Bill Nye Boo'd In Texas For Saying The Moon Reflects The Sun

reply to post by NewAgeMan


I remember your thread and I also remember what you were told. The alignments are close but still far enough off to disprove. Hundreds of miles or more. Yes it looks neat but proves nothing except it looks neat.

Octagons are cool as well I bet we can find a lot of things that sort of kind of line up with them as well. So what?

ShayneJUK

.. ignorant of the true nature if the universe

Hope that helps..

Although you may wish to investigate the true frame of reference, if you have the capacity, although it's often rather lacking in the atheist mindset and worldview which would rather deny what's in their face than face, head on, a truth and a reality that is so astonishing and unexpected they would never have even begun to consider it in a million years and even if presented with it directly, would write it off as of no consequence and render if, if they could, as utterly meaningless and insignificant ie: nothing to see here move along..

reply to post by Grimpachi


For starters it's a unique relationship and configuration that is entirely unique in our solar system, but that's just one piece of the puzzle proving intelligent design by an unknown creative agency.

Try reading this book, even though the speculative conclusion that they draw isn't credible (it takes the "grandfather paradox" to new heights). It will cook your noodle.


www.amazon.ca...

Don't assume, keep an open mind, and remember that denial isn't a river in Egypt..

reply to post by NewAgeMan

Astronomers reported that there could be as many as 40 billion habitable Earth-size planets in the galaxy, based on a new analysis of data fromNASA’s Kepler spacecraft.

The idea that some sheephearders in the desert had a direct connection with a all knowing creator of the universe who were also told a bunch of scientifically imposible and universal inaccuracies is the epitome of ignorant blatherings.
Read all about it

reply to post by Grimpachi


If you do the research, you will discover as I have that "habitable" (Goldilocks Zone) earth-size does not mean earth-LIKE.

I used to like doing those calcs to try to figure out how many earth-like worlds there may be in our galaxy, but then I did the research as to what makes life on earth what it is, with people walking around and animals running and flying around etc. and I was forced to take pause in my imaginative conjecture.

However, you are still assuming and speculating and are not putting forward a scientifically reasoned argument based on observable phenomenon, but of course you cannot see that.

As to what took place in the OT and how that entire prophetic framework managed to foreshadow what happened in the NT again, that's another argument.

Chalking it all up as one big "fairy tale" however most certainly isn't denying ignorance.

Something happened.

Also, in your atheist ignorance you fail to recognize that the Bible contains an embedded "code" or allegory of sorts, which is designed to preserve in it's various literary forms and styles the wisdom of the ages, and if you had your way, we would BURN IT in a big fire after which it would not longer be accessible.


Best Regards,

NAM

reply to post by olaru12


LOL!

The funniest part is that Bill Nye is actually WRONG and, while the riled Texans aren't quite sure why he is, I can explain.

The Moon emits plenty of light from its surface! In fact, recent research has found that the Moon is actually one of the greatest producers of gamma rays! High energy LIGHT.

Moon Poses Radiation Risk to Future Travelers

Even if you were to consider these gamma rays simply reflections of cosmic rays, thus originating from outside stars and supernovae, you would still find infrared frequencies, light!

While you may not see it due to our very limited spectral vision, the Moon is in fact emitting light, all matter does, as it emits and absorbs photons, light!

reply to post by VeritasAequitas


And something redeeming in this thread. If Maynard and Bill Nye had a baby, I would hang out with that baby...under the reflected moonlight.

Reflecting Moon


If we take this reflection principal I've outlined, and apply it to the Great Work of the Ages of Jesus Christ, what we are presented with in effect amounts to the absolute simplicity of God's love at the very furthest end/edge of complexity even within the context and framing of the whole of cosmic evolutionary history. And it took place just a little less than 2000 years ago..!

You can call it solipsistic if you like, but if this kind of thing is possible and made manifest, which it was/is, well then who knows what other tricks God might have up his rather longgg sleeve, and it's actually irrelevant in the face of the truth as it has been presented to and through the human being to us, right here on Earth of all places.

And who knows, maybe the saying "the last shall be first and the first, last" might have a larger, cosmological frame of reference..? If so, then it's not unlike a great joke told by God via the human being whereby the last laugh might be still on the move as it relates to powers and principalities both here on Earth, and in the Heavens above (ie: if they were jealous..), which reminds me of the parable of the Good Samaritan in particular the role of the elder brother.. and, of the parable of the Lost Sheep.. read it and weep, LOL.

Context and framing is everything. What the atheist lacks is the Big Picture and the imagination by which to begin to fathom his true place in the grand scheme of things beyond that of a mere animal or "thing" or a teeny tiny dot, of no significance whatsoever within a meaningless and impartial, uncaring universe devoid of meaning and purpose.

It's beyond amuzing, for those who will.. or who can.


Best Regards,

NAM

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Well first of all, I would not call you an idiot for exercising your own free will to believe what you choose to believe. Yes some religious people do act ignorant, but there are good and bad things concerning religion. I never have been one to bash religion unless someone is trying to lecture me.

I have no problem whatsoever with the ten commandments posted anywhere, nor does in god we trust irk me even one bit, in fact I like it because it's a part of our Nations history. So please don't think I am some anti-religion guy, cause I grew up as a Christian who attended Church regularly, and I know you mean well.

With that being said, I don't believe you understand my avatar. However, that is an entire different discussion. I will touch on your triangle definition alone though.

There is nothing Godly about the triangle, not in any Biblical sense. The triangle is about power, it's also about the chain of command, but most of all it is connected to The Universe and all organized order within it. It's a lot of other things as well, but again I don't want to sway from the topic of the thread too much here.

I never said that I did not believe in God, or Gods. I never said that I did not believe in a supreme being, or creator of some sort. Since you're asking me now though, I will inform you that I believe in only one God, and that God is The Universe. The only Son of God that I recognize is one of many Sons on God, The Sun. Which equals = The Universe is God. ~$heopleNation

reply to post by olaru12


This is funny and sad at the same time........booing a man for saying the moon reflects the sun!?!?!

NewAgeMan

Hope that helps..

Although you may wish to investigate the true frame of reference, if you have the capacity, although it's often rather lacking in the atheist mindset and worldview which would rather deny what's in their face than face, head on, a truth and a reality that is so astonishing and unexpected they would never have even begun to consider it in a million years and even if presented with it directly, would write it off as of no consequence and render if, if they could, as utterly meaningless and insignificant ie: nothing to see here move along..

"A truth and a reality that is so astonishing and unexpected"

NAM, Your hypothesis can be applied to either position here, can't you see that my friend? The absolute arrogance that you show only proves your willingness to ignore what is right in front of your own face, or to be more precise, right above your head every single night of your existence (give or take the weather conditions) on planet Earth.

You actually used an image that proves our point that the hysterical theories of a bunch of desert dwelling bums in dirty nightshirts who lived over 2000 years ago was in error, and were absolutely nothing more than a fairy tale that was thought up in order to control the masses of those days, as well as New Age Men of this day who allow some false god and idols, The Church, to direct and speak for them. The hypocrisy has no end. ~$heopleNation

reply to post by olaru12


I dont know.

I am FAR from being a religious hardliner, but bill nye is not qualified to represent "science". He is an engineer who got his education in the 70s....so he is not even a decent authority on engineering either.

We all know that the moon does in fact reflect light from the sun...DUH...

But I would have booed him too.....he is an entertainer. Listening to him is like listening to Brad Pitt or Mr bean read a script that someone else prepared for them on climate change or "science"......


"Booooo"...ya fraud.

Yea , But then.
What is the Sun reflecting off of?
Da! , didn't think of that one did ya?
If we don't kill enough perfect Virgins the Sun will not cum, rise, in the morning
Don't mock the God's.

Hey? If you were traveling at the speed of light away from the Earth, upon looking back towards the Earth, would it appear as if time had stopped on Earth.

And would the Moon still shine or would the light be stuck in place?

reply to post by olaru12


Here is the Article from the Waco Tribune and a link explaining why a 403 forbidden is received while trying to access the article. Click here if you're not too busy hating

The Science Guy is entertaining and provocative at MCC lecture



Author: Tim Woods Tribune-Herald staff writer

Editor’s Note: This story originally appeared in the Waco Tribune-Herald on April 6, 2006

Audience members who expected to see Bill Nye “The Science Guy” conduct experiments and wow their children received quite a surprise Wednesday when Nye spoke at McLennan Community College./CONTINUES AFTER THE JUMP

Nye instead addressed such topics as Mars exploration, global warming and energy consumption, particularly oil and gas. He even ruffled a few religious feathers along the way.

The scientist with a background in stand-up and sketch comedy kept spectators interested, entertained and at ease with his funny, sometimes hilarious, delivery.

Speaking as part of MCC’s Distinguished Lecturer Series, Nye spoke to two audiences, one at 1:30 p.m. and the second at 7 p.m., of about 600 each. He said the first audience, though littered with young children listening to some rather adult scientific topics, “was very supportive.”

The second group also was rapt from the beginning, greeting the scientist with a raucous standing ovation upon his introduction.

“You haven’t heard the presentation yet!” Nye told them.

Opening with a discussion of Mars and his hopes for further discovery on the neighboring planet, Nye encouraged the audience to tak interest in discovery and “change the world,” a mantra he repeated throughout.

Nye indicated that the presence of water in Mars’ atmosphere – evidenced by the planet’s ability to form frost – leads him to believe that there is a strong possibility that the planet once supported life.

The Emmy-winning scientist angered a few audience members when he criticized literal interpretation of the biblical verse Genesis 1:16, which reads: “God made two great lights – the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.”

He pointed out that the sun, the “greater light,” is but one of countless stars and that the “lesser light” is the moon, which really is not a light at all, rather a reflector of light.

A number of audience members left the room at that point, visibly angered by what some perceived as irreverence.

“We believe in a God!” exclaimed one woman as she left the room with three young children.

Nye also was critical of what he said was governmental agencies’ lack of action, even lack of understanding, in protecting the Earth from global warming and wasted resources.

Nye’s educational science show won 28 Emmy awards during its television run from 1992-98.

It seemed most in attendance were pleased to hear Nye speak, and some were even awed by the presence of a childhood icon.

“How cool is that, to be face to face with the man, Bill Nye?” said Jared McClure, who worked sound and video for the event. “And he’s funny, too.”

It seems to me the event was well received by most in attendance.

I find it interesting that such smart people here on ATS could be guilty of an obvious small sample type fallacy and hand out a blanket determination that an entire state is stoopid. I sure am glad there are smart people here to point out the dumb ones...

reply to post by olaru12


It's not like this in all parts of Texas. The namely the large cities. Though I did one hear a grown adult refer to some one else as stupid because they said the sun was a star.

Well if that is the case, they must panic and freak-the-hell-out during an eclipse.

Seriously, how do they explain an eclipse?

reply to post by SheopleNation


You assume.

Someone "got it", someone understood and comprehended what I've presented.

I realize that the notion of an evolutionary Christianity and a cosmic Christ is a little hard to fathom for some people especially if they've got a strong bias against it, but for the scientifically minded and the curious who might be acquainted with this type of inquiry, it's not so far fetched especially when there is data to support it.

Most will simply proceed to continue to parrot the exact same thing they did before encountering the information as if it was never presented, but I have faith in the curious reader who is interested in learning new things and looking at it all in new ways. For them it might be utterly astounding and breathtaking as I've discovered it to be.

I'm not really offering the info and speaking to, the "brick wall" member or reader anyway.

I am sorry though that I somehow failed in my communication to you that you missed it what was being presented, that you didn't get it, but again as I said not everyone can be expected to take it in and recognize it for what it is and signifies.

For me, and everyone, or anyone in particular, it's the kind of thing that when you find it and make the discovery and the connection, comes to you by surprise and not by expectation because the information, prior to comprehension, resided in the domain of an unknown unknown or what you didn't even know you didn't know, so it isn't an easy thing to take in, no matter how in your face or plain as day it may be, and for the record, total number of stars doesn't diminish it in the least, but only magnifies it's splendor and magnificence.

It's breathtaking.


To clarify and illustrate this "blindness" note that you said this

SheopleNation

Since you're asking me now though, I will inform you that I believe in only one God, and that God is The Universe. The only Son of God that I recognize is one of many Sons on God, The Sun. Which equals = The Universe is God. ~$heopleNation

After the info I presented on page 8 as if that information has never been presented, received or understood and recognized for what it reveals and communicates or signifies. And it's not my "belief" but my understanding based on available data. In other words, there is in your face evidence of superintelligent design right here in our own earth-moon-sun system which by it's very nature is also framed, cosmologically, including this galaxy and every other because the whole thing is part of one interdependent and interpenetrating cosmological unity, which is perhaps where your universe-as-God might factor in, but, as we can see, it was done by anticipation from an original intent and thus the design precedes the thing itself which was created ie: God created the universe.

It's logical and elementary reasoning, and there's someone who "gets it", someone who's interested and curious about how the earth-moon-sun system can be reduced in their geometrical relationship and configuration to the ratios and proportion of the Great Pyramid, in a framework where at the same time, the visible circumference of the moon perfectly eclipses the sun from the POV of a sentient, earth-based observer (us).

Furthermore, if you were to read the book Who Built the Moon? you will see for yourself that the whole thing is a set up, not only for life as we know it, including human life and the human experience, but also so that in looking and measuring, we would come to see and recognize in it what can only be understood as a message sent to us by the Creative Agency through cosmic history like a message in a bottle, and intended for our own reception and recognition, so that we could come to know that we are truly children of God made in the image of God or to reflect the Godhead, and then we have the example and model of the person of Jesus to cleary illustrate this principal of father (first father of creation) and son.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature (ie: universe) more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

reply to post by Grimpachi

The idea that some sheephearders in the desert had a direct connection with a all knowing creator of the universe who were also told a bunch of scientifically imposible and universal inaccuracies is the epitome of ignorant blatherings.

or some uneducated sheepherders were told dumbed down truths because they wouldn't be able to understand the real science behind the universe.

see what happens when you take out loaded terminology and bias?

reply to post by TXRabbit


That was the best spin of the English language I ever read. Really.

reply to post by Riffrafter


I am not speaking for Texan's but I think the question that comes from this and also why I think they did it is, do we want to support people who look at twisted falsified data and declare us the idiots for not believing their proven false assumptions on data then let sit back and take it while they BS us some more?

Bill's cred took a huge hit with me. As a professional Environmental Chemist who actually analyzes pollutant data, I cringe when Bill speaks of "consensus" on man made Global warming as he surely did. The same people changed their rhetoric when the data failed to live up to their wildest Dreams. And "really" they tell us now, they meant to say it was man made climate change via air pollution. We must have mis-heard them huh? There are lots of scientist all over the planet ready to debate them/him. CO2 is way up and no sign of warming means the models were wrong, period. By clinging to their faulty models in the face of undeniable data the IPCC people like the "science guy" do NOT represent the truth as I know it to be. I feel that he TOO sold his soul for the one world government and a few gold pieces. Then he gave honest science a raspberry over this matter in his on screen debates. I too would like to boo him for that lunacy,

The Sun is our source of warmth not man. We on Earth are seeing changes just like other planets of the solar system I have seen mentioned in articles. We have debated these issues on here adnauseam and no need to rehash.