President Trump is Cancelling the Illegal ObamaCare CSR Insurance Company Payments

originally posted by: Dudemo5

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Dudemo5

I DON'T need it. I make six figures.

You are so cool.

Stop asking for socialist solutions then, rich boi.

Stop whining like a child.

I'm not asking for socialist solutions. I'm expressing my belief that socialized medicine is cheaper and better for society as a whole.

No.

Rich boi.

You just want me to take responsibility for someone else's medical problems.

a reply to: spiritualzombie

Really? I pay about £8000 a year (about $11000) for the NHS.
Last time I went to the doctor, she looked up my symptoms on the internet, called in another doctor who promptly helped her browse, and they sent me away with a prescription I later found out is available over the counter at the pharmacy.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Dudemo5

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Dudemo5

I DON'T need it. I make six figures.

You are so cool.

Stop asking for socialist solutions then, rich boi.

Stop whining like a child.

I'm not asking for socialist solutions. I'm expressing my belief that socialized medicine is cheaper and better for society as a whole.

No.

Rich boi.

You just want me to take responsibility for someone else's medical problems.

You should try openeing your mind to something better than a for-profit insurance middleman with a proven track record of bankrupting families who need healthcare.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: MOMof3

And it will be a tangible loss to millions of people..

TANGIBLE LOSS TO MILLIONS??? That's a Democrat talking point with no basis in fact. Losses for the few remaining ObamaCare insurance companies, but not for insurance customers/patients.

When premiums went 35%-50% per year from 2013 to 2017, the Obama Administration said, "That's OK, because 85% of ObamaCare customers get Instant Tax Credits to keep their premium low. And...73% of those customers pay less than $100 dollars a month. They will continue to do so, no matter how high the premiums go!"

Naturally, Obama's brown-nosing liberal media re-broadcasted those words, every year, at right about this time.

But this year, the same idiot media is saying that the 35% increase in Illinois and the 45% increase in Florida..and many other states, for 2018.. is Trump's fault.

The TRUTH is that 85% of ObamaCare customers have limits on how much of their income they have to pay each month for health insurance. The range is from 2.04% of monthly income for someone who earns about $13,000 per year...up to 9.69% of income, for someone who earns $48,000 per year.

If premiums go up 500% next year, people who earn between $13,000 and $48,000 will pay no more than they do now.

It's those who earn above $48,000 who get screwed year after year. Most of them are no longer on ObamaCare health insurance anyway. They've obtained alternate coverage. (STM, MediShare, VA, etc.)

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Dudemo5

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Dudemo5

I DON'T need it. I make six figures.

You are so cool.

Stop asking for socialist solutions then, rich boi.

Stop whining like a child.

I'm not asking for socialist solutions. I'm expressing my belief that socialized medicine is cheaper and better for society as a whole.

No.

Rich boi.

You just want me to take responsibility for someone else's medical problems.

This is a sociological issue. The opinion of any specific individual is irrelevant. So no, I don't particularly care about your opinion on the matter.

Also, your continued attempts to make this personal just tell me you don't have any real argument to make.

a reply to: Dudemo5

a reply to: spiritualzombie

You two are bound and determined to make me pay for your healthcare.

No.

Responsibility. Learn about that word.

I will fight to pay for your healthcare.

It is not my responsibility. It is yours.

a reply to: DBCowboy

How do you feel about paying for their highways?

a reply to: DBCowboy


I'm not looking for you to pay for my healthcare. I can pay my own healthcare. I'm talking about a better system.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

How do you feel about paying for their highways?

False equivalence. We can't all be responsible for our own highway.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

How do you feel about paying for their highways?

I drive on 'em, so I'll pony up for the roads.

a reply to: DBCowboy

And you and your family don't use health care.
Got it.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Really? I pay about £8000 a year (about $11000) for the NHS, just in national Insurance contributions.
Last time I went to the doctor, she looked up my symptoms on the internet, called in another doctor who promptly helped her browse, and they sent me away with a prescription I later found out is available over the counter at the pharmacy.

Why don't you start a thread describing what you know about the NHS system in the United Kingdom, UKTruth? Americans think everyone in England and Canada get free, or almost free, medical care. We Americans really do need to be educated by those of you who are living under those National Health Systems.

Particularly now that the U.S. is coming up on a BIG decision point soon. About 30 million chronically ill people will need coverage after the ObamaCare private market totally crashes.

I think those 30 million should be folded into Medicare, along with the Seniors, and the funding of that program boosted. But the Bernie Sanders' National Health System advocates want every single American to be in that type of system. That type of overkill thinking is what made ObamaCare such a hideous drag on society.

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: DBCowboy


I'm not looking for you to pay for my healthcare. I can pay my own healthcare. I'm talking about a better system.

No you're not.

You're looking at a socialist system.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: DBCowboy

And you and your family don't use health care.
Got it.

I pay for it. I own it. I am responsible for it.

I'd like to see the candy-assed socialist pansies say the god-damned thing.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I own it.

Sort of. I guess. But not really. It can be revoked, can it not?


Your words are beginning to resemble a ceasar salad.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: DBCowboy


I'm not looking for you to pay for my healthcare. I can pay my own healthcare. I'm talking about a better system.

No you're not.

You're looking at a socialist system.

I'm looking at a single payer system, where the for-profit insurance middle man is replace with auditible non-profit system, where the money you put in actually means something. You're not told you're not covered and you're not sent a giant bill. You pay and you get the healthcare you need. And families don't go bankrupt. No co-pays. No deductibles.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You two are bound and determined to make me pay for your healthcare.

I'd help pay for yours, if I knew it would help you stay well.

*shrug*

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: DBCowboy

You two are bound and determined to make me pay for your healthcare.

I'd help pay for yours, if I knew it would help you stay well.

*shrug*

NO!

Jesus!

It's not your responsibility.

IT IS MINE.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: DBCowboy

You two are bound and determined to make me pay for your healthcare.

I'd help pay for yours, if I knew it would help you stay well.

*shrug*

NO!

Jesus!

It's not your responsibility.

IT IS MINE.

But what if you couldn't?

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: DBCowboy


I'm not looking for you to pay for my healthcare. I can pay my own healthcare. I'm talking about a better system.

A "better system" will come with great financial pain and sacrifice by every American, so long as demand for THE BEST medical care is so high.

Now...if we lower our standards, and are willing to endure a bit more pain, engage in more self-diagnosis and treatment...LOWER THE DEMAND.. costs will come down, and a Universal Health Care system would cost less.

If America switched over to the most recent proposal from Bernie Sanders, each of the 300 million men/women/children who are citizens of this country, will need to pay $10,000 a year. But it would be a World-Class Platinum Plated health plan for everyone...complete with Dental, and $0 Deductible, and only a small co-pay for all prescriptions.

It would start at $10,000 per American citizen, and go up from there. Is it worth it? We could try. If it doesn't work out, private companies would rush right back in after the crash. Just like they are now preparing to do now, as ObamaCare comes to an end. (I'm getting the e-mails from them as we speak.)