Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

a reply to: MetalThunder

Interesting.

Strengthens my belief that the right and left are different sides of the same coin.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

It's too bad we're not getting updates on what is being found..or not found.

I wish we were getting some kind of updates as well. I know Dr Ward has her updates every day, but those are very much geared to her own politics -- AZ Republicans. And that's all fine and well, but I'd like something more matter-of-fact and practical. How many ballots have they completed today? How far is each process along the way? What processes need to be completed before another process begins?

I kinda sorta understand not giving us specific numbers or findings, etc. until everything is complete, and all evidence can be presented in its entirety and in context -- for better or worse (I suspect both!). But I don't like it. Not one bit!

What if a judge comes forth tomorrow and orders the end results of the audit to be sealed, pending a multi-month hearing to determine....something?

I worry about this every day. I secretly hope (you won't tell anyone, right?) that if it does happen -- or something similar -- and if there was fraud found, that someone bites the bullet and spills it all. But I won't hold my breath.

Weekly updates would head-off several potential problems after the audit is finished.

Unfortunately, weekly updates could also create several problems. We're stuck between a rock and a hard place. The guilty -- however many and to whatever extent they are guilty of something -- are going to work equally hard (of not harder!) to protect themselves, and to taint or twist or spin or compromise any information that does come out. It also gives folks ("folks" like the Thief-in-Chief's ultra awesome Election Fraud team) the time and opportunity to hide corroborating evidence, or get to the witnesses, or destroy evidence... Forewarned is forearmed.

We know that whatever fraud/interference/tampering is found, folks are already preparing to fight it, no matter when it's released. Maybe one big bombshell at the end is the way to go. Too much for them to take on all at once. At this point, we better hope so!

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: carewemust

Those who bother to listen to the embarrassing nonsense coming from this story know exactly what's going on. They are inspecting the ballots for traces of bamboo. Yes, you heard that right. They are checking to make sure that some of the ballots weren't printed in China, checked off to indicate Biden votes, brought to the USA and then somehow dumped en masse in the county.

Yes, they are checking the paper for bamboo, because one of the accusations which has been made is that ballots were printed in China and shipped here. Because the Chinese do in fact make paper from bamboo -- which grows and reproduces quite fast -- one way to prove or disprove this accusation is to check the paper of the ballots for bamboo. Simple but accurate. If there is bamboo, then we have a problem. If there is no bamboo, then one of the accusations (conspiracy theories) has been disproven.

Why is this lunacy? Why is this a bad thing?

No judge is going to touch this nonsense with a ten-foot bargepole.

Um... it's already been "touched" by a judge... with the Constitution though, not a ten-foot bargepole.

And in the end, it's not a matter for a judge. At least not a judge in a court of law. More like 350 million judges in the court of public opinion.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I support any and all measures to ensure election integrity, I'll wait for the report, the pushback is a good indicator though something is very very wrong

a reply to: MetalThunder

Here's How You Know Democrats Rigged and Stole the 2020 Election

townhall.com...

a reply to: Boadicea

Because the people doing the checking of the ballots have no experience of doing this. They have no expertise. They've already hopelessly corrupted the chain of evidence. The ballots have been left unattended, they're checking them for a theory that even the people in charge of the process think is insane (they just want to cross it off the list) and the entire thing is a bad joke.
But, as I said, people are following this in the desperate hope that this somehow overturns the election.
It's not credible. It's sad and frankly laughable. There's something deeply wrong with these people. They never bothered to do any research on the way that election results are tabulated and they threw a wobbly when the Great and Terrible Bloviator lost.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You know the " people " personally or are you making assumptions to inject doubt and cause a bias notion that no outcome is worthy ? Cause the TV said so ?

This Nation was built on WE The " People ", Not government and Media....

a reply to: IAMTAT

The cardboard on the windows in Detroit was all I needed to see to lose faith in this country. That should have NEVER been allowed. No matter what. The optics are unforgivable.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: Boadicea

Because the people doing the checking of the ballots have no experience of doing this. They have no expertise. They've already hopelessly corrupted the chain of evidence. The ballots have been left unattended, they're checking them for a theory that even the people in charge of the process think is insane (they just want to cross it off the list) and the entire thing is a bad joke.
But, as I said, people are following this in the desperate hope that this somehow overturns the election.
It's not credible. It's sad and frankly laughable. There's something deeply wrong with these people. They never bothered to do any research on the way that election results are tabulated and they threw a wobbly when the Great and Terrible Bloviator lost.

I see lots of objection, lots of adjectives and adverbs. I don’t see any facts or even links. Hmmmm. It’s almost as if every asshole has an opinion.



PS. You know how we’re always trying to show you guys how your projection game is too strong?? That post was pure bloviation.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: Boadicea

Because the people doing the checking of the ballots have no experience of doing this. They have no expertise.

Um... and? So? I have absolutely no idea how one goes about identifying paper stock contents, and I have absolutely no idea how this particular team is doing so. Do you? If so, and there's some reason to think that special expertise or experience is required, then please do enlighten us. Tell us how this is done, and tell us why these people are not capable of learning and then doing what needs to be done to prove or disprove bamboo fibers in the paper.

But, as I said, people are following this in the desperate hope that this somehow overturns the election.

So people keep saying. But it's not true. I have absolutely no "hope" or expectation that the results of this audit will overturn the election. I have absolutely no "hope" or expectation that the results of this audit will result in Trump being reinstated as president. The Senate has made it very clear that the results of this audit will be used for the purpose of strengthening and reforming AZ's election laws. Period. Nothing more and nothing less.

The truth is that I'm quite happy to keep Trump OUT of the equation completely. I wish he'd shut up about the whole audit and just let them do their jobs.

The only desperation I see is coming from those who want this audit stopped come hell or high water.

It's not credible. It's sad and frankly laughable. There's something deeply wrong with these people. They never bothered to do any research on the way that election results are tabulated and they threw a wobbly when the Great and Terrible Bloviator lost.

Okay. You can think whatever you want to think and we'll keep doing it anyway. (You see, we don't really care what others think... especially when those others are embracing ignorance). You can run along then and laugh and laugh and laugh!!! A good belly laugh is always a pleasure. So... you're welcome!!!

a reply to: Boadicea

I agree with everything you said. But....if Arizona proves Trump won that state and it ends there, Biden and the dems lose all confidence and respect. They may occupy the capitol building but that’s about it.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MetalThunder

Here's How You Know Democrats Rigged and Stole the 2020 Election

townhall.com...

That article is wild, that's exactly my thought process!

I don't even read TowmHall, but basically, when you apply sound logical reasoning, nothing of the events described should have ever happened.

This isn't some fake arse Russian Dossier, this is real world election fraud.

Our only fault is being TOO WEAK to stop it when we clearly saw what they were doing.
We're such good little boys and girls, huh? Letting them get away with murder while we try to use the broken system because INTEGIRTY. Nothing wrong with that, but if they play with fire, WE SIMPLY RESPOND IN THE SAME MANNER.

This is why Trump is still so very popular, he is the perfect out to vent the public anger constituents have at GOP stagnation and slow responses.

Thankfully, the new election laws being pushed out by red states will help agaisnt the Dems blatant fraud, but well need more measures and support.

It is important that these audits happen so that we can detetmine what we need to do. All this obstruction only works in our favor as Humans are incredibly suspicious and love drama and what better show than the Dem idiocracy taking place?

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: Boadicea

I agree with everything you said. But....if Arizona proves Trump won that state and it ends there, Biden and the dems lose all confidence and respect. They may occupy the capitol building but that’s about it.

Good point. No matter what the audit finds, no matter what the AZ Senate does with that information, it will not affect the office of the president nor the person holding that office. Not legally. Not legislatively. Not officially.

But the court of public opinion will do what the court of public opinion does. It will consider the facts presented and come to their conclusions... and judgment.

I'm good with that. But I have nothing to fear from this audit. No matter what it finds, we are better off with it than without it.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MetalThunder

Here's How You Know Democrats Rigged and Stole the 2020 Election

townhall.com...

Only “slightly” bias

“Wayne Allyn Root is a nationally syndicated conservative TV and radio host known as "the Capitalist Evangelist" and "the conservative warrior."

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You automatically believe the MSM sources 😃

originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: IAMTAT

The cardboard on the windows in Detroit was all I needed to see to lose faith in this country. That should have NEVER been allowed. No matter what. The optics are unforgivable.

I thought they said the cardboard was to prevent COVID19 spreading ? 😃

But what if the routers are being tampered with ??? (or already have been ?)

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The DRAMA !!🤕

Turn Over Routers Or Face Subpoenas, Arizona Lawmakers Tell Maricopa County

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: MetalThunder

Interesting.

Strengthens my belief that the right and left are different sides of the same coin.

While the leadership may be filled with scoundrels, the right and the left are very different when it comes to the people on the ground.

Forget the titles and labels, but there are two distinct sides here. It's people who want to return to traditional values, morals, and decency. It's people who reject the atheism, celebration of dysfunction, and tearing down of tradition brought in by the specter of communism, socialism, progressivism etc.

And it's those who want the opposite. They celebrate dysfunction, mock and reject the divine. They say girl is boy, personal responsibility is cruelty, want to censor those that disagree with them etc. It's black and white and there is no middle ground. Just be clear on which path leads to good vs which path is celebrating evil.

You could say there is a middle ground, but they are what allowed the corruption in the first place. Again, I made no distinction between political parties, but the left and right are generally filled with very different ratios of the people mentioned above.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MetalThunder

Here's How You Know Democrats Rigged and Stole the 2020 Election

townhall.com...

Good article. Democrats tolerated the recounts. But the "forensic" audit is striking nerves.

Apparently what Joe Biden referred to as the "largest voter fraud organization" ever devised, consists of quite a few entities.

Those who are protesting the forensic audit the loudest obviously KNOW what TYPE of voter frauds occurred.

Those entities are, in effect, pointing where to look for evidence, by protesting certain processes more than others.

Why should they care that Infrared lights are being used, or paper composition analysis is occurring?

The answer is obvious. As Q often said, we are "Over Target", thereby triggering panic.

originally posted by: xuenchen
But what if the routers are being tampered with ??? (or already have been ?)

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It would not surprise me in the least if the routers were absolutely blank when/if they are finally turned over.

Strategically speaking, if that happens, I'm assuming the penalties for such are not as severe as what crimes would be found otherwise.

Can't convict without proof.