Odd obelisk found in Utah????

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I am fairly certain it is buried deep in stone......he talks of concrete saws....demolition saws basically.

That implies generators and whatever else needed to do a installation of this nature in a remote area.

The mystery deepens.....

originally posted by: Vasa Croe


Anyone seen this before or know what it is?

i did not notice it before ---- but directly behind the metal object there's a puddle of water... and the narrow crevice in the massive rock appears to be a pathway for the flash flood waters to course through until filling the canyon where the metal monolith stands

perhaps the 12 ft tall metal object is meant to trap high waters from a flash-flood... much like a cacti is a storage plant for desert water...the GPS coordinates might be a lifesaver to someone --- someday

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
The two sat pics clearly show brush in the earlier one and everything looking clean and cleared in the later one with the installation. I have just seen another video where the person who discovered the location on Google earth described how by using the flight data and colours of the canyons in that area he located it.
What really surprises me is nobody knocks their knuckles on the thing to see if solid or not . But if it was obviously just aluminium sheet riveted together you wouldn't bother. So I think that's probably what it is. You can make out the saw marks in the ground Infront in one of the clearer photos.

If anyone has read "Gods Anvil" its the beginning of the end :-P

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Looks like the rear of a nice looking outside shower.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Standard gas powered K-12 saw with concrete blade would do it, and it would cut through sandstone like butter because it's soft. However, it's the next part which is surprising. Once you cut the stone, then you have to chip it out, and this part would not be easy at all.

Secondly, if you plan to dig the hole deeper than one saw cut depth, you have to make the second cut smaller than the first to make room for the saw itself. And then you have to chip that out. Now we're getting really hard! Any more than 2-3 cuts into the rock and you'd really have to cut an oversized hole on the top to make it wide enough on the bottom. Making a cut into rock like sandstone isn't that hard, but chipping the sandstone out of the cut area is fantastically difficult! (because there's no bottom cut).

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Bingo.

I am sure this is man-made, but the time invested in this had to be fairly enormous.

I am shocked nobody has claimed it yet.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I think multiple length way cuts with cutting blade then breaker bar to easily snap off the sections. Wouldn't be hard at all.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

When you find freestanding monuments on any wide open space you should think “outer space”! As in, “As above, so below” because it seems that many cultures around the world practice geomancy where specific constellations are installed on specific places (the Hopi (???) have a huge Orion layout spanning miles across mesas in Arizona/NM (iircc)).

That is almost my first guess after ruling out “mole posts, trap lines, giant Big Black Chocolate floating triangle candies for the holidays,...”

This could be a bright star, like Sirius, (Orion again!), but the surrounding area would have to support that idea.

If so, then you have something!

Or maybe if herds of cow gather around mooing at the top of the hour!!



This is a great find with lots of room to move around with!



ETA: @FCD, you missed it buddy... “... 17 miles as the [Vasa Croe] flies...”

A couple screen shots I took from the video showing the possible saw cuts in the sandstone.

If it is cut into the stone to fit, all that would be needed is a good construction adhesive for stone to metal for fastening it in place. No need for it to be heavy at all. I am thinking 50 to 100 pounds.

As far as construction time for the actual object, an hour or two in a well equipped shop for full assembly or making parts for final assembly. Final assembly if needed should be lass than an hour. The stone cutting, breaking out, and then finishing the hole would take the most time and work. It could only be in the stone a couple of inches if glued in place.

I think it would have been faster and easier to anchor bolt a base plate in place then snap the object on it with a locking fastening system. The plate could be adjusted for level and position so the monolith would be plum and whatever orientation you wanted.

Maybe it is used in a geological survey to measure natural erosion and sediment, or tectonic plates etc. Whoever put it there obviously went to a great deal of effort and it would have to be buried deep enough to withstand the elements and time. With it being made of stainless steel that is corrosion resistant. With it being triangle shape seems like the right thing to do to help guide fast moving water if and when it flash floods. The frontal edge of the monolith/obelisk seems to point directly at the crack where water would rush through and at the foot of the crack in the bedrock looks cut from water rushing through there.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Blame the artists and forget about Area 51 next door, neat!

This must be the Brave New ATS genuine thought cringes at. Welp. We still have cookies tho, and art exhibitions for a few deserted animals and the occasional Ranger. Progress!

a reply to: sean

You are thinking of a survey marker. I have seen many of them and they are only a few inches across and cemented into bedrock.

Survey marker

the rivets are weird, something like that would usually be welded together. How deep is it buried anyways?

Most metal workers or welders could probably walk up to it and feel the thing, take a look at the seems and tell you how it was made and what material it was made out of, has anyone actually done any of those things or is it just a bunch of gawkers and scientists walking around it that know nothing of fabrication?

I would think its either someones art piece and maybe we will find others in random locations in the future? Kinda like a Georgia Guide Stones thing?

Who knows though? someone should go check it out and do more studies on it though.

a reply to: rowdyrich

That is what I thought of also. We went to see the guide stones last year.

2020 just got a lot crazier, if that's even possible LOL...

Unless, could it be, of course, a HEADSTONE for the DNC!

That would be one SERIOUS spot for an ATS meetup though...

It will be interesting to see if the object seen on Google Earth is actually the monolith. If so, it is about 1/4 mile off of Lockhart Basin road. I will check it out on my next trip to Moab if someone doesn't beat me to it. Lockhart Basin is a serious 4x4 road. I barely made it through last spring. One should have a lifted 4x4 with full skid plates, rock sliders, and a locking differential if trying it from the north. Don't take just one vehicle. Be prepared to spend the night. The government's concerns that people trying to visit that area are well founded.

originally posted by: lostgirl
a reply to: Willtell

That's a sound theory Will, but...
I don't think it has anything to do with the 2001 movie, because that monolith was a skinny rectangle, & this one is a triangle...

Your absolutely right, they are different. From some angles, this looks like the tin man. I'm waiting for Dorothy and the scarecrow to show up.