Corona Virus Updates Part 5

a reply to: musicismagic

Cool. May I add that you could also put a HEPA filter fthat you get with vacuum bags into this [it is N95 safe, not bad]. Not that this will help much but it's better than nothing.

a reply to: peter_kandra

Hopefully it will only be a few weeks. Yesterday governor Cuomo of NY shared some models which showed that this could be ongoing past July. I truly hope that is not the case.

Stay safe my friend. I am happy to hear that some out there are taking things seriously, and have prepared.

a reply to: Hecate666

Hey you are welcome.
I'll look into the bag thing.
One thing is for sure, when the major cities start getting hit, it simply can not cope with the onslaught of patients. Keep in mind that this nation has a lot of old people. Any type of face covering should be mandatory these days.

The numbers in the United States seem a little concerning.

New York numbers are sky rocketing. I know in Kansas, they haven't really been testing a lot since they don't have the tests to perform them on a mass scale like they are doing in New York. Is this the case elsewhere? I would think California would by sky rocketing as well. But it isn't.

Which makes me wonder, did someone(s) purposely spread the virus in New York? Or is New York just more densely populated?

I saw on article on CNN that said there is evidence the virus can be spread just through talking or breathing, not just coughing or sneezing.

originally posted by: ShortBus
The numbers in the United States seem a little concerning.

New York numbers are sky rocketing. I know in Kansas, they haven't really been testing a lot since they don't have the tests to perform them on a mass scale like they are doing in New York. Is this the case elsewhere? I would think California would by sky rocketing as well. But it isn't.

Which makes me wonder, did someone(s) purposely spread the virus in New York? Or is New York just more densely populated?

I saw on article on CNN that said there is evidence the virus can be spread just through talking or breathing, not just coughing or sneezing.

I don't think anyone can say for sure on any of those questions.

I did read a story on Fox the other day about a church choir that all got it though.

Basically it was a choir practice. 60 people attended. It was early on, but they were using the safety guidelines. No shaking hands/hugging, distance between them, hand sanitizer at the door. No one there seemed to be sick. 45 out of the 60 became infected, 2 have died and a couple of more in ICU.

So from that report, it looks to have spread from one person, to 45, with no coughing or sneezing.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

That's where I have my Clinic. I made a point of only going there once to see clients/patients during that week. Locals were up in arms and local MP Alex Chalk didn't pass any comment about the local outrage, didn't answer any emails leading up to this event...

Angry Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: MrRCflying
My problem is with this particular poster. From day one he has made it clear he does not care how many people die, as long as they economy is not hurt. At one point, he basically called for the wholesale culling of old and weak. He is a sickening human being.

Self-censored...

End press conference for today in the Netherlands.

www.youtube.com...

@ -37.19 @ the video becomes interesting from there. (frng fck utube lsrs i cant get the timeframe correct). Look for the guy in the blue T-shirt.

A guy steps into the frame. Clearly speaking to people, seems close. Look further ahead, people walking by. No masks, no nothing. After the press conference this vid is quite interesting.

They are on the left thinking they are out of frame. But they are not.

Throughout the whole aftermath of the press conference in the vid people just walk by. Doing there thing. Smiling, making jokes it even seems. Not far apart from each other, no mask, no gloves. Pay attention!

a reply to: musicismagic

Just wanted to make sure you or anyone else trying this knows exactly what I am on about.
When you buy vacuum bags for cleaners that have a dust filter in them. For example we have a Miele with HEPA filter and you buy the bags for them, you also get a sheet of filter with it. Quite big actually, others get them pre moulded. I think the cheaper, the more you get but I don't know how efficient the filter will be.
Anyways, the 'official' HEPA filter sheets are rated N95, so as useful as the second most used filter against virus sizes.
I have planned to use them in this way for some time but didn't know how easily you can make a face mask.

It seems now most come in moulds. Still, if you have a sheet of that lying around, like I do, you can stick it into the face mask as well.
Kind of these ones:
i.pinimg.com...

Hopefully tennisdawg posts some new info

Cuomo showing one of the models. Notice the peak, but then still a high level heading out past August. That level is just about where we are now in April. I assume that means we will still be seeing 25,000 infections a day and 1,000 deaths a day in the US for months after the peak.

We are not going to be past this for a while I am afraid.

Current CFR rate. We've hit 20%.



www.worldometers.info...

Well, here's NY's updates looks like another hefty jump at this rate I'm guessing by the 7th we could be over 100,000. Yesterday we were at 83901 today we are at 92381, 2373 have past on:
www.worldometers.info...

a reply to: Chance321

NY is adding 7-8K a day. It will be over 100K by tomorrow not the 7th. By the 7th it will be over 150K.

EMTs have stopped taking people in cardiac arrest to coronavirus-strained hospitals

Previously, people whose hearts could not be restarted on the scene would be brought to the hospital. But the new guidance is a grim calculus that’s meant to save lives, one veteran EMS worker told The Post. “They’re trying to do what they can with the people who have the most likely chance of being saved,” the worker said. Under the rule, “if you can’t get revived on scene, that’s it. They’re going to work on you, but if they can’t get a pulse back, they won’t transport you” to the hospital, the worker explained. The decree — which took effect immediately — comes as city ERs and intensive care units are swollen with critically ill coronavirus patients.

nypost.com... H39H-MqIi071wk-KsDo

But some people in this thread think anyone not sick with no underlying health issues should just go on about their business. Get back to work like normal because it's overhyped. Completely ignoring the fact that you can spread it with no symptoms and the mortality rate is higher than we can handle.

a reply to: blazinx

I'll *second* that!

Back at end of January when masks started to get sucked up at local hardware stores, I went on Amazon and found only a few N95 respirator masks that seemed like they were available but had a 3 week wait time. I ordered them and received them over a month ago.

Hadn't even opened up the package until today. I think now is the time to start wearing them when going out in public. Especially with studies showing that it can spread through just breathing and talking and LA Mayor telling people to not go outside without a mouth covering.

Granted, I live in KC, not LA, but it's just a matter of time before its required.

originally posted by: ShortBus
The numbers in the United States seem a little concerning.

New York numbers are sky rocketing. I know in Kansas, they haven't really been testing a lot since they don't have the tests to perform them on a mass scale like they are doing in New York. Is this the case elsewhere? I would think California would by sky rocketing as well. But it isn't.

Which makes me wonder, did someone(s) purposely spread the virus in New York? Or is New York just more densely populated?

New York City is a huge international hub, with multiple airports, multiple ship docks, and travel in and out of state (outlying communities with international hubs connect via train and other methods.)

In a pandemic, it's a disaster waiting to happen.

Trump restricted SOME (but not all) passenger flights in and out of New York but never banned cargo or other types of airline interactions (such as jets from China landing there that had picked up people in other areas of the world.)

If you look at the spread of the infection maps, you will see that it always starts in huge cities with multiple airports and ripples out from there.

originally posted by: pasiphae
a reply to: Chance321

NY is adding 7-8K a day. It will be over 100K by tomorrow not the 7th. By the 7th it will be over 150K.

I was hoping we'd hit a slow patch. LOL. But yeah, I think it'll most likely be sooner.

a reply to: ShortBus
Yeah, I believe I've reached the point where I'm going to start wearing mine. I've noticed more people in the stores around me wearing them.