Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: alphabetaone

Hey wait !!

All those wiki sources and references are from unreliable and unproven opinions !!!!!!! 😸

Considering it's policed and not left or right leaning, i would trust what's there a lot more than i would trust any affiliated leaning site. Not to mention conflating what you call "opinion" with things that have actually happened (otherwise known as facts) speaks volumes to your character.

The items that are not opinion:

-Hoft was banned from Twitter Feb 6, 2021
-Gateway Pundit is Far Right
-Gateway Pundit engages in conspiracy theories
-Gateway Pundit was founded in 2004 with one employee
-Gateway Pundit is now multi-employee
-Conspiracy theories tend to lead to a lot of mis/disinformation (aka fake news)
-Gateway Pundit received over 1 million unique hits during the 2016 Presidential Campaign

Only thing debateable (or opinion) which will be resolved over time is:

-Whether or not Gateway Pundit "News" turns out to be fake.

Seems to me that Fact far overshadows any opinion.

More from Windham, NH:

Why Was an Associate NH AG Caught On Camera with the “Secured” Windham Ballots at 11:15 PM Wed Night (Then the Cameras Go Out)?

Before the security camera footage went out for about an hour, we see an image of NH Associate AG Anne Edwards walking toward a table covered with “secured” ballots – from the November election in Windham.

My contact in Windham tells me that, before the cameras go out, the state Trooper (also pictured) can be heard saying something to the effect that there’s nobody else in the room.

And this is eyebrow raising as well:

According to my source, on Thursday morning, there were four more boxes of ballots than the original number signed off by Nicole from the Town of Windham. The Windham clerk signed off 23 boxes but the auditors have 27?

And this:

Why is the NH AG’s office, which refused to investigate the election discrepancies for months now, and has no statutory authority, “taking over the audit” and directing the auditors (who for some unknown reason are listening to them)?

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More on the Zucks Bucks given to Maricopa County officials:

How CTCL Helped Biden in Arizona and Nevada

CTCL gave Maricopa County elections officials close to $3 million, or $1.80 for every Biden vote in the jurisdiction. Centered on Phoenix, Maricopa is the fourth most populous county in America and the largest in Arizona, containing roughly 62 percent of the state’s population and over 60 percent of its registered voters.

Arizona Forensic Audit May Reveal Facebook, Zuckerberg Election Meddling

a reply to: alphabetaone

Blah blah blah... yada yada yada... and so on and so forth.

If you've got more and/or better facts, please do share. I don't care where facts come from. I can ignore everything else easy enough.

But if all you've got is trash talk, it will be taken for what it's worth: Trash.

Maricopa County has now posted on Twitter that the meeting (in 15 minutes) will be livestreamed on their youtube page here.

Looks like it will also be streamed via their Twitter page here.

I will try to embed the live video when it starts. Right now it's not showing a proper link to embed. If someone else can do it better or before me, please do!!!

This should be it:

a reply to: alphabetaone

They’re no CNN, that’s for sure.

originally posted by: Boadicea
Maricopa County has now posted on Twitter that the meeting (in 15 minutes) will be livestreamed on their youtube page here.

Looks like it will also be streamed via their Twitter page here.

I will try to embed the live video when it starts. Right now it's not showing a proper link to embed. If someone else can do it better or before me, please do!!!

Did YouTube get rid of the viewer comments? That's a good way to get caught up when joining late.

originally posted by: carewemust

Did YouTube get rid of the viewer comments? That's a good way to get caught up when joining late.

They sure did. I didn't even notice until you mentioned it!

They aren't offering much of anything worth listening to. They have attacked the Senate, they have attacked the auditors. Have thanked and praised election workers. Told us how wonderful they themselves are.

They have stated that they will not turn over the routers. They do not have the passwords the Senate requested. They will produce a letter and technical report.

Board passes motion to send letter and report unanimously. Will not respond to any more requests from this "sham" audit. Will see them in court. Meeting over.

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: JinMI

My best guess is, that speculating upon network traffic is likely a ruse by anyone at all to justify "blackouts" in advance of them happening.

I'm not after proving a negative.

Just the facts and why some people are trying to bottleneck that effect

So Stefanik is Team AZ -- good to know!

New GOP conference chair Elise Stefanik says the Justice Department is trying to block the Arizona election audit as Trump allies pour millions into recount

• The House's No. 3 Republican, Rep. Elise Stefanik, said the Justice Department is trying to block the Arizona election audit
  
• 'That is unconstitutional, from my perspective. Our states, constitutionally, are responsible for writing their state's elections law,' she said on Sunday
  
• Stefanik's comments come as ABC News reported how key Trump figures are backing the controversial audit
  
• Former Trump White House strategist Steve Bannon is giving it publicity on his video podcast
  
• Former Overstock.com CEO Patrick Byrne is aiming to raise $2.8 million to go toward the effort
  
• A top DOJ official wrote a letter to the state Senate leader earlier this month suggesting the audit could be breaking federal law

Gotta smirk at the "giving it publicity" as opposed to "reporting on it"!

originally posted by: JinMI

I'm not after proving a negative.

Me neither. Simply saying that whenever any media or online entity speculates about network traffic, it's likely so that they can say later "i told you traffic would cause a problem"

originally posted by: Boadicea

But if all you've got is trash talk

I must have missed the trash talk. I was questioning why "opinion" seemed to be the recurring theme by xuenchen in an excerp that revolved primarily around fact.

a reply to: alphabetaone

"Trash talk" is my reference to media as a whole in regards to the the Arizona audit... and, obviously, Gateway Pundit being dismissed as a far right conspiracy talk with fake news. Gateway has plenty of opinions to share, but they also provide the facts. Far more and far faster than any other source I've found.

For the most part, what passes as "reporting" is big on opinion (and trash talk) and short on facts.

a reply to: alphabetaone

The devil is in the details.

If there is proof of network traffic that is not being disclosed WE have a huge problem.

Maricopa County has posted their letter, as passed in the meeting:

Letter

I haven't read it yet. I have to take care of a couple things first. So no commentary from me yet. But wanted to post for everyone else for reading and discussion purposes.

originally posted by: Boadicea
This should be it:

15:20 minute mark
I wonder what Mr. Gates means when he says to the Recorder, "you didn't have anything to do with this election in 2020. It would have been easy for you to throw a lot of people under the bus and say we are going to do better next time, but you didn't"?

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Annee

Why worry? Just wait for the official rigged report and all will be just safe right? 😃

Why snap and nibble at every little nit picky opinion from insiders? 😃

It's not that -- it's about claiming vindication. Vindication of what?

I've been following political conspiracies for a long time -- started wih ICQ -- then MSN Messenger -- before ATS.

Rarely does anything come of anything.

Speculation, conspiracies, accusations, gossip, etc -- are not vindications.

originally posted by: alphabetaone
a reply to: Annee


Plus there's always this


"The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is an American far-right fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories.

Founded by Jim Hoft in 2004, The Gateway Pundit expanded from a one-person enterprise into a multi-employee operation that is supported primarily by advertising revenue. During the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign, the site received over a million unique visitors per day. Twitter permanently suspended Hoft's account (@gatewaypundit) on February 6, 2021, for repeatedly publishing misinformation about the 2020 U.S. presidential election."

en.wikipedia.org...

Thanks. I know.

I'm always getting "yelled" at for researching the source of articles and the background of who wrote it.

There's Democrat/Republican - - then there's Extreme Left & Extreme Right.

I don't know who this QDuruji of Out of Darkness is yet - - but, he encouraged his Twitter followers to follow him to Parler. He is not just Right, he is Extreme Right.

originally posted by: Boadicea
"Butthurt Trumpsters" ring any bells?

I'm sorry. And, that is definitely not my style.

But. it is the truth of why were having this audit.

a reply to: IndieA

15:20 minute mark
I wonder what Mr. Gates means when he says to the Recorder, "you didn't have anything to do with this election in 2020. It would have been easy for you to throw a lot of people under the bus and said we are going to do better next time, but you didn't"?

That seemed to be a theme for the lot of them. Richer himself started it off, pointing out that he wasn't even in the County Recorder in the 2020 election... but he sure stopped short of saying that he was elected in the 2020 election... the same election for which the results are being challenged and audited. No conflict of interest there, eh?

But yeah, they all seemed to pat themselves on the back for not taking the "easy" way out and fighting the Senate's demands.

They also sure hid behind the County employees and election workers, who did actually work hard and most of whom probably did a damn good job. But they aren't the problem. Obviously. No one has accused every single worker of wrongdoing and no one wants to!

I thought the most damning statement was the one who admitted he'd retained legal counsel, and that he knows these are criminal acts. I'd bet they've all consulted/retained personal lawyers, as well as lawyers for the Board of Supervisors/County. They know exactly what the stakes are. Personally.