All cops are crooked...seriously

Wolfmentality, LMAO. That was a funny post. Man, I'm still laughing right now. LMMFAO!

Yeah, cops suck. They're the REAL cowards. They pull over a car 2 deep, all of a sudden 2 more cop cars show up. Guns, badges, vests, dogs, dispatch, and they're still crooked cowards.

In the city I stay in now, cops harass and kill black people with the quickness. With the killing, it's in situations when the person obviously would've been spared if they were white. Cops are stupid pricks.

Anyone who likes cops, disagree with me if you like. I still think cops suck. They're filthy, corrupt pigs. Always looking to harass someone. Never serve and protect. They should all roll around in some mud and eat slops like the disgusting trash that they are.

There is a definite cop mentality and they have senses of purpose and humor that set them apart. I've worked with cops on my former job and while they're nice folks generally, they exist in a world of their own, hanging out with one another and pumping each other up. It's a culture and self doubt is not a common trait in that culture.

They have hard jobs and the stress is extraordinary. They survive the best they can under the circumstances doing what has to be done with low pay and too few thanks. They're not my favorite people to hang with, but thank God we have them.

[edit on 05/3/1 by GradyPhilpott]

anyone seen the daily news?well heres the front page headline.....
exclusive
Have you been charged with laundering money,grand larceny,assault or weapons possession?NYPD still says...
YOU'RE HIRED!

well that pretty much sums it up.looks like all the anti cop peeps(including me) in these threads were right.'nuff said.

Originally posted by Drew Da General
anyone seen the daily news?well heres the front page headline.....
exclusive
Have you been charged with laundering money,grand larceny,assault or weapons possession?NYPD still says...
YOU'RE HIRED!

well that pretty much sums it up.looks like all the anti cop peeps(including me) in these threads were right.'nuff said.

Yes...THIS WAS BEFORE THEY WERE COPS AND BEFORE THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION WAS COMPLETE....just dont get half the story and quote it as the truth...and by the way...charged doesnt equal guilty...

it appears that most of us can agree to disagree. i'm a firm believer in law enforcement.

i've chosen to NOT be on the wrong side of the law my entire life...........well with the occasional speeding infraction.........but that's beside the point.

i believe officers are for the most part here to "protect and serve". as i said early on in this thread...........there ARE bad cops.........but there are also many good ones.......just like in any other line of work.

i thank god they are there for my protection.


angie

Well I'm a professional making a great living here in New Jersey and practically everyone that I know hates cops. They do have a bad attitude. The majority of cops were the cool, popular, bully in high school. After high school all their friends go away to college, they become cops so they can keep bullying people and be in a position of power. They certainly ALL are on a huge power trip, if I've ever seen one. Cops are the definition of power trip! What other career is worse when it comes to inflating someones head full of hot air? Tell me.

To make matters worse, cops are the biggest hypocrites. A good number of them uses steroids. Fact. Steroids are a huge problem in our society that mostly goes unnoticed. That ripped guy with huge abs and biceps at the beach? Roids. Anyway how can cops go abusing a substance and then go arrest someone else for it? How can they speed for no reason at all and then pull someone else over? Cops turn on their lights all the time to go through red lights or avoid traffic, JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN. And it's BS!

That keg they confiscated from the high school party? It's back at the station being guzzled down by some cops in the back that nobody in the public will see. That MJ they got from an illegal search at that guys apartment? Their smoking it at home after they get off work or giving it to another cop in exchange for a 20. Meanwhile the cute girl that has a good crying act gets let off the hook.

I'm really curious why it never seems cops are going after the real bad guys. Instead they spend their day pulling over speeders, people who didn't use turn signals or didn't come to complete stops. Then they treat us like criminals. They should really be out arresting drug dealers, doing some undercover work, or something constructive.

I'll never forget the day a few years back when I was with a friend in my car, waiting in a church parking lot for our friend who lived across the street. So there we are, the only car in a church parking lot when a cop rolls up. Next thing I know he is making us get out of the car and is frisking us! What did we do wrong? Then he tells me that he must search my trunk for "hand grenades". That's what he said. He never even asked if we had a gun.. he said something along the lines of "You don't have any hand grenades in your car, do you?". I almost wanted to laugh because it was ridiculous but he was serious. Anyway having nothing to hide, I gladly got frisked and let him search my car. It doesn't stop the fact that this was completely uncalled for, and probably a violation of our rights, and a complete waste of time.

Also whats up with cops having to meet quotas? You better be careful the last week of the month because thats the week they all start pulling people over and making arrests, so they can make their quotas. I guess they have a certain number of arrests for hand grenades that they must make each month.

BTW one of my best friends father was the head cop in a town near here. He just got arrested last week for accepting cash bribes and numerous other cash deals. They are all corrupt and I can bet you that 99% of cops make extra cash income that they don't report. Whether its accepting cash bribes or arresting that drug dealer and stealing half his wad of cash, they are ALL GUILTY.

I'm starting to notice that all you people from Pit States (as in states that once you fall into, you're stuck there for awhile and it ain't pretty). Geez, hostile public, horrible job, horrible pay, and you expect paragons of virtue. The system screws them, you try to screw them, and then you complain about how they're all corrupt with nearly no evidence. I'm not saying all cops are great, but I'm saying that they're better than most- as in they don't drag gutter runners out and shoot them.

However, I'm startign to think that in some cases, that's a mistake.

A lot of you people are young, you'll grow out of the '# the po-lice' mentality in a few years. Until then, go back to watching teen titans.

DE

I agree, I think most cops mean well, it's always the rotten egg in the dozen that makes others look bad, imo.

The problem is their training..

Police are trained in what I call, "Negative Physcology"
They're like machines designed to spot problems...
it's great that there's people out there who can scare people into conformity... sometimes that's needed to keep people grounded perhaps... but really it isn't the best way to use physcology... it's improper if anything... and the force they claim is necessary sometimes.... sometimes things can be dealt with IN TIME, but police want to go for the "Take Down" and do things as quick as possible... granted things can sometimes get out of control, our mentality has to change, violence cannot be fought with violence, we have to use words.. getting angry and violent is being weak, as officers protecting man-kind "society" they should have better tools than guns, tasers, billy-clubs, rubber-bullets, tear-gas, and police cars and vans... They should show some intelligence in the non-violent approach instead of cutting edge weaponry approach.... It's my opinion wars are started and ended with words, not casualties.. even though the words lead to casualties and the casualties lead to words, it is words in the end that will justify.

Originally posted by dnero6911
sometimes things can be dealt with IN TIME, but police want to go for the "Take Down" and do things as quick as possible... granted things can sometimes get out of control, our mentality has to change, violence cannot be fought with violence, we have to use words.. getting angry and violent is being weak, as officers protecting man-kind "society" they should have better tools than guns, tasers, billy-clubs, rubber-bullets, tear-gas, and police cars and vans... They should show some intelligence in the non-violent approach instead of cutting edge weaponry approach.

Issues are as follows:

1. Communication is all well and good, and police try to use it. But they generally have other problems, and don't want to go home in a body bag. Communication only works so often. Some people simply cannot be reasoned with.

2. There are not enough police to go around. They have to be three places at once, and don't have time to dick around with guy waving a baseball bat. Taser time for Mr. Socially Maladjusted.

3. Intelligence is employed. But you know what? If the criminals EVER get the upper hand in any way, manner, or form it generally means a dead or dying officer.

4. Criminals -hell, the public as a whole- is belligerent towards them. Intimidation helps, a lot. As soon as people see the police show up, the distinction is made between the troublemakers and the guys who back down quietly. Troublemakers get the baton and the spray, and the guys who back down and tell the truth might jsut spend a few minutes in cuffs.

The issue isn't officers, it's the public.

DE

Originally posted by DeusEx

Originally posted by dnero6911

Issues are as follows:

1. Communication is all well and good, and police try to use it. But they generally have other problems, and don't want to go home in a body bag. Communication only works so often. Some people simply cannot be reasoned with.

2. There are not enough police to go around. They have to be three places at once, and don't have time to dick around with guy waving a baseball bat. Taser time for Mr. Socially Maladjusted.

3. Intelligence is employed. But you know what? If the criminals EVER get the upper hand in any way, manner, or form it generally means a dead or dying officer.

4. Criminals -hell, the public as a whole- is belligerent towards them. Intimidation helps, a lot. As soon as people see the police show up, the distinction is made between the troublemakers and the guys who back down quietly. Troublemakers get the baton and the spray, and the guys who back down and tell the truth might jsut spend a few minutes in cuffs.

The issue isn't officers, it's the public.

DE

excellent points................we lost a wonderful young female officer here 3yrs ago. a patient that had been sent to a local hospital for a psych exam escaped custody..........she reported to the area and began a search. she was working alone because of shortage of officers.

she found the guy..........radioed for backup.........got out of her car and proceeded to COMMUNICATE with him..........she didn't draw her weapon. he got in too close to her..........took her down and used her own weapon to kill her with. shot her multiple times in the chest.

when backup arrived she was already dead.
she was to be married in 3months.

communication is very important but obviously she was dealing with a nutcase.........who wasn't hearing any of it.

all you folks out there bashing cops.............would YOU want to take their job on...............for the pay they make?? would you put your butt on the line day in and day out knowing there are people out there that hate the very ground you walk on???? would you want to get up and leave your home every morning........kiss your wife or husband and kids good bye and NOT know if you would make it home that night.

come ON people...............yes there are BAD ONES..............but there are a HECK of a lot of good ones out there that don't deserve the disrespect that is given to them.


angie

[edit on 11-3-2005 by amb1063]

Of course those are good points...

What you're forgetting to realize is... We're all respondsible for our OWN safety... not my fault they wanna play superman ...

LIVE by the GUN, DIE by the GUN....

Boo Hoo 82 officers have been killed.... those 82 officers have injured or killed hundreds of people to "protect" their neck because they wanted to play cowboys and indians...
it's irrelevant how many officers died if you're not going to post how many civilians PER officer had been injured, improperly "processed", or been the subject of power abuse, just because someone had a hate on for you.

Just like those life changing minutes the officer made a mistake
normal civilians make mistakes too....
Funny thing is, when officers make mistakes, you can crack it up to training, and they magically get laid off WITH pay ... nice vacation for the sacrafice of another dead nobody...

EDIT

In response to the theres some GOOD ONES and some BAD ONES....
That's true anywhere you go..
interesting enough ... (Using the RCMP incident recently)
Now that ONE crazy @sshole decides he doesn't like police bugging him, all cannabis farmers are now looked at as "dangerous"
they all get painted with the brush of his stupidity ... why? ..

Question their motives and their tactics... pretty funny how the representitive almost made a boo-boo talking about it and said Strategy instead of Tragedy ..

THEY KNEW he was mentally unstable and a threat... so they sent the most inexperienced officers as the sacrifice... just so they can clamp down on cannabis and guns...
sure clamp down on guns, their useless... but gimmie a break ... a plant?

This world is going to the dogs.... Canada and the US are ***SLOWLY*** becoming police states.. and you're all allowing it, because you all like superheros who fight your crime FOR you... Fight crime for yourself... DON'T DO IT ...

[edit on 11/3/05 by dnero6911]

Originally posted by dnero6911
What you're forgetting to realize is... We're all respondsible for our OWN safety... not my fault they wanna play superman ...

Yeah, that's true. Except people don't want to. I'd be nice if the citizenry could protect itself. And when did altruism become such a horrible virtue?

LIVE by the GUN, DIE by the GUN....

Exactly. If you give a cop so much as the idea that you have a weapon, be prepared to be perforated. And I will not cry a single tear when you do get full of holes, because the police are all about coming home at the end of the day.

Boo Hoo 82 officers have been killed.... those 82 officers have injured or killed hundreds of people to "protect" their neck because they wanted to play cowboys and indians...

That is just FLAT OUT idiocy. Cops don't want to dick around with weapons- first part of training involves getting a face full of pepper spray, being tasered, etc. Before you talk smack about those eighty-two heroes, let me ask you this- are you willing to go out on a job where the public hates you, where any punkass is willing to shoot you to duck a fifty dollar ticket, just to help people? You don't know anything about LEOs, so why don't you grow up a bit?

it's irrelevant how many officers died if you're not going to post how many civilians PER officer had been injured, improperly "processed", or been the subject of power abuse, just because someone had a hate on for you.

Improper processing results in release, which is why officer go out of their way to avoid it. Injuries and death? Jeez, maybe you shouldn't have resisted. People who complain about power abuse probably lipped off to some officer and got a ticket instead of a warning. Least you could do is be polite when talking to them.

Just like those life changing minutes the officer made a mistake
normal civilians make mistakes too....

Actions always have consequences. Police officers have the SIU looking over their shoulders- civvies have cops looking over theirs. Why not grow some personal responsibility?

Funny thing is, when officers make mistakes, you can crack it up to training, and they magically get laid off WITH pay ... nice vacation for the sacrafice of another dead nobody...

Now, you're just not making sense. You can't be laid off with pay. That's like saying 'you're fired, but we'll still send you a paycheck every month'. Every time an officer shoots someone, there is an investigation, as well as mandatory suspension and psychologist visits. What you're doing here is talking **** about stuff you know nothing about.

EDIT

In response to the theres some GOOD ONES and some BAD ONES....
That's true anywhere you go..
interesting enough ... (Using the RCMP incident recently)
Now that ONE crazy @sshole decides he doesn't like police bugging him, all cannabis farmers are now looked at as "dangerous"
they all get painted with the brush of his stupidity ... why?

Oh no! criminals have been painted as dangerous, dread! Grow houses are usually financed by bikers, so what're the odds that someone dangerous checks in every now and again? 5-10% of growhouses have weapons in them. Anyways, you're doing a plenty fine job painting the police all with teh same brush.

Question their motives and their tactics... pretty funny how the representitive almost made a boo-boo talking about it and said Strategy instead of Tragedy ..

Oh no, a slip of the tongue! Well, we do need a new strategy to get rid of grow houses. I do question the police tactics, because grow houses are getting more and more dangerous. Motives? drugs, especially weed, are a multibillion dollar a year bussiness for organized crime. Mobsters are BAD.

THEY KNEW he was mentally unstable and a threat... so they sent the most inexperienced officers as the sacrifice... just so they can clamp down on cannabis and guns...
sure clamp down on guns, their useless... but gimmie a break ... a plant?

That's some impressive pile of BS you just spouted. those officers were guarding a supposedly empty warehouse. Tactical teams didn't find him, and he didn't turn up overnight as they looked for him- they say he might have been aided. who knows- mistakes were made, yes, but not for the sake of some stupid plant. Law enforcement already comes down hard on it, remember?

This world is going to the dogs.... Canada and the US are ***SLOWLY*** becoming police states.. and you're all allowing it, because you all like superheros who fight your crime FOR you... Fight crime for yourself... DON'T DO IT ...

sound advice! Good thing you're not a hypocrite, defending an illegal substance that provides 80-90% of the revenue for organized crime and gangs! I agree, don't commit crime, don't join gangs. But, as you have so kindly shown, there are always people willing to help criminals, and be criminals. that's why you'll always need cops.

dues ex..................those are excellent comments and points!! i agree 100%.

i got your six anytime!!!



angie

deus stop the nonsense you are from canada you paint them out to be saints.cops over here differ from the ones you got over there.they have such a bad attitude and they need to stop with that racial profiling crap.narcs stopped me the other day when we had that nice weather when you didnt even need a jacket.they are such liars cuz they make up any reason to stop you.i was walking down the street with my jacket off and then i put my jacket on.they claim that i stuffed something down my sleeve and i copped weed when all i did was put my jacket on.that proves if they were following me for awhile they woulda seen i did nothing wrong but cuz of racial profiling they assumed a white guy walking down the street across from the projects must be buying drugs(before any of you ask what am i doing near the projects,simple,i live around there its my neighborhood).

Yes...THIS WAS BEFORE THEY WERE COPS AND BEFORE THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION WAS COMPLETE....just dont get half the story and quote it as the truth...and by the way...charged doesnt equal guilty...

yea once a criminal always a criminal.they will always have that mentality and they get hired and become a cop with a criminal mentality.yea theres always gonna be bad eggs but its funny how the bad eggs strongly outnumber the good eggs when it comes to law enforcement.if i was a cop i would be the most crooked mofo out there,now how many peeps out there think like me?.i rest my case...

Originally posted by Drew Da General
deus stop the nonsense you are from canada you paint them out to be saints.cops over here differ from the ones you got over there.they have such a bad attitude and they need to stop with that racial profiling crap.narcs stopped me the other day when we had that nice weather when you didnt even need a jacket.they are such liars cuz they make up any reason to stop you.

Oh, bad attitude towards someone who has admitted to breaking the law? Surprise surprise. Oh, and for the record...they don't need a reason to stop you. They can ask you questions, that's not against the law.

i was walking down the street with my jacket off and then i put my jacket on.they claim that i stuffed something down my sleeve and i copped weed when all i did was put my jacket on.that proves if they were following me for awhile they woulda seen i did nothing wrong but cuz of racial profiling they assumed a white guy walking down the street across from the projects must be buying drugs(before any of you ask what am i doing near the projects,simple,i live around there its my neighborhood).

That's not racial profiling, it's jsut common sense. Gee, where do white kids from teh burbs go to get their drugs? Los projectos. Where do white boys from the projects go to get drugs? Around the corner. You admitted to doing drugs in other threads...

yea once a criminal always a criminal.they will always have that mentality and they get hired and become a cop with a criminal mentality.yea theres always gonna be bad eggs but its funny how the bad eggs strongly outnumber the good eggs when it comes to law enforcement.if i was a cop i would be the most crooked mofo out there,now how many peeps out there think like me?.i rest my case...

You'd be surprised hwo in-depth criminal checks go. I've said it once, I've said it again, 98% of cops are pure gold. You consider them 'bad eggs' because of a combination of the media, and the way you live. I live with them, and I'd trust them with my life without a second thought...

I was kind enough to bold exactly what you said. I think it speaks to your character wonderfully, and explains why you hate cops. Guess what? You wouldn't have made the cut. You gotta be gold like the badge to make it, and you've shown that you're simply something less.

DE

Police officers have, bar none, the toughest job in the world. They function continually under a microscope, and they are forced into a mentality of "us" against "them" with the "thems" being John Q. Citizens. They are targets everywhere they go, they have the unenviable task of having to do all of society's dirty work, and they have to do it with a smile on their face and "sir" and "ma'am" on their lips.

Why do you get a ticket for going 7 miles over the speed limit? Because if you didn't, you'd think it was okay to go 10, 15, or 30 miles over the limit, and then somebody gets killed. On a more pragmatic line, it's revenue for the city, state, or township - that's why you see cops patrolling certain streets where they KNOW people will speed.

A police officer is forced to react to the worst possible scenario - chances are that the guy going liberally with the tazer had somebody come after him even after he'd been cuffed at some point.

Some cops are on a power trip, and some cops cheat on their spouses. The same can be said of some teachers, lawyers, doctors, and managers at the local Wendy's. People are people.

I didn't even bother to read his post... nice to know the origin was banned, so i am not giving him free points to say

TROLL TROLL TROLL

it is insane to say that EVERY cop is crooked...
just all the ones except Blueknight!

seriously... as with any job... there are good and there are bad... they aren't supermen... they are just people who have a calling... some good callings and some bad...

Oh, bad attitude towards someone who has admitted to breaking the law? Surprise surprise. Oh, and for the record...they don't need a reason to stop you. They can ask you questions, that's not against the law.

well makin up bogus reasons to stop you and search you is.hmmm how do i know they are bogus reason well maybe cuz all of them use the same reason hmmm could it be coincidence?

That's not racial profiling, it's jsut common sense. Gee, where do white kids from teh burbs go to get their drugs? Los projectos. Where do white boys from the projects go to get drugs? Around the corner. You admitted to doing drugs in other threads...

thats exactly racial profiling.not only minorities live in projects and they know this.i admitted smoking weed not doing drugs you try to label me as some junkie.answer this how do they know i smoke or that i have been arrested for it before?.they dont cuz they dont call it in to check and they arent psychic.so how do they know?.you deal with mounties and canadian cops you dont know how grimey nyc cops act and you havent been in my shoes so you have no clue.you could be sittin on a park bench in the middle of the day in plain view and they will come harassing.

TextYou'd be surprised hwo in-depth criminal checks go. I've said it once, I've said it again, 98% of cops are pure gold. You consider them 'bad eggs' because of a combination of the media, and the way you live. I live with them, and I'd trust them with my life without a second thought...

the way i live what do you mean by that?are you implying that i am some type of criminal?i wasnt born with a silver spoon in my mouth so watch how you word things.

Originally posted by Drew Da General
well makin up bogus reasons to stop you and search you is.hmmm how do i know they are bogus reason well maybe cuz all of them use the same reason hmmm could it be coincidence?

Search prior to arrest. THEY DO NOT NEED A REASON TO STOP AND ASK TO SEARCH YOU. Ergo, no reason is really bogus. Unless you have something to hide, why do you want to resist?

thats exactly racial profiling.not only minorities live in projects and they know this.i admitted smoking weed not doing drugs you try to label me as some junkie.

Weed is a drug. Weed is illegal. Period. you smoke weed, you are 'doing' a drug.

answer this how do they know i smoke or that i have been arrested for it before?.they dont cuz they dont call it in to check and they arent psychic.so how do they know?.you deal with mounties and canadian cops you dont know how grimey nyc cops act and you havent been in my shoes so you have no clue.you could be sittin on a park bench in the middle of the day in plain view and they will come harassing.

Harassing? As in come by, and ask to see if you have anything illegal on you? Geez, that's happened to me. I simply let them search me, and we btoh went on our way. five minutes wouldn't kill me, why's it such a huge dramatic event for you?

the way i live what do you mean by that?are you implying that i am some type of criminal?i wasnt born with a silver spoon in my mouth so watch how you word things.

The way you live, as in teh choices YOU make as to the manner in which you live your life. You choose to do illegal things, so it's onyl natural that you think the cops are agaisnt you. It's their job to stop crime.

DE