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Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week
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a reply to: FlyingFox
In 2016, the machine-fraud referenced in your post wasn't enough to put Hillary over the top.
Democrat leaders, like Hillary, didn't call for a forensic audit, because she knew she lost by such a large margin, even the machine-fraud didn't give her enough votes to defeat candidate Trump.
Lesson learned. The "fraud organization" referenced by candidate Biden knew they needed to add an additional dimension of fraud. In 2020, that was MAIL-IN VOTING fraud, targeting 6 key swing-states.
Mail-in Fraud + Machine-Fraud = Biden Illegitimately Elected. (Hillary must have felt really bad after JB won, lol.)
In 2016, the machine-fraud referenced in your post wasn't enough to put Hillary over the top.
Democrat leaders, like Hillary, didn't call for a forensic audit, because she knew she lost by such a large margin, even the machine-fraud didn't give her enough votes to defeat candidate Trump.
Lesson learned. The "fraud organization" referenced by candidate Biden knew they needed to add an additional dimension of fraud. In 2020, that was MAIL-IN VOTING fraud, targeting 6 key swing-states.
Mail-in Fraud + Machine-Fraud = Biden Illegitimately Elected. (Hillary must have felt really bad after JB won, lol.)
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Annee
I'm gonna point something out.
Sunshine for this event IS A GOOD THING.
Transparency from ALL GOVERNMENT is a good thing.
So is varied opinions.
a reply to: Annee
Well, I learned one thing from this article, and that is that the workers have signed non-disclosure agreements to work on this audit. It didn't say the duration of the NDA though, nor if it applied to how the work is being done and/or the results found. But that was something I assumed, and now I know.
Other than that, it's just more fear mongering and Orange Man Bad ridiculousness, opining as fact.
Yup, it's called "unprecedented" and we all knew that. There's a first for everything.
And given that Dominion apparently had and still has complete control over the machines during the election, and the County claims they never had the passwords, and Dominion refuses to hand over the admin passwords, I'm thinking "of course this is a first!" Dominion made sure no one could perform such examination and testing of their machines.
Yup. This is a first and it's about damn time. Dominion -- nor any company -- should have such control over our elections.
A "first" does not equal "un-trustworthy," but that's exactly what she's saying. How can she even know this? Especially as she goes on to complain about the lack of transparency in what the auditors are doing? She doesn't know.
But doesn't even mention Dominion's withholding of the passwords, or their involvement in the election, which is not at all transparent. And, of course, since she doesn't mention it, she doesn't complain about that.
She doesn't know much of what she's saying, but still comes to her own conclusions about what she does not know:
Really? She knows this? Of course she doesn't.
Then there's this:
The blue pens were removed from the floor before any ballots were brought out. No one used blue pens to mark any ballots, so no ballots were contaminated. Yes, it was a mistake, and could have been disastrous if not caught. But it was, and did not cause the problems she states.
She brought up every Big Media fear and panic mongering half-truth and mis-truth she could find or think of, and actually failed to report on the very disturbing things that are known.
But it sure sounds scary to the voters who don't know what's really been going on and continues to go on.
Well, I learned one thing from this article, and that is that the workers have signed non-disclosure agreements to work on this audit. It didn't say the duration of the NDA though, nor if it applied to how the work is being done and/or the results found. But that was something I assumed, and now I know.
Other than that, it's just more fear mongering and Orange Man Bad ridiculousness, opining as fact.
Never before has an election audit been conducted this way.
Yup, it's called "unprecedented" and we all knew that. There's a first for everything.
And given that Dominion apparently had and still has complete control over the machines during the election, and the County claims they never had the passwords, and Dominion refuses to hand over the admin passwords, I'm thinking "of course this is a first!" Dominion made sure no one could perform such examination and testing of their machines.
Yup. This is a first and it's about damn time. Dominion -- nor any company -- should have such control over our elections.
That is why the results of the audit—ordered by the Republican majority of the state Senate, partially funded by undisclosed sources, and being conducted by an unqualified Florida firm—won’t reveal anything trustworthy about the accuracy or integrity of Arizona’s 2020 election.
A "first" does not equal "un-trustworthy," but that's exactly what she's saying. How can she even know this? Especially as she goes on to complain about the lack of transparency in what the auditors are doing? She doesn't know.
But doesn't even mention Dominion's withholding of the passwords, or their involvement in the election, which is not at all transparent. And, of course, since she doesn't mention it, she doesn't complain about that.
She doesn't know much of what she's saying, but still comes to her own conclusions about what she does not know:
So Cyber Ninjas will determine hundreds of legally cast ballots are fraudulent based on creases, many of which could have happened after the vote was officially audited by hand in November by the county’s actual auditors.
Really? She knows this? Of course she doesn't.
Then there's this:
For example, state law demands that only red pen—which cannot be read by tabulation machines—be used by auditors to make necessary marks on ballots or other election materials. But auditors, a local reporter named Jen Fifield found, were using blue pen, thereby contaminating the very ballots they seek to determine were cast fraudulently using folds and errant markings as incriminating evidence.
The blue pens were removed from the floor before any ballots were brought out. No one used blue pens to mark any ballots, so no ballots were contaminated. Yes, it was a mistake, and could have been disastrous if not caught. But it was, and did not cause the problems she states.
She brought up every Big Media fear and panic mongering half-truth and mis-truth she could find or think of, and actually failed to report on the very disturbing things that are known.
But it sure sounds scary to the voters who don't know what's really been going on and continues to go on.
Everything should be questioned at this point. Everything said and done, by who...beyond Arizona.. This is way bigger than it appears. Lack of
Credibility is reflecting off satellites this very second to your screen via MSM... On a personal note, sure am glad a PLANdemic didn't distract much
...ya think ? LoL
Dominion Voting Systems: Glitch, Clinton Tie Cause Scrutiny in 2020 Election
Yeah ok....
And the Beat goes on...
Dominion Voting Systems: Glitch, Clinton Tie Cause Scrutiny in 2020 Election
Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency and the National Association of State Election Directors” described the election as “the most secure in American history,” USA Today reported, quoting the coalition as saying, “There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.”
Yeah ok....
And the Beat goes on...
edit on 5102021 by MetalThunder because: (no reason given)
Whelp, that's why several states will be following FL and GA election law examples.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: FlyingFox
In 2016, the machine-fraud referenced in your post wasn't enough to put Hillary over the top.
Democrat leaders, like Hillary, didn't call for a forensic audit, because she knew she lost by such a large margin, even the machine-fraud didn't give her enough votes to defeat candidate Trump.
Lesson learned. The "fraud organization" referenced by candidate Biden knew they needed to add an additional dimension of fraud. In 2020, that was MAIL-IN VOTING fraud, targeting 6 key swing-states.
Mail-in Fraud + Machine-Fraud = Biden Illegitimately Elected. (Hillary must have felt really bad after JB won, lol.)
In a way, it feels like both sides tried to boot Trump and GOP turned a blind eye to election laws, but once Trump was gone, everything would go back to normal, hemce, why we see these election laws doubling down in swing states.
As if to say, "Hey, we got him out, now whatever happens in 2024 happens, Trump could get relected, whatever, the point is, we helped so that Establishment could gain more power, but if y'all screw this up, we're doing nothing in 2024 but saving our own arses."
originally posted by: carewemust
ATS might get a Michigan Forensic Audit thread in a week or two.
That would be a beautiful thing to see!
The more audits the better. The more elections we can confirm as legitimate or not, the better. The more the critters get it through their heads that we do have a right to know our elections are fair and honest, the better.
I'm wondering if we don't need routine forensic audits every so often... just to keep everyone honest. We could even make them surprise audits. Random audits. Here one year, there the next year, over yonder the year after that. Yup. I'm liking that idea.
Yeah I am glad this is happening. This isn't a Left or Right issue, it's about our Nation as a whole and accountability.
originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: carewemust
ATS might get a Michigan Forensic Audit thread in a week or two.
That would be a beautiful thing to see!
The more audits the better. The more elections we can confirm as legitimate or not, the better. The more the critters get it through their heads that we do have a right to know our elections are fair and honest, the better.
I'm wondering if we don't need routine forensic audits every so often... just to keep everyone honest. We could even make them surprise audits. Random audits. Here one year, there the next year, over yonder the year after that. Yup. I'm liking that idea.
a reply to: Annee
Nope. Gateway Pundit has plenty of editorializing, but they've also come up with the most factual news and updates as well.
Maricopa County Elections Witness Testifies that Dominion Ran Entire Election – County Officials and Observers NEVER HAD Access or Passwords! (Video)
Antrim County Court Hearing on Monday: Judge to Decide Whether to Expand Audit or Shut the Case Down as Requested by Democrat Secretary of State
H UGE: Citizens Group in Arizona Drops a MOAB – Sues State for 2018, 2019, and 2020 Elections That Were Not In Compliance with Arizona Law
AZ Audit Director Ken Bennett Drops a BOMB! – Says “It’s Very Concerning” that Dominion Has Passwords, Control of Maricopa County Voting Systems and Officials There Do Not
All of the above articles contain facts, new information, and updates. Many/much of which GP posted first, later reposted by other conservative sites, and much never reported by Big Media at all. Still!!!
For example, the news about Maricopa County election officials not turning over the routers, and that Maricopa County has never had the admin passwords, which Dominion refuses to turn over, or the data devices that were removed from the election site each night taken to an unknown location by known persons. None of this was even mentioned in this article, nor has any of it been reported by Big Media.
I would really love to have an unbiased source reporting all the facts and information that's fit to print. We don't have that. Much like the audit, it's not perfect, but we have to make the most and the best of what we do have. For me, right now, that's Gateway Pundit.
However, please do keep posting anything and everything you find that's worthy of attention and discussion! I'm happy to read it all for whatever gems it contains.
And for what it's worth, I don't post everything I find and read, even when it suits my personal opinions and perspectives. If it doesn't add facts or new information, then I just read it and go on along my way. And do also note that I have not and will not post anything from or about Trump!!! I am definitely not coming at this from a "we're gonna get Trump back in the White House" perspective. I really do wish he'd just shut up about it all and let it play out. But he's a citizen and he can comment on whatever he wants. So it is what is is.
It’s an opinion piece — just as all the articles from Gateway Pundit are.
Nope. Gateway Pundit has plenty of editorializing, but they've also come up with the most factual news and updates as well.
Maricopa County Elections Witness Testifies that Dominion Ran Entire Election – County Officials and Observers NEVER HAD Access or Passwords! (Video)
Antrim County Court Hearing on Monday: Judge to Decide Whether to Expand Audit or Shut the Case Down as Requested by Democrat Secretary of State
H UGE: Citizens Group in Arizona Drops a MOAB – Sues State for 2018, 2019, and 2020 Elections That Were Not In Compliance with Arizona Law
AZ Audit Director Ken Bennett Drops a BOMB! – Says “It’s Very Concerning” that Dominion Has Passwords, Control of Maricopa County Voting Systems and Officials There Do Not
All of the above articles contain facts, new information, and updates. Many/much of which GP posted first, later reposted by other conservative sites, and much never reported by Big Media at all. Still!!!
For example, the news about Maricopa County election officials not turning over the routers, and that Maricopa County has never had the admin passwords, which Dominion refuses to turn over, or the data devices that were removed from the election site each night taken to an unknown location by known persons. None of this was even mentioned in this article, nor has any of it been reported by Big Media.
I would really love to have an unbiased source reporting all the facts and information that's fit to print. We don't have that. Much like the audit, it's not perfect, but we have to make the most and the best of what we do have. For me, right now, that's Gateway Pundit.
However, please do keep posting anything and everything you find that's worthy of attention and discussion! I'm happy to read it all for whatever gems it contains.
And for what it's worth, I don't post everything I find and read, even when it suits my personal opinions and perspectives. If it doesn't add facts or new information, then I just read it and go on along my way. And do also note that I have not and will not post anything from or about Trump!!! I am definitely not coming at this from a "we're gonna get Trump back in the White House" perspective. I really do wish he'd just shut up about it all and let it play out. But he's a citizen and he can comment on whatever he wants. So it is what is is.
a reply to: Arnie123
I get that feeling too. In fact, I seriously doubt the Dems could pull this off alone. They had to have help from the Pubs. Even if that "help" is turning a blind eye... or worse, pulling a Cheney and vilifying anyone who wants an audit. Or bullying fellow congress critters not to consider the objections posed by states.
And, specifically, the objections raised by Arizona at the certification hearings, which were prevented by the oh-so-convenient timing of the "storming" of the Capitol. It's too convenient. I don't believe for a minute that the "storming" just happened to take place at the exact moment that the critters were about to consider Arizona's objections and evidence.
ETA: I'm thinking Zuckerburg's money has something to do with this. Like the $3 million Zuck bucks that Maricopa County received... and immediately vanished.
In a way, it feels like both sides tried to boot Trump and GOP turned a blind eye to election laws, but once Trump was gone, everything would go back to normal, hemce, why we see these election laws doubling down in swing states.
I get that feeling too. In fact, I seriously doubt the Dems could pull this off alone. They had to have help from the Pubs. Even if that "help" is turning a blind eye... or worse, pulling a Cheney and vilifying anyone who wants an audit. Or bullying fellow congress critters not to consider the objections posed by states.
And, specifically, the objections raised by Arizona at the certification hearings, which were prevented by the oh-so-convenient timing of the "storming" of the Capitol. It's too convenient. I don't believe for a minute that the "storming" just happened to take place at the exact moment that the critters were about to consider Arizona's objections and evidence.
ETA: I'm thinking Zuckerburg's money has something to do with this. Like the $3 million Zuck bucks that Maricopa County received... and immediately vanished.
edit on 10-5-2021 by Boadicea because: (no reason given)
a reply to: Arnie123
And who can demand accountability. Somehow the opposition thinks We The People just have to do as we're told... believe what we're told... think as we're told.
And We The People are increasingly saying, "Hell no!!!"
Yeah I am glad this is happening. This isn't a Left or Right issue, it's about our Nation as a whole and accountability.
And who can demand accountability. Somehow the opposition thinks We The People just have to do as we're told... believe what we're told... think as we're told.
And We The People are increasingly saying, "Hell no!!!"
MO
RE OUTRAGEOUS ACTS: Maricopa County Attorney Claims They Can’t Provide Routers and Passwords to Auditors – Here’s Why This Is Questionable
Maricopa County has claimed that they cannot turn over the routers because it would jeopardize law enforcement security, as well as confidential information of citizens (such as Social Security numbers). Is this true or an excuse?
I have no idea what information routers contain or not, but the above makes sense to me. Routers would record transmissions to and from the device, but would it contain the actual data transmitted? In other words, if an email is sent for example, it would record the time transmitted, but would it record the content of the email itself? Does anyone know if the above is true?
And if it is true, then I have to ask this same question:
Someone skoool me! Please!!!
Maricopa County has claimed that they cannot turn over the routers because it would jeopardize law enforcement security, as well as confidential information of citizens (such as Social Security numbers). Is this true or an excuse?
This response is very questionable because based on our discussion with experts, routers only show the traffic going between entities. Routers record date and time stamps of traffic flow to/from entities and these timestamps are by the second and are not editable. Based on this response the County doesn’t want the auditors to see where data was transferred to and from related to the 2020 Election.
Providing routers or virtual images of routers puts sensitive, confidential data belonging to Maricopa County’s citizens— including social security numbers and protected health information at risk as well. As a result, the County cannot at this time provide the virtual images of routers.
I have no idea what information routers contain or not, but the above makes sense to me. Routers would record transmissions to and from the device, but would it contain the actual data transmitted? In other words, if an email is sent for example, it would record the time transmitted, but would it record the content of the email itself? Does anyone know if the above is true?
And if it is true, then I have to ask this same question:
...why does the County mix legal and election traffic on the same routers?
Someone skoool me! Please!!!
What IF . . . . .
Counterfeit ballots have been detected by ID'ing the paper and ink and comparing to ballot printer contractors specs and whaaaala !! What if MSM suppressing is in progress 😎
Counterfeit ballots have been detected by ID'ing the paper and ink and comparing to ballot printer contractors specs and whaaaala !! What if MSM suppressing is in progress 😎
What IF . . . .
Extra ballots were printed by the contractors (bribes and payoffs) and never reported in the original work order reports ??😎
Extra ballots were printed by the contractors (bribes and payoffs) and never reported in the original work order reports ??😎
originally posted by: xuenchen
What IF . . . . .
Counterfeit ballots have been detected by ID'ing the paper and ink and comparing to ballot printer contractors specs and whaaaala !! What if MSM suppressing is in progress 😎
Hmmmm... okay.... I wanna play too!
If there were in fact counterfeit ballots inserted into the genuine ballots, then perhaps the whole story about ballots printed in China and bamboo fibers in the paper were the crazy half-cocked disinfo put out to be easily proven false... and simultaneously discredit the truth about actual counterfeit ballots NOT printed in China on Chinese paper inserted in with the genuine ballots...
Uninformed people will only hear "counterfeit" or "fake" ballots and not pay attention to the details. But the devil is always in the details...
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