Corona Virus Updates Part 3

a reply to: FamCore

No worries, no hatin. I asked a question. Then offered my explanation. Hope it’s not a 2nd strain.

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: FamCore

No worries, no hatin. I asked a question. Then offered my explanation. Hope it’s not a 2nd strain.

Surely not. A 2nd strain. one in China and one in Iran. Interesting wouldn't it be.

The Iranian strain according to this guy is deadly. He says it’s really bad. According to Dr. John Campbell, on YouTube. I dunno maybbe hysteria or it might be a mutated strain I am sure we will find out.

I am sorry for this, but sometimes it feels like the people in charge get a bit confused by these things. Plus, every so often, I feel we could lighten our mood a bit.

Sorry if it's a bad meme.

This is a very different message than we have been receiving in Canada. It stems from the discovery of the “sentinel” case in BC - the woman from Iran with no connection to China. The narrative and tone is changing.

"Globally, we will not be able to contain the spread of this virus. We can slow it down, but we can't stop it," said Dr. Allison McGeer, an infectious diseases specialist at Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital who worked on the front lines of the SARS epidemic in 2003.

"It's in our hands now," Tedros said. "If we do well within the narrowing window of opportunity, we can avert any serious crisis. If we squander the opportunity, then there will be a serious problem on our hands."

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: Bicent
The Iranian strain according to this guy is deadly. He says it’s really bad. According to Dr. John Campbell, on YouTube. I dunno maybbe hysteria or it might be a mutated strain I am sure we will find out.

Could it be that the virus is designed to mutate and become more virulent/aggressive. Is that what is happening in China!

a reply to: NxNWest

Woman from Iran?

That might be the "new" strain ... maybe that will shed some light on if they are actually dealing with something different in Iran or not.

Sometimes virus mutating can be double-edged sword for virus, more difficult to hide then, i dont know does that apply to coronaviruses thought

The flu virus's ability to mutate may sometimes be its downfall

Well, I'll post again because it appears my sense of humour was a bit too tasty last time, so it got deleted.

Coronavirus has been confirmed found in urine
www.globaltimes.cn...

a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

from a post i made on p212

Two nonsynonymous changes took place in the viral strains isolated from the family, according to a new study by Professor Cui Jie and colleagues at the Institut Pasteur of Shanghai.
This case indicated “viral evolution may have occurred during person-to-person transmission”, they wrote in the paper published in the journal National Science Review on January 29.

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
Well, I'll post again because it appears my sense of humour was a bit too tasty.

Coronavirus has been confirmed found in urine
www.globaltimes.cn...

I'm confused though. I wonder if a kindly MOD could advise me on this; was it the use of the word pi$$, or was it golden showers that went too far before?

Cheers

a reply to: Agit8dChop

bnonews.com...

There are currently 77,976 confirmed cases worldwide, including 2,362 fatalities.

a reply to: Kenzo

Also, if it mutates to become too deadly, it runs the risk of burning out before it can spread widely. There's a sweet spot for them, and they go too much one way or the other, the epidemic can burn out. But there is some wiggle room in there.

a reply to: ketsuko

Sounds harsh to say it but burning its self out by killing a small % of the worlds population wouldn’t be the worst outcome for the worlds population ( sucks to be in that small % I know) but a virus that has a drawn out painful slow death (for me personally ) would be worse, I’d rather go out fast than die drowning in my own fluids tbh!
(Sorry if that offends some people just my personal view on dying)

a reply to: ketsuko

Yeeh, do you know what happened to Spanish flu strain ? did it burn out or why it stopped at some point ?

a reply to: Kenzo

from wiki

After the lethal second wave struck in late 1918, new cases dropped abruptly – almost to nothing after the peak in the second wave.[57] In Philadelphia, for example, 4,597 people died in the week ending 16 October, but by 11 November, influenza had almost disappeared from the city. One explanation for the rapid decline of the lethality of the disease is that doctors got better at preventing and treating the pneumonia that developed after the victims had contracted the virus; but John Barry stated in his book that researchers have found no evidence to support this.[14]

Another theory holds that the 1918 virus mutated extremely rapidly to a less lethal strain. This is a common occurrence with influenza viruses: There is a tendency for pathogenic viruses to become less lethal with time, as the hosts of more dangerous strains tend to die out[14]

A reply to Oppenheimer67
In reply to “the missing post”
Your never gonna know because even the question asking what was wrong was removed lol

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Kenzo

Also, if it mutates to become too deadly, it runs the risk of burning out before it can spread widely. There's a sweet spot for them, and they go too much one way or the other, the epidemic can burn out. But there is some wiggle room in there.

Deadly isn't really what causes something to burn out quickly, it's how fast it incapacitates, fast incubation, etc.

This way it burns through a population very fast, but too fast for anyone to have had the legs to get it out of a village for example. They could all survive, but it has still burned itself out, so mortality isn't the key factor in burn out.

Scary thought is that something like this, long incubation, quickly contagious, slow to incapacitate is bad enough at low CFR. A bad Ebola has ~95% CFR. If nCoV had, or mutated, to have 95% CFR but still long time walking about symptom-less/contagious etc, the only thing to limit it's spread would be the ultimate thinning out of the world population after 60-80% are already infected. Not really burning out, just everything has burned down. I don't think this is likely though.

originally posted by: Adphil28
A reply to Oppenheimer67
In reply to “the missing post”
Your never gonna know because even the question asking what was wrong was removed lol

Yeah you can see which way this is going... in 3 posts time I'm going to be banned. Still, had a chuckle to myself.

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