Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

I have forgotten to post the source of Dietrichs comment :

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a reply to: TheMadScientist2

I think there is probably some confusion between AAWSAP and AATIP.

Greene and Elizondo were both assigned to AAWSAP under James Lacatski.

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Who posted this link? It's devastating. I thought I got it from this thread; maybe not.

It totally debunks Vallee and Paola Harris' Trinity. A book, BTW, I never liked.

I haven't examined the whole story closely, but so far, it's devastating to this Trinity pre-Roswell story. And apparently Vallee's influence had the Congress set the investigations all the way back to 45 just so the Trinty story is examined.

I found that Eddie Apodaca was a real New Mexico State Police officer, who was assigned to Socorro County, New Mexico, where Baca and Padilla grew up, in the early 1950s, when they were in their early teens. However, I have documented that Eddie Apodaca was not commissioned as a police officer until January, 1951. In August 1945, the date of the fictional UFO crash, Eddie Apodaca was with his Army unit in Germany. Yes, in August 1945, Apodaca was very much closer to 5-year-old Jacques Vallee than to San Antonio, New Mexico. I obtained documents showing that Apodaca could not have been anywhere in the state of New Mexico until at least three months after the crash—and, again, he was not a police officer until more than five years after the “crash date.”

You see, this is what Im saying.

Exposing a lot of this stuff to serious mainstream journalists, not necessarily professional debunkers, can backfire on these disclosure fanatics.

I'm seeing these people get so obsessed and enthused, and it's worrying that they may be in for a terrible letdown.

I mean, they're talking about revolution and all kinds of crazy stuff on Reddit, and some on YouTube are so fired up.

They're ready to storm Area 51 again.

I wouldn't advise them to try again.

This is very important!
You see, my point is this:

The behind-the-scenes ufo disinformation schemers see clearly in the Qanon era that this is the time to make the move to mainstream ufology and the famous “ Disclosure” movement for the purpose of associating it will Qanon and other weird conspiracy angled groups. That, in the end... when the stories like Trinity are all examined and debunked, will be a boon to the nondisclosure people.

So, if it fails, ufology will forever be relegated to the level of the Qanon squad! No longer a serious field.
Along with the classified defense will bring this to an inglorious end.

a reply to: introufo


Trinity? You mean vallees book? The entire book is trash.

1. Paola leopapardela harris is old school fraudster
2. The ufo artifact turned out to be from the windmill
3. That idiot who was witness tried years ago to sell a bigfoot story.


For some of us 30 years in this #show it takes a lot more to fool. Vallee is old so i cut him slack but damn, bruh you turned 80, time to stop driving or you may kill someone. Your eyes and mind aint what it used to be

a reply to: introufo

I think we have to give the more moderate newbies some slack because they just haven't had the time to absorb all the skullduggery, grift and intel shenanigans that pollute the subject. We have all been there at some point.

However, there is a problem with some of these new, so called 'UFO activists'. They are blinded by belief and not very good at actual research unless it reinforces those beliefs. They are easily manipulated and exceptional at attacking people on social media and things could get worse than that. Unfortunately the most vociferous often get attention. And it looks like their trust in a bunch of spooks is turning over control of the subject to the US military/industiral complex.

a reply to: mirageman

There are a lot of shenanigans!. Was watching this one with Nolan, he brings up David Grusche and that we will be seeing more of him seemingly.



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a reply to: IMSAM

Trinity? You mean vallees book? The entire book is trash.

I agree, and the link shows it.
I figured there was something odd about that book when Vallee originally postponed it and then later added Paola as an author and issued it later.

a reply to: mirageman


This is really going to be something interesting to watch
You mention things getting worse is ominous.
Some ufo cults have been very sinister
Will they create another cult here?

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: introufo

...there is a problem with some of these new, so called 'UFO activists'. They are blinded by belief and not very good at actual research unless it reinforces those beliefs. They are easily manipulated and exceptional at attacking people on social media and things could get worse than that. Unfortunately the most vociferous often get attention. And it looks like their trust in a bunch of spooks is turning over control of the subject to the US military/industiral complex.

Sadly, such confirmation bias is acute and ubiquitous in this realm. It used to be easier sorting and weaving our way through such noise, but the noise is getting louder and has found ways to exponentially multiply falsehood such that even the most minuscule morsels of truth are ever harder to ascertain.

But thanks for your continued efforts in this regard!

John Ramirez claims that the disclosure was designed by US intelligence but many people would be involved (Elizondo, Delonge, Semivan, Puthoff, Bigelow, Mellon, Fravor, Graves, Grusch ...)
Are all these people accomplices? Or they may be unknowingly involved ...

Where are elizondo and levenda/delonge's books??

Hi folks....yes its me Celltypspecific... I remember when you all laughed 3 years ago.

You did not TRUST BIG LUE.... I guess BIG LUE and I were right after all

I hope miremen is ok... I am sure he's suffering ontological shock

a reply to: Celltype

You do make me chuckle Celty. I expected you would be here soon.

Source: “I am so proud”: blink-182’s Tom DeLonge celebrates being right about aliens

“The UFO Hearings today made history,” Tom wrote. “I am so proud of the three witnesses today that blew the lid off the UFO secrecy that has been intact for decades. Graves, Fravor and Grusch are HEROES. I appreciated the shout-out during the hearing, but so many were involved with @tothestars.media to make this happen. Get your shirt now, and remember that we at To The Stars changed the world.”

Speaking to The Independent, the blink frontman also proudly enthused: “Everything that is happening right now is 100 per cent because of To The Stars. I mean, I’ve known this, and my guys know this… we really feel, in our company, we’ve really changed the course of the world.”

Source: Blink-182’s Tom DeLonge on his mission to prove ‘Aliens Exist’, a newfound UFO fandom - and the Kardashians

Tom DeLonge took a hiatus from Blink-182 to feed his lifelong extraterrestrial passion. Eight years later, as Congress holds historic hearings on UFOs, he tells Sheila Flynn: ‘This was all part of the plan’

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originally posted by: Celltype

You did not TRUST BIG LUE....

Still don't mate.

originally posted by: Celltype

I guess BIG LUE and I were right after all

Right about what?

a reply to: karl 12

Isn't Lue supposed to be dropping a bombshell soon?

a reply to: Celltype

Rumours of mireman's ontological shock have been greatly exaggerated.


Whoever that is?

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: karl 12

Isn't Lue supposed to be dropping a bombshell soon?

Rumours of BF Lue's diarrhoea have been greatly exaggerated.

It's all so well scripted like a movie---Oppenheimer and even Barbie are more real than this psyop part II.

...That is to the weary and not the unwary virgins of ufo lore.

I just hope Tom sticks with TTSA and doesn't bring back Blink. We have enough Lame R&R as it is....