly die like this. It's usually through existing heart conditions.

Using a family's tragedy to push anti-vax conspiracies is wrong in more ways than I know how to describe.

Denying the proven dangers and side effects of these worthless poisons is likely to get even more people killed.
And it isn't "anti vax", it's anti covid experimental jabs.

Actual real vaccines are good. Yeah, the kind that actually protect from diseases.

Real vaccines provide immunity for the recipient, these fake vaccines provide immunity from lawsuits for big pharma.

What "vaccine" do you have to take 3 or 4 times and still get the virus? Imagine asking that question 2 years ago, you'd get laughed out of the room. Unfortunately big pharma has conditioned people to think this is a reasonable thing.

Clown world.

a reply to: canucks555

One problem with trusting the official numbers..

At base I left this last oct, up to that point we had zero covid deaths once the mandates came down we had a physically fit middle aged SNCO with no known health problems. (this is what a friend in med group told me) dropped dead of a massive heart attack bout 4 days after injection #2.

When we were briefed about it, it was briefed as most likely a bad reaction to the vaccine. Official report listed it as an undisclosed health problem.

*shrugs* seems odd that everyone who was actually boots on the ground said X, and higher ups said Y and Y just happened to fit the presidents narrative.

Yes this is anecdotal, but it does show a flaw in the blind trust of the official numbers, we also have in the states significant numbers of people that died with covid listed as covid deaths. If they will slew the numbers, there why would they not slew the numbers with listing adverse reactions?

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: canucks555

One problem with trusting the official numbers..

At base I left this last oct, up to that point we had zero covid deaths once the mandates came down we had a physically fit middle aged SNCO with no known health problems. (this is what a friend in med group told me) dropped dead of a massive heart attack bout 4 days after injection #2.

When we were briefed about it, it was briefed as most likely a bad reaction to the vaccine. Official report listed it as an undisclosed health problem.

*shrugs* seems odd that everyone who was actually boots on the ground said X, and higher ups said Y and Y just happened to fit the presidents narrative.

Yes this is anecdotal, but it does show a flaw in the blind trust of the official numbers, we also have in the states significant numbers of people that died with covid listed as covid deaths. If they will slew the numbers, there why would they not slew the numbers with listing adverse reactions?

The CDC even admitted that only 6% of the "covid deaths" are WITH COVID and not FROM COVID. This is a pretty big distinction because according to their protocol if you die within 28 days of a covid positive test, it's listed as a covid death. The flu was never handled this way in the past. Only 6% of these deaths are FROM COVID.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
The flu was never handled this way in the past.

Yes, it was.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

ETA: On second thought, no, it was even worse because they couldn't even say someone died WITH flu, they just assumed it.

a reply to: canucks555

I'm honestly questioning whether the total doses given is a valid data point. How do you check that? You just have to believe the numbers being published. Is that number including the 3rd or 4th booster? If it is including boosters you can knock that number down by 1/3 to 1/4 to get the actual number of people injected. I would say it's very rare that one dose equals one person. Many people had two doses and if you had the first two, why not get the booster. Then the next booster.

Why is it okay that 7,678 (this number is also in question) people had adverse effects? You make it sound like it's a null data point that should just be expected. It's not.

I'm not trying to be a stick in the mud but everything about this pandemic has been lies and cover ups across the board.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Smigg

If it were the vax he'd likely have been experiencing symptoms for some time before he collapsed. The vax has never been known to cause sudden heart attacks, he'd have experienced breathlessness, palpitations, and several other things beforehand.

Children, especially boys, do suddenly die like this. It's usually through existing heart conditions.

Using a family's tragedy to push anti-vax conspiracies is wrong in more ways than I know how to describe.

Denying the proven dangers and side effects of these worthless poisons is likely to get even more people killed.
And it isn't "anti vax", it's anti covid experimental jabs.

Actual real vaccines are good. Yeah, the kind that actually protect from diseases.

The proved danger is around 0.010 percent, which is literally a fraction of a percent. link

And the phizer shot might be experimental where you live but in my home country it's been fully approved for some time now because our system is more efficient than yours.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
And the phizer shot might be experimental where you live but in my home country it's been fully approved for some time now because our system is more efficient than yours.

Their location says near Washington State so it has been approved in their country as well, for about 6 months, although I think "experimental" is a label they won't be letting go of any time soon.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
And the phizer shot might be experimental where you live but in my home country it's been fully approved for some time now because our system is more efficient than yours.

Their location says near Washington State so it has been approved in their country as well, for about 6 months, although I think "experimental" is a label they won't be letting go of any time soon.

They keep moving the goalposts, they'll still be calling experimental in 5 years time, and will demand a 10 year follow up study.

a reply to: canucks555

Sorry, me having medical issues because of your irrational fear is NOT acceptable to me.

Tell that to the parents face, that their sons death is acceptable because you did some numbers and concluded his death is collateral damage.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: canucks555

Sorry, me having medical issues because of your irrational fear is NOT acceptable to me.

Tell that to the parents face, that their sons death is acceptable because you did some numbers and concluded his death is collateral damage.

Quite the opposite, this death is a tragedy, but we need to keep it in perspective in order to avoid scaring people into making dumb choices that hurt more people.

1, we don't know that this death has any connection to the vax at all. It could be a coincidence

2, even if this death was vax related the chance of another person having a serious reaction are approximately 0.010 percent. And that includes non fatal reaction. Source in above comments.

Your Liberal doom porn has caused so much harm. Parents afraid to let thier kids walk down the street because they think that racists and sex offenders are lurking around every corner. TV shows being censored in case people are offended by them, the whole world being wrapped in cotton wool because doom porn has convinced them that the mundane is big and scary.

Exploiting one family's tragedy to promote false fears is frankly sick.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: canucks555

Sorry, me having medical issues because of your irrational fear is NOT acceptable to me.

Tell that to the parents face, that their sons death is acceptable because you did some numbers and concluded his death is collateral damage.

Quite the opposite, this death is a tragedy, but we need to keep it in perspective in order to avoid scaring people into making dumb choices that hurt more people.

1, we don't know that this death has any connection to the vax at all. It could be a coincidence

we also don't know it doesn't.

2, even if this death was vax related the chance of another person having a serious reaction are approximately 0.010 percent. And that includes non fatal reaction. Source in above comments.

still, parents should be warned that this is a possibility to they can make informed decisions.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Your Liberal doom porn has caused so much harm. Parents afraid to let thier kids walk down the street because they think that racists and sex offenders are lurking around every corner. TV shows being censored in case people are offended by them, the whole world being wrapped in cotton wool because doom porn has convinced them that the mundane is big and scary.

Exploiting one family's tragedy to promote false fears is frankly sick.

Almost as bad as pretending it never happened, leaving another child ripe for this kind of damage.

This event is suspect, and should be verified. there is enough data existing to show the vaccines do have the ability to negatively effect young people's heart.

First, myocarditis related to COVID-19 vaccines mostly occurs in young male individuals following the second dose of the vaccine. Second, myocarditis related to COVID vaccines mostly occurs with mRNA vaccines (ie, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines).

is winning control of the narrative worth a child's life?