Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Do you understand the word "now"?

It could be in this instance or the recent past when referring to something one has done that they did not do until recently.

For example: "I had never gone to the horse races but now I have because my buddy took me last thursday."

Understanding the flexibility in language really ain't rocket science.

a reply to: daskakik
It could simply be a lie as well.
YMMV
..!. .!..

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Boadicea
Yeah, basically it kills the credibility of the system, Trump won't magically be installed, which I think some folks think will happen. However, it is cannon fire for Presidential campaigns and what better driver of support?

It is an interesting situation.
It would require a unique solution.

originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Boadicea
Yeah, basically it kills the credibility of the system, Trump won't magically be installed, which I think some folks think will happen.

No, he won't. Some will try though. As Dr. Ward noted, there is no precedent for this situation. There is no legal remedy or recourse on the books that can be followed to put Trump back in the White House. As Dr. Ward also noted, it's going to require an unprecedented response. I agree, but the response must have some legal foundation -- both in the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Any political games will only fuel the distrust and suspicion.

However, it is cannon fire for Presidential campaigns and what better driver of support?

Definitely. And if Trump really intends to run in 2024, then of course he'll be making the most of it. Trump is already talking about rallies in June. I read that Gaetz and Greene are coming to AZ to rally for their new caucus... It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Trump showed up with them.

a reply to: Boadicea
Isn't Gaetz kind of radioactive at this point?
Not sure I would want him representing anything right now.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: TheLead
Like I said, she used it in this thread but has not used it before in others. That is how I understood it.

Correct.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Boadicea
Isn't Gaetz kind of radioactive at this point?
Not sure I would want him representing anything right now.

From what Big Media is reporting, one would sure think so!

I'd say the same about Green though.

Maybe they have polling that tells them they have more support than Big Media would have us believe? Or maybe they're just that tone deaf? Or worse??? I really don't know. (My attention has been pretty much focused on this audit!)

It will be interesting to see what kind of support they get at the rally -- IF Trump doesn't show up. Then it will be all about Trump and not their caucus.

a reply to: Boadicea
Trump rallies again would be well attended imo, and any politician with aspirations will attach themselves to that wagon quickly.
Especially with $7/gal gasoline.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: xuenchen
Wisconsin is going to do an audit too !!!!

Here come the nervous squirming spammers !!!!😎

Source? Biden won Wisconsin by only 20,500 votes.

Razor Thin Biden Victory: www.politico.com...

Possible confusion with the audit a few months ago, but may be real and being suppressed ...

Could be a red herring or controlled opposition deflection, but maybe real 😎💫

BREAKING: Wisconsin Officially Launches Audit of 2020 Election (May 15, 2021)

Thank-you for the link. Apparently the Democrat minority was doing all it could to gum up the works, after the Wisconsin State Legislature voted on Feb 11th to perform a complete forensic audit.

Apparently, this "Opinion Piece" reflects the thought-pattern of educated liberals in Arizona?

Source: www.azcentral.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
Apparently, this "Opinion Piece" reflects the thought-pattern of educated liberals in Arizona?

Source: www.azcentral.com...

Yes, that sounds about typical.

Granted, though, Trump gave them great ammunition by misquoting the claim. Which allows the writer to legitimately attack Trump and his accusation, rather than address the actual issue Trump botched up -- which is a serious issue.

Instead that's dismissed as --

Or, as people with actual elections experience say, not at all unusual. Just because a file has been deleted, they say, doesn't mean the data is gone.

-- and not bother to mention that it was illegal to delete the material period. No one should have to go looking for it. But since they do, Maricopa County should be addressing these issues with the Senate.

And this reporter should be addressing the issue with her readers. As well as other serious issues found and reported.

This isn't new or groundbreaking, but it asks the same question I asked a couple days ago:

EXCLUSIVE: Dominion Controls Access to Voting Machine – Maricopa Co. Claims They Don’t Have Access – So Did Dominion Delete the Missing Files?

But if that's true, that then begs the question: How did Dominion gain access to the machines days before the audit was set to start? Not just anyone would be able to access those machines. So if Dominion did access the machines to delete the files, they were given access by someone at the County.

Who???

originally posted by: Boadicea
This isn't new or groundbreaking, but it asks the same question I asked a couple days ago:

EXCLUSIVE: Dominion Controls Access to Voting Machine – Maricopa Co. Claims They Don’t Have Access – So Did Dominion Delete the Missing Files?

But if that's true, that then begs the question: How did Dominion gain access to the machines days before the audit was set to start? Not just anyone would be able to access those machines. So if Dominion did access the machines to delete the files, they were given access by someone at the County.

Who???

That issue, control, is going to be very important imo.
Hopefully the right questions will be asked, and more importantly, answered.
Bring the sunshine!

a reply to: shooterbrody

Considering they are suing for Defamation for Billions, and counter sued at the same time ... The Votes Belong to the People not a shady group of foreign investors, with lots to gain pulling the strings. Out of the Shadows Dominion, and all the rest...

a reply to: Boadicea

That's why we need questions and answers from individuals under oath to tell the truth. The many whistle-blowers signed sworn, legally binding affidavits. I hope the officials testifying are "sworn in" before answering questions.

a reply to: shooterbrody

That issue, control, is going to be very important imo.

Definitely. And that's as it should be for several reasons. I expect that Maricopa County is going to (truthfully) claim that they did not remove anything... Dominion did, but Maricopa County probably cannot say that because of a non-transparency clause in their contract with Dominion. They know that doesn't absolve them of anything though, because they gave that power to Dominion to begin with, which they did not have the authority to do, because in doing so they also gave away the State Legislature's Constitutional (virtually) absolute authority and power over all aspects of elections. Hence their "the best defense is a good offense" Twitter response, rather than simply meeting with the Senate and hashing all this out.

Legally speaking, as a corporation, Dominion has no responsibility or duty to the people of Arizona, nor to Maricopa County, only to their shareholders.

Hopefully the right questions will be asked, and more importantly, answered.
Bring the sunshine!

I'm certainly hoping so...

My gut tells me that there's more that's gone on between the Senate and the County than we know. The County had to have been contacted about this before it was posted on Twitter or elsewhere, and apparently did not cooperate. It feels like the Senate is also taunting them... to turn on Dominion maybe?

I don't know. But it seems to me that the County is stuck between a rock and a hard place -- Dominion and the Senate.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

That's why we need questions and answers from individuals under oath to tell the truth. The many whistle-blowers signed sworn, legally binding affidavits. I hope the officials testifying are "sworn in" before answering questions.

That may very well happen and wouldn't be a bad idea. The Senate can call another hearing and subpoena witnesses who testified at the first hearing, and any additional ones they've found, but this time focus their questions towards the questions raised thus far in the audit, particularly the role Dominion played.

A picture has emerged (perhaps by design) around the adjudicated ballots. My best guess is that there is enough found right there to flip the count to Trump -- easily. That's the Senate's ace in the hole. But they probably strongly suspect much more and much worse being hidden.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

That's why we need questions and answers from individuals under oath to tell the truth. The many whistle-blowers signed sworn, legally binding affidavits. I hope the officials testifying are "sworn in" before answering questions.

I hope when the investigation is finished and the allegations are dismissed, you will have the dignity to admit there's no actual proof of fraud.

a reply to: Boadicea

Legally speaking, as a corporation, Dominion has no responsibility or duty to the people of Arizona, nor to Maricopa County, only to their shareholders.

And if they were outside their scope?
It appears they were only hired to gather the ballots, not select the winner?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Boadicea

And if they were outside their scope?
It appears they were only hired to gather the ballots, not select the winner?

I would think they were technically hired to record and tally the ballots... and, no, not select the winner... but that brings us back to the adjudicated ballots again, which is where Dominion and/or County election workers had the literal power to change a voter's vote. It might be an honest mistake, it might be knowing and deliberate fraud. Less than 6,000 wrongly adjudicated ballots (out of more than 200,000) is all it would take to reverse the election outcome.

I do think that Dominion did the County dirty somehow though. Probably in many ways.