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The Fight for Election Integrity Continues -- Audits, Criminal Investigations, Legislative Reform

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posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 11:32 AM
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A September 2022 memo summarizing the state probe of the 2020 election in Maricopa County went unreleased by the outgoing attorney general, Mark Brnovich (Arizona Attorney General)


Of the 430 investigations, 22 cases were submitted for prosecution. Agents and support staff have spent more than 10,000 hours investigating allegations of voting irregularities and reviewing alleged instances of illegal voting submitted to our office by private parties. Some of the more
high-profile matters involved Cyber Ninjas Incorporated, True the Vote, Verity Vote, and elected officials. In each instance and in each matter, the aforementioned parties did not provide any evidence to support their allegations. The information that was provided was speculative in many instances and when investigated by our agents and support staff, was found to be inaccurate. With regards to the elected officials we spoke with, they had made public statements asserting voting fraud had occurred and that fraud was a factor in the outcome of the election. When speaking with
our agents and under circumstances where ARS 13.2907.01 (False Reporting to Law
Enforcement Agencies; Classification) could be applicable, the elected officials did not repeat or make such assertions when questioned by our agents.



Wow, glad for the investigation!! They proved Biden won and election was fair. Too bad they didn’t think enough of all you election deniers to share the truth..
10,000 hours of investigations lololol. Who paid for that? Pathetic..



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 11:54 AM
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They proved Biden won and election was fair.

They did nothing of of the kind. At best, they were able to investigate and eliminate some rumors, speculation and suspicions. Perhaps even most rumors, speculation and suspicions.

That's a good thing. And important to know. Not least because it allows honest people to keep their focus and efforts and the real ongoing issues, that have not been explained or justified properly.

Such as the lack of proper -- even adequate -- testing of machines prior to Election Day when 60%+ of machines (predominantly in high Republican areas) malfunctioned.

And the complete absence of legally mandated chain-of-custody documentation and procedures for over 300,000 ballots on Election Day.

And the sudden appearance of 25,000 undocumented ballots after Election Day.

And the low- to non-existent signature verification standards that allowed hundreds of thousands of dubious ballots to be counted.

And the excessively high adjudication rate for ballots, as well as the missing original ballots that should be attached to the adjudicated ballot.

The threats of arrest and prosecution against any election officials who declined to certify results they did not trust.

Yep! There's plenty of known and genuine issues to deal with. We don't need the disinfo and misinfo to cloud the way.



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 12:14 PM
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How do you feel about all those claiming MASSIVE fraud but changed tune when under oath?

Personally, I’d be pissed! Clearly election deniers don’t mind being lied to…

ALL the investigations proved a fair election, it’s funny, imo.


Lol


Mark Finchem, then a state representative who later ran unsuccessfully for secretary of state, had repeatedly claimed that a “source” told him that more than 30,000 fictitious votes had appeared during the general election in a county south of Phoenix. But when questioned by agents, he did not repeat the claim, “specifically stating he did not have any evidence of fraud and that he did not wish to take up our time.” Finchem provided four ballots that he said reflected a flawed voting process, but those ballots had not been counted and were unopened.



Sonny Borrelli, a GOP state senator who had alleged a coverup of election irregularities, did not repeat those claims during an interview but did provide what he said was the name of a deceased voter, the memo stated. Investigators learned that the alleged deceased voter was alive, had not voted and was not a resident of Arizona.




Arizona should be way more concerned about the Colorado river… but, you do you



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 12:36 PM
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How do you feel about all those claiming MASSIVE fraud but changed tune when under oath?

I really don't give a rats' patootie about any or all of the individuals making claims. Whether they had sincere concerns and suspicions or they were just trying to muddy the waters with false rumors and disinfo. Why should I? What matters is that their claims were investigated fairly and thoroughly, and if a crime or other problem is found, that it is dealt with appropriately.


Personally, I’d be pissed! Clearly election deniers don’t mind being lied to…

Election integrity people already know that there are lots of lying liars (and cheating cheaters) out there, and we are beyond pissed. To wallow in pissiness doesn't get the job done. Its only value is in its ability to motivate one to fix the problems and to do better.


ALL the investigations proved a fair election, it’s funny, imo.

So am I understanding you to say that failing to perform mandatory machine testing prior to Election Day is "fair"? And "funny"?

And that failing to perform mandatory chain-of-custody procedures is "fair"? And "funny"?

And that 25,000 ballots appearing out of nowhere is "fair"? And "funny"?

And that ballots with mismatched signatures is "fair"? And "funny"?

And that threatening public officials with arrest and prosecution for objecting to the election results based on their experience and suspicions is "fair"? And "funny"?

Is that what you are saying?
edit on 22-2-2023 by Boadicea because: formatting



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 12:42 PM
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Nope, signatures were verified properly, stop lying.



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 12:48 PM
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mistake and oversight. That responsibility falls on the Arizona Legislature to enact laws that' "secure the purity of elections and guard against abuses of the elective franchise.' " Ariz. Const. art. 7, § 12. Our overall assessment is that the current election system in Maricopa County involving the verification and handling of early ballots is broke (Investigators examined the policy and procedures followed by the MCRO relative to signature verification. SIS staff concluded the MCRO followed its policy/procedures as they relate to signature verification; we did not uncover any criminality or fraud having been committed in this area during the 2020 general election), but the Arizona Legislature can take immediate measures as required by Article 7, Section 12 of the Arizona Constitution to address these shortcomings that we have identified in the system before the 2022 primary and general elections.



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
Nope, signatures were verified properly, stop lying.



Verified by who exactly? or was it by machines with adjustable "accuracy" 😁



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 01:04 PM
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Turns out the 2020 scams that enabled Joe Biden to beat Donald Trump occurred much higher up. The FBI and DHS led the charge.



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
Nope, signatures were verified properly, stop lying.

No, they were not verified properly or in accordance with the law, starting with the fact that the signatures were first transported to a private third-party facility (the ballot printer) with no chain-of-custody documentation and examined via software not authorized under the law and tagged with unauthorized labels...

And ending with my own look at the signatures on file in comparison with the ballot envelope signatures which clearly and obviously did NOT match.

We can factually say that the AG's office (rightly or wrongly) did not find any criminality on any specific individual's part, but we also know that the AG's office stated clearly -- in your quoted excerpt no less -- that their "overall assessment is that the current election system in Maricopa County involving the verification and handling of early ballots is broke...".

Which, of course, includes ballot envelope signatures for those early ballots.
edit on 22-2-2023 by Boadicea because: punctuation



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

Verified by who exactly? or was it by machines with adjustable "accuracy" 😁


Excellent point. The initial evaluations were conducted by machines at Runbeck with flexible standards and criteria, NOT by county election workers as required by law.



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 01:14 PM
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Brnovich’s office compiled an “election review summary “ that debunked all election fraud accusations including signature verification.

Brnovich apparently didn’t think y’all would be able to cope with the summary so he kept it from you, lol.

It coming out now - transparency! Y’all want transparency right??



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 01:16 PM
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You think with 10,000 hours of investigation they didn’t look hard at signature verification? Bless your heart



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 01:20 PM
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Cool!

Maybe we can get Durham’s on that pronto, L O L.



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
Brnovich’s office compiled an “election review summary “ that debunked all election fraud accusations including signature verification.

Brnovich apparently didn’t think y’all would be able to cope with the summary so he kept it from you, lol.

It coming out now - transparency! Y’all want transparency right??


Yes, I sure do want transparency, even when it's pertaining to something I do not want or expect... especially when it's not what I want or expect. So I certainly wasn't an admirer of Brno, nor how he handled this investigation, in large part because of the lack of transparency in a matter of vital public interest.

And, again, Brno did not debunk, nor (more important) disprove "all" the problems and issues with our elections, including ballot signature verification.

Again, as your quoted excerpt stated:


Our overall assessment is that the current election system in Maricopa County involving the verification and handling of early ballots is broke...

The AG report goes on to say that the state legislatures can take corrective action to address these issues via legislation.

In other words, like the coward that we came to know him to be, he dropped the ball into the state legislatures' laps and washed his hands of it all.



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Court Filing - Dominion Voting System Executives Admit How Hackable and Unreliable Their Systems Are 😁


Thanks for posting the link. I've been trying to figure out how Dominion fits into all of this.

My speculation at this point is that if Dominion machines have the ability to flip votes, or to weight votes, then there would be no need for ballot harvesting, failing to perform proper chain-of-custody, adjudicated ballots, faulty calibration, and on and on. A machine flipping votes would (in theory at least) go completely under the radar, whereas the other activities are rather more easily detected.

I'm guessing that there is a bug or a glitch with the Dominion vote flipping software and until they can fix that glitch, using it would be too risky. For now. But they are no doubt still working on it!



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 02:20 PM
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Katie is effectively declaring war on our State Legislators... and on the voters:

Katie Hobbs Announces Commitment to Flip Arizona House and Senate, Legislators Fire Back

Arizona Gov. Katie Hobbs shared Tuesday that she is committing $500k to a fund aimed at securing a Democrat legislative majority when 2024 comes and alleged this was because Republicans are not cooperating in getting necessary policy changes enacted in the state.


Additionally, Hobbs’s chief political strategist, Nicole DeMont, said this fund would hold Republican legislators “accountable” for being obstructionists during this session.

She doesn't even pretend to respect the will of the voters who voted these legislators in.

Arrogant Bitch. (Yeah, I said it!)



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 02:30 PM
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Might bring back that thing about the routers and internet and metadata. Was that connected to Dominion? I forget 😎



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
Brnovich’s office compiled an “election review summary “ that debunked all election fraud accusations including signature verification.

Brnovich apparently didn’t think y’all would be able to cope with the summary so he kept it from you, lol.

It coming out now - transparency! Y’all want transparency right??



I want to see the results of Brnovich's team's work. Especially if he's claiming that 10,000 hours of investigations were done into fraud claims, then, I want to hear what the auditors have to say about it. So yes, let's have some transparency.

I'm particularly interested in their 2020 dead voter analysis findings, as the number they came up with was drastically lower than the number Jovan Hutton Pulitzer found based on public record. I've already speculated as to how I think Brnovich's team arrived at their findings and If I'm right, I would say that would make the entire investigation suspect of a controlled friendly investigation.

I'm also very interested in what the investigation found regarding the counterfeit ballots that were discovered in the physical forensic part of the audit that was withheld from the public.

I also wonder if they asked Staci Burk if they could examine the shredded ballots she had discovered in a dumpster and held on to.

So, please please please post links of the findings, and not just the public relations rhetoric, that you believe "proves a fair election."



posted on Feb, 22 2023 @ 10:08 PM
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The software has the ability to switch votes via the adjudication process. This was demonstrated to officials in Georgia. It can also vote blank ballots and remove vote marks. Some employees got filmed talking about how the software can leave human filled looking bubbles during this process.

Switching votes electronically is only part of election rigging. If you want to be able to pass a hand recount, you need to switch out paper ballots as well. This can be done by printing off already adjudicated ballots with switched votes. If you need a reason to adjudicate a lot of ballots, perhaps you use thin paper for the ballots and encourage people to use markers that will bleed through, or set the paper size to be off. Maybe you do these things only in certain areas or only on election day to help procure the ballot that you want to switch. If you want to be able to pass an audit, you may have to do things like inflate voter roles, vote for inactive voters, and make sure precincts aren't over voted. Maybe there may be some things that can't be hidden from an audit, like MIC marks, so maybe you find a printer that won't leave any.

It's also super helpful to have third parties that can, take the blame for things, withhold proprietary information, adjudicate and signature verify behind the scenes, and erase your old election data while replacing it with a "trusted" builds.

What's been uncovered is highly complex, very involved, and closely guarded. This should be no surprise as cheaters and elections have been around forever and science and technology has only advanced over the years.




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