Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

After some surprising new insights from a fellow member I'm now wondering if there are aren't two parties involved in the RFI but three.

That one party might be intertwined within the other two.

That party might derivative to some degree. To phrase it one way, it might be 'based on the work of'. If that's true, it could help explain how one 'mystery' has been forced into the RFI narrative despite having no natural place.

This third party likely has nothing to do with the original event!

a reply to: ctj83

What surprising new insights? Are there more!

Interesting comments Ctj83.

a reply to: ctj83

Are we saying that possibly the RFI has its own 'true' narrative. Whatever that might actually be.

But that three 'parties' are competing to introduce their own 'false' narratives into the story for whatever secret reasons they may have?

Very puzzling.

a reply to: mirageman

Very puzzling.

Indeed, but it might well be true! But, why false?

a reply to: mirageman

I'm very curious what my young padawn will come up with..

but without interfering with his creative process, surely you
know that perceived history is actually quite fluid and various
people are attempting to be the victors and to rewrite it.

I know that you have wondered why Jim Penniston keeps
changing his story?

Now the lazy explanation is that he's infested by the phenomenon
and that it's screwed with his head.

that's true enough.

But it's not a sufficient answer.

There are multi-factions manipulating his brain for their own purposes.

The simplest faction to see is represented as "G" or "O" depending on
how you want to do it.

Then one wonders which faction is manipulating "G" / "O".

and it recurses, sometimes up to a dozen levels or more.

I don't know if this response was helpful to you.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear



Oh! Vienna.

a reply to: mirageman

I know.

You've had the misfortune to think that you were making
progress on something that really mattered to you,
when wave after wave of crazy stuff keeps hitting you.

If you want to stay in "UFOlogy" (which has no UFOs)
you'll need to toughen up.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

For millions of years mankind lived just like the animals Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination We learned to talk.....

Keep Talking - Pink Floyd (The Division Bell)

But thats when it all went wrong isn't it?

a reply to: mirageman

That might well be it. There may be more.

Money being the goal for some. Perhaps preventing the original event for others?

On another note.Let me throw out a crazy theory.

What if it was discovered that Richard Doty was correct about just one thing he’s said?That there are two paid off ufologists who survived the exposure of Bill Moore as the third.

Remember Bill Moore said there were others.

What if they had played some role in the RFI?

Maybe it’s crazy, but what if they had the ability to control some of what we see, read and hear about the RFI?

a reply to: mirageman

Correct.

Speech divides us and turns us against each other.

Speech casts shadows, which confuses everything.

I didn't speak until I was 5, as I didn't approve of the
shortcomings of speech.

As a matter of fact, it was after I started to rely on
speech, that everything beautiful about my life
started to fade away.

I'm 56 and I'm only now starting to feel like myself
again.. I can use speech as a tool... "logic" as a tool
without it corrupting me.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

But does not speech also have the power to bind us together? To move? To bring others to our aid?

Humanity is certainly a thorny bush, but it brings forth the occasional beautiful flower as well.

Cheers,
BT

a reply to: beetee

Human speech, even when beautiful, is a control collar.

Humans would need to evolve further to turn speech into
a truly exemplary tool.

Speech gave us the power to turn our dreams into nightmares.

But took our INNATE dreams away.

All the stuff that I talk about... all the stuff that the "Phenomenon"
is doing.. is about trying to have our cake and to eat it too.. and
we all are currently failing.

Kev

I will add a note here:

The very first thing that "Kundalini" does when "awakened' is to
restructure the verbal centers of the brain. It's a very famous
and indisputable thing. Most people get hypergraphia at first..
I certainly did.

If you want to think of "Kundalini" as something "divine" or even
just "higher", this should be a real clue that our speech centers
as they currently exist, are betraying us.

a reply to: mirageman

Close. My take is that it isn't actually speech, but our ability to predict (you can call it imagination). Life evolved from/is a struggle to survive, and this ability is quite useful. Anticipating something is dangerous stops you from doing it (or at least serves as a warning). It's our 'quantum spin generator', though that's just me having fun with wording.

Now these 'systems' could trigger another part of our genetic heritage, fight or flight reactions. While their purpose is to act while in danger, for instance when encountering a lion, these days they get triggered by the slow Peugeot in front of you in traffic causing you to go mad cause you think you might be late. Different lion, same reaction.

Since life has changed dramatically over the latest centuries, but we humans are still wired for life back when we where cavemen, we got a 'problem'. Our predictive mind just spews (or copies them from others) irrational thoughts, takes them for reality and makes us 'tilt'.

Now to go full circle, language is an incomplete way of communication. It leaves room for interpretation and again that same part of our (imaginative) nature seems to struggle with it causing stress with new variations on fight/flight as a result.

Now things are a bit more complex than that as this is just a simple explanation. Besides, you also got (individual) reasons for motivation (influencing interpretation) thrown in the mix as well. But imo it's a good starting point (it's mine anyway). We can come up with many more layers (as there probably are) and ways to (ab)use, but which one is fact and which make us tilt? That's another rabbit hole.

Did anyone notice Col.Halt has been meeting up with a new witness. From what I have read that information will be presented at the conference in September.
And then of course there is Halt book 2 to come.

Hola guys, don't know if this bit of classic British TV has been posted on the thread but Jenny Randles does state the NSA were carrying out an 'Over The Horizon' radar test and also mentions a decaying Russian nuclear satellite on the same evening.

See 3:05

a reply to: karl 12

An over the horizon radar test might qualify
in the same was as a 'weapons test' for the paradigm
I feel was involved at RFI.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Interestingly Cobra Mist, which was exactly that, OTH radar system that cost well over a billion to develop and construct was deemed a failure and shuttered in the mid 70s, was only a few hundred miles from Rendlesham. Granted by the time of RFI it was long closed "apparently" but the reasons for its failure was due to excess noise and it detected nothing but missile launches constantly. There was talk of foul play and someone launching countermeasures to null it's effectiveness.

Reason I mention it kev, is its timing and close proximity to Rendlesham. It's worth digging into..

a reply to: pigsy2400

Anything that would stir up BOL activity, "dumb"
or "sentient" needs to be examined.

As you have read in other threads now, there are people,
very respected people, who are talking about human-
generated BOL that are fully controlled.

I will withhold comment on that subject.

But obviously, anything which might empower or irritate
a BOL, whether "ours" (if that's true) or "theirs" is at
the very heart of RFI,

that is, if you believe that BOL's of some sort were
involved.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I agree, anything that uses the local atmosphere in OTH (ionosphere) could produce BOL particularly in an area that are susceptible to them anyway. I don't know the physics of this, I'm no physicist lol.

Cobra Mist was on the coast not 20miles away from the forest and was a joint Anglo american radar installation and oddly enough not far at all from lighthouse that is at the heart of the story in some respects.

Perhaps naturally occurring or otherwise BOL is what interfered with the OTH installation in that area. CM was deemed a failure and picked up returns on aircraft that were not there.

Hmmmm.......

a reply to: pigsy2400

We have 'project palladium' and so do "they".

Kev