-@TH3WH17ERABB17- -Q- Questions. White House Insider's postings -PART- - 32 -

originally posted by: CoramDeo
a reply to: FinallyFree72

The point is that there are tens of millions of people who are unreasonably terrified of “wasting their vote”. United we stand, divided we fall...

As someone, earlier, astutely pointed out (apologies for being lazy and not looking back to figure out who, but you know who you are), many did have their votes wasted, at least in part. If you voted on a Dominion machine, and the algorithm incorporates fractional voting, or shuffling votes to a thrid party with a correction to the D's, or just outright counts a part of the vote incorrectly, then you your vote was wasted in part or in whole.

The only thing that is killing third parties is effective leadership. The closest you've seen recently to a coalescing around a third part leader was with Ron Paul. Paul and libertarians, had/have solid ideas, but the leadership was weak. Fast forward to now, and you have hit and miss runs under that banner, and most recently Jo-Jo the BLM lover taking up the mantle. Damage done.

Again, you only have about 10% of republicans currently serving who don't reek of dead groundhog. They need to be drawn away from the party that will, in time, rot them as well. As you said:

The thing is, there are ALREADY Independent thinking republicans who are trying to run for office but they are losing at the primaries because too many people blow off voting in those.

My question is, jusxtapose those people running under the banner of a new, Trump-back party, vs the establishment republican, not in a primary, but in the regular runoff. Do you think people are going to go for the establisment republican in 2022, or 2024? Just skip the primary. Think new car smell.

I'm not interested in Repiblicans XP Servce Pack 2. There is no way to fix the party.

The first order of business should be a list of assholes who will never be allowed to run under, join, or participate in advising for the new party.

One last thing. You said:

You are starting down the path that the US Communist Party and Bernie Sanders’ Socialists already found out doesn’t work.

That's quite possibly the biggest instult that I've ever received on this site. Congratulations. Those words to my face would've ___________________________________.

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edit on 17-12-2020 by CoramDeo because: TTT-[ ]

It would have been helpful if you had explained exactly what part of that insulted you. Unless you were in the Sanders’ inner circle between 2016 and 2019 or part of the US communist Party, I wasn’t referring to you. Even still, pointing out that both groups separately tried to do it on their own away from either of the “two parties” (Sanders in between elections was considering running 3rd party and eventually went D in an effort to change the face of the party) and both reached the same conclusion I outlined in my post seems like a weird thing to take that level of offense to. I suspect you construed a meaning I didn’t intend.

Either way, we will just have to agree to disagree on the need for a new car smell. I think it’s overrated in actual new cars and I think it’s overrated in this case as well. The libertarian party had great leadership back in the early 90’s when I was a registered member but it didn’t change the result. There are dozens of obstacles a 3rd party faces that have to do with the national election committee and nothing to do with leadership. IMO, it’s an endeavor destined to take too long at a time when there is no time left.

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

From what I have been able to gather this is all 100% very real and is so much worse than they are letting on in the media.

A literal Digital Pearl Harbor.

a reply to: PokeyJoe

Oh ... goody ... and we just had Joe Biden selected to be our president as if he could lead himself out of a wet paper bag let alone get the country through some kind of crisis.

This has been my concern for a while. Do you really think they will allow the “insects” to rise up?

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

From what I have been able to gather this is all 100% very real and is so much worse than they are letting on in the media.

A literal Digital Pearl Harbor.

a reply to: NightFlight

Probably due to this gigantic hack. They are making sure that their baseline, old school comms are still functional, in the event that hackers who've infected everything take the whole damn system down?

Axios reports that trump will be issuing a "wave of pardons" today.

SURFS UP

Re: SolarWinds ORION Platform


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"Hunter Becomes The Hunted"

originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
They have been used for high crimes. Also, I think if a person is tried as an enemy combatant they can be warranted. Also, I think the Insurrection Act may also have provisions for military tribunals.

In this 2016 CNN article written by Kayleigh McEnnany, she lists a number of cases historically where it has been done. In the georgetown link you will note that an appeal to the US Supreme Court should normally still be possible from a military tribunal...

www.cnn.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
guides.ll.georgetown.edu...

Excellent, thanks! Good to know they are an option at least for the main perpetrators and funders of this insurrection.

originally posted by: dashen
Axios reports that trump will be issuing a "wave of pardons" today.

SURFS UP

ALSO from Axios:

Scoop: Pentagon halts Biden transition briefings

www.axios.com... organic&utm_content=1100

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: TheMandolorian

Wood makes a specific reference (with date) to a recorded phone convo between Roberts and Breyer.
What did he get his hands on?

And.... WHO gave it to him?

Whistle-Blower...allegedly a current staffer for one of the SC Justices.
(Video)

#SupremeCourt COMPROMISED! Staffer went #WhistleBlower & said he heard Justice #Roberts, suspected of being Dirty & a Mole, seen w' Clinton on Epstein Island, SCREAMING Insisting that the #Texas Case to stop #Elections Fraud not be taken up. WOW!

twitter.com...

Newsmax brought up a point - via a guest on the show. Were these meetings done virtually or in person? If virtually, then there's no merit to the story as they wouldn't be able to see the apparent POS Kavanaugh walk out smiling.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Ride the wave with me Tiamat.

I think we need more discussion here on the take down, in one week, of both the Canadian Epstein, Peter Nygard and the French Epstein, Jean-Luc Brunel. Thats 2 gigantic players in the world wide pedo cabal arrested around the world in one week. There sure has been A LOT more action on this front ever since Ghislane Maxwell was taken into custody, no? I'm sure she is absolutely singing like a canary to anybody who will listen. After all, why should she have any allegiance to any of these people. Her main man is already dead. Major human/child trafficking busts all over the globe, Epsteins 2 biggest foreign cohorts busted almost together. I wonder if old Les Wexner is sleeping soundly at night these days?

originally posted by: CoramDeo

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: CoramDeo
The point I'm trying to make is that there is a solid chance, and reason, for Trump to start a new party. If he wins, dump the Republican party. If he loses, fire up a new party.

And again... there is simply no reason to do that.

All that needs to be done is to finish taking over the R party. This eliminates 98% of the massively hard work that would be needed to start from scratch.

Easily doable, especially if Trump pulls this off.

Wait, so all we have to do is replace 90% of the elected officials in the Republican party, and it's smooth sailing. Silly me.

Look, I saw every single one of my local state officials, including my state senator, state rep, and my congressional representative, ALL solid , logical thinking (or so I thought), conservative representation in central pa buckle 4 days after the election making statements that there was no fraud in the election. Since then, its been nothing but silence.

Not one damn person I voted for stood up, not one. In my eyes, they are like the mother who says nothing to the police out of fear while the father rapes his teenage daghter every night. Get it? Both mom and dad need to face hash punishment.

So don't come at me with all we have to do....were almost there...NO.

These effing people are part of the problem. They are the swamp. I have a whole bevy of other words that more acurately discribe them, but I'll stick with swamp, ATM. So when I hear people say, we just need to do X, or remove Y...I don't subscibe to that line of thinking.

It's time to break out of old habits and ways of thinkng, and the Republican brand just ain't it. Sorry.

I think we all understand why you’re mad - we’re all mad. But you are looking at “replacing 90% of the elected officials in R party” as some insurmountable goal but simultaneously see replacing that same 90% of republicans with people who don’t exist from a party that doesn’t exist in a system that is design to make it nearly impossible for them to exist as a viable goal. No one is saying switching the direction of the R party would be easy or quick. Just easier and quicker. Also consider that when you start a new party and no one really knows anyone else, it’s much easier for pretenders/sleepers to infiltrate.

I’m not opposed to the concept, my life experience just tells me it won’t go the way you think it will go. Hope I’m wrong but the disillusioned years following Regan when lots of Rs looked for a 3rd party and we ended up with Clinton because conservatives were divided tell me I’m not.

a reply to: FinallyFree72

I think it's far more likely for existing parties to splinter or morph the same way we saw happen to the Whigs.

And I think this is a crux point where it could happen to one or both major parties right now. On the one hand you have the very real internal strife of the Democrat party between the more traditional corrupt machine 'Crats and the radical Left, neither is a good option, but both are at loggerheads and could be a fracture point.

An the other, you have the traditional GOPe and the populist Trump faction.

This just popped up on the US Supreme Court site. Just started reading...

www.supremecourt.gov...

If I read this correctly, the court said the President had no standing, and the dissenters argued that they should decide, but against the President. Very interesting.

a reply to: ketsuko

I was kind of hoping that, after the executions for treason, there will only be 5 or six members of each party left...

a reply to: Caled

This is about counting illegal aliens for the Census, right? Of course we have ultra liberal justice Breyer dissenting. We simply CANNOT count illegal aliens in the Census. It goes against everything that the Census is used for. They use the Census to determine the number of Reps a state gets in the House. Also, it is used to determine Electoral Votes for each state. And THIS, I believe is the entre crux of the matter as far as the Dems are concerned. They know that if they count all the illegals in each state, and those numbers contribute the the number of EC votes, that it will give them a permanent boost in EC numbers. This is all a demographic exercise to give the Dems a stranglehold on the House of Representatives, and the Electoral College, and by extension, the Presidential Elections in the future.

Yes, it appears so. If I read it correctly, rather than do their job, they made it sound like the President made a decision which would prevent them from doing their job. I call shenanigans.

originally posted by: PokeyJoe
a reply to: Caled

This is about counting illegal aliens for the Census, right? Of course we have ultra liberal justice Breyer dissenting. We simply CANNOT count illegal aliens in the Census. It goes against everything that the Census is used for. They use the Census to determine the number of Reps a state gets in the House. Also, it is used to determine Electoral Votes for each state. And THIS, I believe is the entre crux of the matter as far as the Dems are concerned. They know that if they count all the illegals in each state, and those numbers contribute the the number of EC votes, that it will give them a permanent boost in EC numbers. This is all a demographic exercise to give the Dems a stranglehold on the House of Representatives, and the Electoral College, and by extension, the Presidential Elections in the future.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: TheBadCabbie
He's supposedly conservative yet has flipped on the cases most important to the preservation of our country, cases about blatant violations of our laws.

Elaboration/evidence/proof please?

He has made statements, documented and some cited in this thread, expressing that he would use his power to prevent Trump from being legally elected.

Elaboration/evidence/proof please?

He's rotten. Are you DEAF AND BLIND?!

I haven't seen anything - other than the comments (taken out of context) about telling people not to vote in the upcoming run-off elections - suggesting anything like what you are accusing him of.

I'm seriously asking for evidence - if you are right, I want to know. I'm not denying anything, just saying I have not seen anything even remotely like what you are accusing him of.

originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
originally posted by: FlyingFox
a reply to: CoramDeo
"People whose politicians have been feeding them contracts, grants, privileges and immunity for decades aren't suddenly going to vote 3rd party."

Good point. Like I said up the page, not impossible, but plenty of those RNC heads are very entrenched. They're not just going to run off crying because someone pinched or pushed them. We're talking about an institution that has long since been corrupted by the globalist cabal, to be clear. Trump got through because he worked that system as far as I can tell, not because that system approved him.

Again - it would be much, much easier to just oust the RINOs.

And in case it isn't obvious - easier, in this case, doesn't equate to easy. Just easier and much much faster and cheaper than trying to build a 3rd party from scratch.

That said - if anyone could do that, Trump probably can...