All cops are crooked...seriously

most people when they go to court are aquitted or the charge is midigated to a lessor one...only for the fact that our prison system is beyond over-full...and our courts over-booked...not because the person was not guilty...

yeah, i have nerver damage from the second time, it aint right. like i said i was unarmed with a clean record (as far as they are concerned).

Originally posted by BasementAddix
most people when they go to court are aquitted or the charge is midigated to a lessor one...only for the fact that our prison system is beyond over-full...and our courts over-booked...not because the person was not guilty...

dude, dont be silly. both of the charges i mentiond have a maximum penalty of 5k+ in fines and 5 years probation. if i was guilty and the jail was full would they take my 5 grand and put me on probation? of course they would. i wasnt charged with all that coz i wasnt guilty of all that.

Originally posted by BasementAddix
most people when they go to court are aquitted or the charge is midigated to a lessor one...only for the fact that our prison system is beyond over-full...and our courts over-booked...not because the person was not guilty...

another good point yet when one has to be released for a petty crime and decides on their own to try something worse, then who do they blame not the courts but the cops that didnt catch the person in time to prevent it.




But I must go on to say there ARE some in jail that arent guilty but where put there by the DA and Judge and Jury not the PD

[edit on 22/2/2005 by drbryankkruta]

maybe where you live is diffenent...but in NY Penal law Probation is another type of sentence you can do instead of doing time...i.e....You Could do 5 years in jail...but if its your first arrest...maybe they'll just give you probation...as for cuffs and nerve damage...not matter high tight/loose the cuffs are...its gonna hurt...you sit wrong on them...its gonna hurt...obviously yes more damage can be done if theyre on too tight...but where you resisting?...if so...then maybe he didnt have a choice as to how tight/loose they were put on....when your struggling with someone...the last thing your thinking about is how tight are the cuffs...you just want them on the person...and in general...its not a good idea to loosen cuffs in the field...a prisoner could possibly escape if he got the oppurtunity...

Originally posted by BasementAddix
maybe where you live is diffenent...but in NY Penal law Probation is another type of sentence you can do instead of doing time...i.e....You Could do 5 years in jail...but if its your first arrest...maybe they'll just give you probation...as for cuffs and nerve damage...not matter high tight/loose the cuffs are...its gonna hurt...you sit wrong on them...its gonna hurt...obviously yes more damage can be done if theyre on too tight...but where you resisting?...if so...then maybe he didnt have a choice as to how tight/loose they were put on....when your struggling with someone...the last thing your thinking about is how tight are the cuffs...you just want them on the person...and in general...its not a good idea to loosen cuffs in the field...a prisoner could possibly escape if he got the oppurtunity...

this isnt unique to NYC , here where I am jail is discourage in non violent crimes to avoid over population as well , drug offenses are however being jailed more because of the growing , hilly billy drugs of choice that promote unsafe labs in nice neighborhoods and drugs abundant up and down I35 and I240 and I40 and I 235 four of the main arteries for drug movement in the US today.

i figured it wasnt unique...but im guessing some towns are different then others when it comes to sentencing...

Originally posted by BasementAddix
i figured it wasnt unique...but im guessing some towns are different then others when it comes to sentencing...

true that I cant remember how many times I walked out of court PO because a felony ADW walked with 7500.00 fine and 2 years probation and a burglary suspect got 3 years in time no parole till 1 year 2 months

but again thats the courts and DAs dont you think.

we arrested a guy last month (he was in his 50's)....and im not lying...he had in between 40-50 priors...i remember about 7 of them were burgs...with all of these priors he did 7 years total (5 on one charge...and 2 on another)...40-50 priors and still on the streets...oh...by the way....we locked him up for burglary...the system can be mind boggling...

Originally posted by BasementAddix
we arrested a guy last month (he was in his 50's)....and im not lying...he had in between 40-50 priors...i remember about 7 of them were burgs...with all of these priors he did 7 years total (5 on one charge...and 2 on another)...40-50 priors and still on the streets...oh...by the way....we locked him up for burglary...the system can be mind boggling...

thats so much like what I was seeing petty one or two times given the shaft and greater offenders left to walk , but its not the fault of enforce but judiciary if it was up to enforcement I think they all would be on an island somewheres till they served their time.

Originally posted by jprophet420
obviously you have never been busted.
they give you a receipt for everything they take. they gave me a receipt for my schwagg, not my KB. 2.5 ounces of high grade marijuana is missing from my court case on paper.

Yeah, that's true. Or rather, I have been arrested and retrained, tehn searched...but they didn't find anything on me. I'm pretty sure if they keep you in detention, they give that to you on release. And, of course, it's not like the quartermasters could have made a clerical error (though it would be quite funny to have someone else stuck with your 2.5 ounces, especially someone in on an assault charge)

yes, the cop could just take me to a remote location and dump me. however, since i was in a cop car, and known not to be armed, there is no possible way they could get away with it. if i RAN howevr, it would be another story.

Sure they could've. Drive some place quiet and out of the way, make it look like they're doing the rounds, hual you out, cap you, leave you for the crows. If you ran upon being released after your arraignment, it would just be embarassing.

i was aquitted of all but one charge, i stated this already. the one charge was 'conspiracy' and was sealed. the police did not run my name before they cuffed me.

Kinda hard to run someone without ID, isn't it? And kinda stupid to leave a felon without cuffs on? I'm sure once they got your wallet, they ran you while you were being frisked. Hell, if I was in the same situation, I'd feel that my gut led me right.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

you just judged the hell out of me there buddy, the thin blue line grows wider...

That's not judgement, that's informing. You've admitted to your crimes, and like many, show a shocking lack of knowledge of police proceedure.

look asshole, police procedure does not ever involve stealing marijuana.
it also does not involve openeing the door and ordering me to run.

no matter how wrong i was they were completely out of line and the ones that stole the weed are totally corrupt. thats the topic of the thread, i posted exactly what happened, if you dont like it my guess is its coz youre a cop and defending your kind.

Originally posted by jprophet420
look asshole, police procedure does not ever involve stealing marijuana.
it also does not involve openeing the door and ordering me to run.

While I am finding frustration with the lack of people that just dont understand I would say that the language here goes a bit far and could catch the attention of a mod, we dont promote views effectively by cursing and insulting. It would also stand to advance the goals of those who stereo type cops as all the same , I would respectfully submit that an appology for the a word thing would better serve us all.

Look every one , there are bad elements in every part of life if not there would be no need for checks and balances and laws, and sin would not exist. but the simple fact is dont generalize a whole group in the entitlements of a minority that for the greater part is less than 1% of all involved nation wide. I will go you one better , look at it this way there are crooks out there who have ethics and those who dont , and by the lack of etics some kill to steal , now does that make all thiefs murderers , if so then why are there two seperate laws one for theft and one for murder, I will tell you why not because murder is murder and theft is only sometimes murder, not all the time, you know most theft in the US now is done with out a gun but by the use of a home pc or a peice of paper and a camera , people have come to the understanding that violence isnt the best way to do things and even 9/11 could have been achieved with out the loss of life but the persons involved didnt think so , now I think terrorism comes in many forms , only one is death but is that to say that if noone dies that terrorism doesnt exist? A couple of days ago we had the most mild version of terrorism here on ATS where in a former member was trying to hijack your computer with a .exe file that member spread about 42 posts and threads in less than an hour and was banned for spamming , when in fact it should have been seen for what it was an act of terrorism by hijacking and nuisance.......but that person didnt kill a single person.






[edit on 22/2/2005 by drbryankkruta]

Originally posted by jprophet420
look asshole, police procedure does not ever involve stealing marijuana.

Friendly words...police procedure doesn't involve stealing weed, just like common sense doesn't ever involve knocking over a gun store.

it also does not involve openeing the door and ordering me to run.

That part of your story is the part I find most sketchy. The police wanting to cap you after an arraignment hearing makes absolutely no sense. See, maybe if you treated them with respect, they'd be a little nicer. That, and oh, don't break the law.

no matter how wrong i was they were completely out of line and the ones that stole the weed are totally corrupt.

If they stole your weed -which I doubt, since cops are drug tested very regularly- then yeah, you're right. they were corrupt. Oddball here and there is. But, however, your story has so very many holes in it I can't begin to believe anything but you're sore about being arrested.

thats the topic of the thread, i posted exactly what happened, if you dont like it my guess is its coz youre a cop and defending your kind.

I guess your story seems so unbelievable because your a felon, then, and defending YOUR kind. ASide from the vast amount of gaps and inexplicable behavior in your story, you are fairly reeking of bias. The facts simply don't seem to matter to you.

DE

Any war won with violence and deceit , is a war lost, for any man whom chooses violence and deciet to impose rule of law, or political agenda.... Ours is the mission of man being humbeled in the sight of great wonders and great attrocities abounding , dont add to them with your own contributions of blame and hatred.

By Dr. Bryan K. Kruta
September 8th 2001



Note how ironicly true this all rang when 3 days later the world began to be turned upside down.

most people who dont like cops have been arrested before....that about sums it up...

Originally posted by drbryankkruta

Originally posted by jprophet420
look asshole....

While I am finding frustration with the lack of people that just dont understand I would say that the language here goes a bit far and could catch the attention of a mod....

...bingo...Warn given...

Keep the abuse out of it people.

A lot of cops are a-holes but if I was a cop I think Id be the coolest one on Earth!

I might be getting a little Freudian here but I think that the people who hate all cops do so because they are cowards. (I’m not flaming – this is my honest theory). No matter how tough males verbally pump themselves up to be the reality is often that the average guy is a coward, but that is only exposed when confronted by a difficult situation. No matter how evolved human beings pretend to be the fragile male ego is controlled by masculinity. When the masculinity of a male is bruised a lot of hate emerges as a defense.

One of the main jobs of a police officer is to hold a presence of authority so that they can be in full control the situation at hand. When a police officer is confronted with a person who is committing or suspected of committing a crime the officer will use training, authority and intimidating on the suspect to get them to “crack.” A suspect cracks and spills his guts when the level of fear has crossed a breaking point. It is the duty of the police officer to essentially break the willpower of the suspect, and in doing so the officer also crushes the masculinity of the suspect. That type of damage is very psychologically scarring. The emotional injured person then lashes out in the only way possible by hating all police officers because they identify the uniform as the source of their fears. We always hate what we fear.

So, in my opinion, when a person says I hate all police officers or all police officers are bad (which are obviously ludicrous statements) what they are really saying is that a police officer made me feel like a coward and damaged my psyche.