Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

a reply to: Baablacksheep

I wasn't aware of a new movie. I did know about the Sony TV series and another production though.

a reply to: ctj83

Is that not the same thing Ct. John mentions Sony?.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

It might well be, I'm not sure though.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

I would hazard a guess that if Sony were involved with a TV production, as announced back in November 2017, then maybe they have decided to run with a one-off movie instead. Or possibly a movie which could then lead to the TV series?

Having a stand alone movie, and separate tv series would not seem to make commercial sense. However as nothing seems 'official' at the moment then I they might just be considering options.

A series of real-life reported UFO sightings in Britain near an air base used by the U.S. Air Force will be the basis of a new drama series, “Rendlesham.” London-based producer Eleventh Hour Film will make the series and Sony’s international TV production arm has come on board. The studio is backing the development of the project and will handle international distribution. There is not yet a broadcaster or platform attached.

See : variety.com...

Playing out against the backdrop of the Cold War, the series will utilize a dual timeline structure: one set during the initial 1980 sighting; and the other in 2020, during the 40th anniversary of the incident. The focus of the story will be a local family; and how both the incident and the ramifications from it impacted them on perfect levels for decades.

See : www.bleedingcool.com...

a reply to: mirageman

Ok. So basically John is regurgitating what we kind of know already.

a reply to: ctj83

They are jealous about the Aviary.

But hey C...we can also start the bear club.

You could be Yogi...mm could be Boo Boo..
Maybe im Gentle Ben. Well mm would insist on being Yogi...the joker..

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Only lies become popular in this world.

Humans are not the wise of the wise (sapiens sapiens).

They are the liars of the liars. I need to lookup the latin on that.

Our species is misclassified in the tree of life.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

You are forgetting two other bears of note:
Teddy Ruxpin
Winnie The Pooh

originally posted by: ctj83
a reply to: KilgoreTrout

I love what I've read of Vonnegut, but I'm not widely read and didn't know that!

Re Forsyth, I think you are right. I'm not sure what you mean about Bloodhounds? Could you explain, please?

Bloodhound missiles were sited there, from 1979, I think, but more generally I meant that Bawdsey was more strategically important and that the secret services, all sides, would have been well aware of that, as would Forsyth as an insider, which is why he probably pointed towards that general area but not too specifically. Inside joke? That said, I have only read Forsyth's first four novels, I haven't read Fourth Protocol...so I'm just assuming really.

originally posted by: ctj83
In terms of the other things, I'll recap if that's helpful as my posts on it are spread out. Also, apologies as it's an obscure reference I guess, unless this information is useful to someone else, I think it's a dead end in my research.

It comes back to Nick Cook's book 'The Hunt For Zero Point' - he was a the senior aerospace editor at Jane's Defence, tracking down the F19 (117a) before it was unveiled. In the 1990s - whilst on the track of Aurora, he met with a mysterious whistleblower, scientist and alledged BAE engineer at RAF Bawdsey.

Dr David Marckus is claimed to be an alias of a scientist who worked at Bawdsey and a local University, who was a whistleblower for Nick Cook's book on Anti Gravity ' The Hunt For Zero Point. I initially thought that Dr Marckus was the author of Condign, as he talks of many of the same things. I did consider he might be fictional until recently. You can also find Dr Marckus in the writings of UK Environmentalist, Middle East Specialist and former Guardian Newspaper journalist Nafeez Ahmed.

He is also likely known to Graham Ennis, a popular UK Ufologist who organised events on Anti Gravity that Marcus likely attended in the early 2000s and a contact of Cooks (according to acknowledgements in 'Hunt For Zero Point').

Apart from those three people, you can't find out anything about him.

However, after David Clarke's revelations about the Condign author it is clear that Dr David Marckus is not the Condign author. I'm also not sure that Nafeez' Dr Marckus is the same as Nick Cook's Marckus although on his blog and in his books he seems to believe so.

Okay, I getchya. Odd for Nafeez to use the same (fake?) name though isn't it? I've read a couple of his articles on the Guardian site. Intelligent bloke. I would guess that he has either been fed the name, has deliberately chosen it, or it's the same person...some coincidences are too conincidental. Interesting, thanks.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Thanks for that

I might as well update you on that. He claims that his Dr Marckus is the exact same Dr Marckus that was a whistleblower for Nick Cook.

He begins posting anonymous packets of clippings from 50s /60s aerospace articles on impending antigravity technologies.


Cook's Dr Markus is a friend of Hal Puthoff.

This guy used to live in Bawdsey, worked on anti-gravity, plasma and zero point technology. Cook meets him at Anti Gravity conferences whilst at Janes. he works with Dr Ron Evans and Professor Brian Young of Salford. These guys work at Watton.

You can see Dr Ron Evans talk about anti-gravity in BBC Horizon: Greenglow.

Nafeez' Dr Marckus has the same out there tech interests and Nazi UFO theories but also is concerned with environmental degradation. A third person, mentioned by Cook, who might know who Dr Marckus is Graham Ennis -as I mentioned a former ufologist and organiser of anti-gravity conferences. What i forgot to mention is that many of his UFOlogy articles were about environmental decay so I think he likely got fed the same sort of information as Nafeez did from Dr Marckus.

Here is the documentary that came from Nick's book and investigation. No mention of Dr Markcus. Dr Marckus is the one who introduces Cook to the idea of the Nazi Bell.



This is the documentary about Dr Ron Evans, who according to Cook's writings must have been part of the same group of UK scientists and likely knew or worked with Dr Markcus (as they were speaking at the same events)





Below you can find out about Nafeez distopian Sci Fi Novel, "Zero Point", and one of the characters, Dr David Marckus who is based on Nafeez' real life friend Dr David Marckus.
Ahmeds' Zero Point Novel

a reply to: ctj83

Right. I'm seeing why, or perhaps I am, you are making the connection to Fourth Protocol (book not film)...I'm smelling Black Propaganda, the Nazi UFO stuff is demonstrable crap, attempting to control the environmental discussion is a long standing agenda of the security forces, Cook seems to be tied into that. Is Nafeez a feckless pawn or a willing tool? I'm not sure if the intentions are necessarily negative, it's deeply dishonest however, all of it. And the antithesis of progress.

ETA: You've added loads of stuff while I was background reading...okay...I'm out of time nearly, I'll get started but will have to get back to you. Probably not today.

Cheers

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

It seems you've picked out a part I hadn't mentioned

Cook used to run a company to bring Aerospace tech to bear on environmental issues. I don't see anything negative on Nafeez's part, he knows the guy apparently, and wrote a novel about him. Likewise with Cook seems to have been taken in as well.

I consider both genuine and honest journalists, I just think, as you say, the UFO Nazi stuff is utter crap...

a reply to: ctj83

The original "cheese pizza" has been debunked on ATS..

a reply to: ctj83

Thanks for the links to Nick Cooks YT channel CTJ, I do really like Nick Cook and its a shame he didn't continue with his VLOGS as he is an interesting guy and approaches things in an interesting way.

a reply to: pigsy2400
You’re welcome!

I’d like for him to do an AMA here! He brings both technical understanding, investigative journalism and an understanding of the SAP world.

He’s a good presenter as well.

I’ll be the first to say that Cook should do a serious investigation into the RFI!

a reply to: ctj83

i have not watched the video's yet(thank you for tonight's viewing) but as far as the bell goes...

as much as i would love to think my ancestors came up with some magical true anti gravitics, i dont. if the stories are even kind of true i think they may have been witnessing strange electrical phenomena something like T. townsend brown effects with the bell that would act and look like anti gravity but in a scientific way was not.


i believe until very recently we(humans) have not had a way to fly a craft with a 'safe' high energy density output source, that might explain some of the black triangles tricks and the orange plasma things.

a reply to: penroc3

might

Usable fusion is probably 20 years away still. It's always 20 years away.

Other energy sources currently under development, except for
use in small drones, are probably "20 years out" too. Really we are
talking energy storage technologies more than "generation".

But the disinfo always showcases high energy output in a small form
factor, even though we don't have it.

Of course if you went to the aircraft forum, you'd hear wild stories..
just like you'd hear in the hardcore ufo and spiritual forums.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

a belief system is a belief system.

im more at home in the aircraft area.


its hard to reconcile seeing amazing and frankly ALMOST unbelievable things with your own eyes and then the AF or LM. boeing etc saying they are multi decades away from compact energy sources.

the smaller triangle i saw im almost 100% sure had a made in the USA sticker on it somewhere, as it was in town during a presidential debate and looked human made. it made me a believer in human made UFO's for lack of a better term.

how ever it moved, it wasn't jet turbines or any other conventional method i can think of.


there is a strange element out there that isnt human but i think a lot of times people dont give us humans enough credit

a reply to: penroc3

The one I saw had rivets that didn't change in size, from when I saw it
overhead, until the time it flew out of sight over the horizon or so.

It talked.

It shape changed.

It downloaded binary data into me (all lies mind you)

and other things.

So Lockheed is hella talented.

But you are right.

Humans have designed the most amazing killing devices. They
will create even more efficient killing devices before the end.

And make some great anime. There's that anyway.

Kev

PS:

That "made in the usa sticker" that's a hella cute one.

Very creative.

Was that "sticker" 100 feet across so that you could see it?

Did it change in size no matter how close or far away
the "craft" was?

I'm not teasing.. I'm asking..

that is HELLA funny.

Next time one might have posted on it "I'm not an energy creature like KPB says i am".

Oh that's a chortle.

You should definitely believe ownership stickers on passing UFOs.

(sorry.. that last line was teasing... but I couldn't help it)

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


the small one i saw was roughly the size of a F-18 maybe a bit smaller. it had a very manufactured look to it like the B-2 is smooth to the touch but you can see where parts come together in some areas.

i was less than 20 yards away at most and it was no more than 15 feet in the sky. it was stuck to the air and rotated around its central axis.

and the light that came from the tips did not emit light like a light bulb(a point source) but rather it looked like the corner was glowing itself and had the most amazing blue color to it that reminded me of cherenkov radiation it even had the halo effect.

but the most amazing thing i saw it do was when it decided that it was time to leave the area it went straight up in the air and rotated so that the flat end was the 'front' and if i had blinked i would have said it disappeared. and of course it made no sound during the entire sighting(that lasted maybe 30 seconds)

some of the other things i have seen i would have to say that they belong to something else that is not human or anything that we have catalogued in the mainstream.

if anything after i had read the astr0 story it seemed to fit his description and the photo he posted.


now the BBT that have in my experience have many of the abilities that you said. but the little guy was sure convincing that it belonged to us.


but then again if something can shapeshift then who knows?


i would love to know what is really going on with the plasma 'ships' they, to me, are wayyyyy more interesting. if you have ever seen one(i think you have) then you know that they are amazing and not ball lightning or something so prosaic. i have seen a blue plasma ball and an orange one a few times both colors were about the same size but the blue ones gave me a very very very bad feeling and everything in my body was telling me to GTFO of the area and don t look back.


i think if we figure out what is generating these balls of plasma we might get some answers about the triangles.