Bill Nye Boo'd In Texas For Saying The Moon Reflects The Sun

reply to post by Justoneman


Man's inventions DOES affect earth natural pattern. If you think otherwise, As a microbiologist, i have done my share of environmental microbiology. There are things man made that nature suffers to get rid of.

If Man was more like animals,i would say man cannot affect earth, but we make some dangerous things with our evolved mind.

SubTruth
reply to post by olaru12

 

The religious crowd is crazy but on the flip side of the coin is the science crowd and guess what they are just as messed up.



I do not like Bill I personally think he is progressive scum bag who is trying to brainwash the youth. He is part of a framework to use propaganda and fear as tools for change. The religious crowd is just as crazy just in a different way.

DING DING DING,,

We have a winner!

luciddream
reply to post by Justoneman

 

Man's inventions DOES affect earth natural pattern. If you think otherwise, As a microbiologist, i have done my share of environmental microbiology. There are things man made that nature suffers to get rid of.

If Man was more like animals,i would say man cannot affect earth, but we make some dangerous things with our evolved mind.

Oh yeah you have that somewhat right, BUT.

The physics would suggest it is minutia what we do with percent of atmosphere pollutants verses output of toxic chemical soup created in natural processes. I say we do more damage to wildlife and our drinking water than anything. However, affecting overall Earth temperatures we can not do so much at all. See what happens if a volcano spews out enough to blot the sky as people die from starvation and cold. Without our Sun we will surely die off. The planet and various animals WOULD adapt as microbes are believed to be on the moons of Saturn, we would cease to exist as a society and perhaps all together. We only occupy a very small portion of the land and virtually none of the seas. It is inescapable that the planet is way bigger than we are.

The whole idea I was saying is Bill lies and I can't stand "scientist" who lie. Since my shingle is scientist I am guilty by mere association with these bozo's who spin it for political reasons to the lay people. I must defend Science IMHO. Just as Phage does, it is for MY sanity. I can't let these snake oil salesman of science slide.


AND I apologize for being a little off topic but it seemed a good time to call him a charlatan.

I guess I'm a bit confused as to why everyone's got their panties in a wadd over this. Bill Nye is right, the moon is a reflector of light. However, I don't see that the Bible is wrong either. It says there is a lesser light to rule the night, big deal. It wouldn't make sense for the Bible to go into scientific detail on how light works and how the moon reflects light and all that jazz. These were unscientific people thousands of years ago when that was written and they wouldn't have understood had it been explained anyway. I think people are just splitting hairs and looking for a reason to bash whichever side they view as the enemy. It's always Us vs. Them. Can't even talk about the moon without everyone freaking out; good grief.

The Reflecting Moon


With regards to the validity of the Old Testament as a foreshadowing and prophetic framework paving the way for the New Testament and the entrance into the frame by Jesus, I would like to offer another piece of data for consideration.

day of the cross
You will recall the story of Abraham's near sacrifice of Isaac on the mountain where at the last moment, Isaac was spared with a RAM found "caught up in a thicket nearby" as the real sacrifice prepared serendipitously or synchronistically in advance.

To clarify still further in terms of the celestial alignment on the day of the cross, what we see, symbolically demonstrated amounts to the same thing in the "piercing" of the "heart of the Ram" occurring synchronistically with Jesus "hour", where Jesus although obedient to the very point of death, fulfilled the prophecy, exiting the tomb, in liberation, three days later ie: where Isaac was spared at the last instant and in the story of Jonah (if as nothing but allegory), spit back out of the belly of the beast after three days "but there is something greater than Jonah here".

Among other things, the OT served as the prophetic framework for what I've come to refer to as "Jesus Christ's Superdeterministic, Cosmological Magnum Opus" the implication of which demonstrates that the historical Jesus would have had to have been a trained Magus of the highest order, which must have taken place during "the lost years" after which he re-entered Jewish society, circling Jerusalem, armed to the teeth to perform the ultimate heroic act in a spiritual war or what I call a "heart war" against wicked powers and principalities, at all levels.

It is therefore a type of practical joke told by God through Jesus at the expense of the "devil" demonstrating that God is all-good and makes no compromise with sin and evil while upholding the twin pillars of Justice and Mercy which bracket the Kabalistic Tree of Life.

In the telling and the "getting" of this great joke, as per the prophecy of the Revelation of John, there are two reactions/responses which go up "in the Heavens" (moves through all the spheres); one, a great groan, (which is very funny in and of itself) and two, an even greater CHEER, and as I mentioned earlier it's a joke that may very well still be on the move even to this very day..!
Ha HA! (Ho Ho Ho..).


Edit to add: It has been said that the true definition of Virtue, is power, restrained.


Best Regards, and may God Bless YOU,

NAM aka Bob

Jesus' prayer "the hour has come"

"And as my father hath first sent me, even so send I, you."

Bob Sholtz
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

The idea that some sheephearders in the desert had a direct connection with a all knowing creator of the universe who were also told a bunch of scientifically imposible and universal inaccuracies is the epitome of ignorant blatherings.

or some uneducated sheepherders were told dumbed down truths because they wouldn't be able to understand the real science behind the universe.

see what happens when you take out loaded terminology and bias?

So that all knowing all powerful being wasn't smart enough to do what public school does....hmmm.

Or there is no such being and you are grasping at straws.

I worked with one on Bill Nyes relatives and he told me he was one smart guy that happens to have a sense of humor!
I was raised a Christian and we were never told the moon emits it's own light also some of the Apollo astronauts were Christian and never thought this either (according to some of the books I read).
I don't think the crowd he addressed was:
1. The consensus of normal Texans
2. The consensus of 'normal' Christians

Sounds like he was addressing members of the Flat Earth Society!

Grimpachi
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

I remember your thread and I also remember what you were told. The alignments are close but still far enough off to disprove. Hundreds of miles or more. Yes it looks neat but proves nothing except it looks neat.

Octagons are cool as well I bet we can find a lot of things that sort of kind of line up with them as well. So what?

You don't seem to grasp what's been presented in regards to this earth-moon-sun configuration and relationship.

As to that calc by Phage

In the diagram above, the big triangle is the same proportion and angle of the Great Pyramid, with its base angles at 51 degrees 51 minutes. If you bisect this triangle and assign a value of 1 to each base, then the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) equals phi (1.618..) and the perpendicular side equals the square root of phi. And that’s not all. A circle is drawn with it’s centre and diameter the same as the base of the large triangle. This represents the circumference of the earth. A square is then drawn to touch the outside of the earth circle. A second circle is then drawn around the first one, with its circumference equal to the perimeter of the square. (The squaring of the circle.)

This new circle will actually pass exactly through the apex of the pyramid. And now the “wow”: A circle drawn with its centre at the apex of the pyramid and its radius just long enough to touch the earth circle, will have the circumference of the moon! Neat, huh! And the small triangle formed by the moon and the earth square will be a perfect 345 triangle

Ref: geometry.wholesomebalance.com...
Ref 2: nexusilluminati.blogspot.ca...
Ref 3: Strange Moon Facts

for the proportionately reduced phi ratio triangle, it was off by only 17kms for the circumference of the moon not 100's of miles.

Do you or does anyone, other than me, not find this unique moon-earth-sun relationship.configuration rather extraordinary?

When we factor in solar and lunar eclipse, it defies a "coincidence" theory as well as the strong anthropic principal in so far as our own observation of it makes the phenomenon highly meaningful and significant.

The Moon is the only natural satellite of the Earth and the fifth largest moon in the Solar System. It is the largest natural satellite of a planet in the Solar System relative to the size of its primary, having 27% the diameter and 60% the density of Earth. Among satellites with known densities, the Moon is the second densest, after Io, a satellite of Jupiter. The Moon/Earth system is the only singular planet-moon system in the Solar System.

reply to post by olaru12


You do realize this happened in 2006, right?

And that a few in the audience - who willingly showed up to hear him speak in the first place - felt insulted because they felt he was disrespecting the Bible and their beliefs.

So what, precisely, was the reason for him bringing up the Bible in the first place? Just so he could disagree with it? Yeah, pretty much.

The Emmy-winning scientist angered a few audience members when he criticized literal interpretation of the biblical verse Genesis 1:16, which reads: “God made two great lights – the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.” He pointed out that the sun, the “greater light,” is but one of countless stars and that the “lesser light” is the moon, which really is not a light at all, rather a reflector of light.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Phage pointed out a lot more than just the distance. Why do you keep ignoring the fact that the earth is egg shaped not a sphere even close to perfection. That is hundreds of miles.

I guess it doesn't fit your pre conception.

You are probably not the only one who thinks there is some great scheme to it but you havnt overcome the facts that the math does not fit.

Phage went to great lengths to explain how you were wrong you must have discarded it all because here you are trying to rehash the same flawed premise.

reply to post by 1Providence1


Ty for that post, and Bill can't dance either.

tyranny22
Come on. Both are wrong.

The Moon doesn't emit light. And it doesn't reflect light.

It's the souls that it devours that make it shine so bright!

Where's John Lear when you need him?

lol

reply to post by Grimpachi


Just like Phage your atheist bias blinds you to the significance of the data.

Like saying that a perfect eclipse isn't exactly perfect, or that the earth isn't a perfect sphere. The moon also has bumps on it, but none of that alters the nature of the geometrical relationships described.

Piercing the Heart of the Ram


OMG! someone "got it" (whoever gave me a star for that post). I hope it wasn't merely a "member of the choir" but even then it surely presented new info and a whole new perspective.

The guy in the video called it (the Ram) "the passionate lamb" but I think he was mistaken whereby a two horned Ram represents the archetype of the "power principal" of "the divided middle" still employed to this day in Masonic Lodges the world over as the head-dress (Grand Poobah hat) worn by the "worshipful master" who sits relative to the lodge (Soloman's Temple) in the position of the sun or eclipsing the sun as the "great light of the lodge", and also celebrated by politicians like George W. Bush and rockers and sold-my-soul celebs in the form of the "horn sign" - although perhaps sadly, for them, it was sacrificed, having been found synchronistically "caught up in a thicket nearby" in this case a thicket of stars, framed by the entire cosmos (divine order) - with the cross serving as a type of cosmic theodolite or survey lens as the measure of true vertical and horizontal, and thus, as the true measure of the man, at right angles, to the whole of it all.


Things that make ya go hmmmm...


For everything there is a price to be paid, whereby something is preserved and something sacrificed and discarded, and Jesus has proven his trustworthiness and value, so it's a very practical joke when it comes that for many might come too late and be a "groaner", oh well what can ya do..? LOL! May they weep and discover the hand capable of wiping away the tears from their eyes, because I wouldn't wish that kind of thing on my worst enemy, to have lost the freedom to laugh for all the right reasons when the joke is on us in our own ignorance and folly and at the expense of the devil within, pride of man, whatever you want to call "it".


Best Regards,

NAM aka Bob

NewAgeMan
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

Just like Phage your atheist bias blinds you to the significance of the data.

Like saying that a perfect eclipse isn't exactly perfect, or that the earth isn't a perfect sphere. The moon also has bumps on it, but none of that alters the nature of the geometrical relationships described.

edit on 7-11-2013 by NewAgeMan because: typo

That works both ways and since you went there.
............
Just like a religouse nutter you try to make connections where there are none ignoring obviouse truths.

The lunar eclipse is just a shadow from a larger object a solar eclipse isnt perfect and varies. The earth isn't a sphere it cannot be squared and the triangle does not line up so even though it looks cool on paper it is nothing but pseudoscience that is completely inaccurate. Your confirmation bias has blinded you from the truth no matter how hard you try it will not alter the geometrical shapes of the earth and moon.

You know ignorance is one thing, everyone is ignorant of some things but you are demonstrating willful ignorance because you have cast aside the knowledge presented to you in favor of something that must give you a warm and fuzzy feeling even though it is completely bogus. You can believe what you want I don't really care but you should stop trying to spread it around because weaker minds will latch on to those falsehoods without checking the facts themselves. Stop dumbing down the world with lies please.

Wow, you really dug up an old story...

From
Thursday, April 06, 2006

By Tim Woods

Tribune-Herald staff writer

reply to post by Grimpachi


You must be blind. But what is it that blinds you?

There are only two ways to explain the data, one is intelligent design from a first cause, or two the eventual unfolding of a sacred geometry built into the origin of creation.

NewAgeMan
You assume.

Actually, your entire hypotheses is nothing more than an assumption.

I realize that the notion of an evolutionary Christianity and a cosmic Christ is a little hard to fathom for some people especially if they've got a strong bias against it, but for the scientifically minded and the curious who might be acquainted with this type of inquiry, it's not so far fetched especially when there is data to support it.

Yet your so-called data has been proven to be in error repeatedly within this very thread.

Most will simply proceed to continue to parrot the exact same thing they did before encountering the information as if it was never presented, but I have faith in the curious reader who is interested in learning new things and looking at it all in new ways. For them it might be utterly astounding and breathtaking as I've discovered it to be.

Which can be applied to your position as well. Just because one regurgitates the same exact drivel in every response doesn't all of a sudden prove it to be valid.

I'm not really offering the info and speaking to, the "brick wall" member or reader anyway.

No, you're just trying to force feed down our throats a lot of mindless religious garble that is based on 2000 year old fairy tales.

I am sorry though that I somehow failed in my communication to you that you missed it what was being presented, that you didn't get it, but again as I said not everyone can be expected to take it in and recognize it for what it is and signifies.

No need to apologize for some of us not seeing it your way.

For me, and everyone, or anyone in particular, it's the kind of thing that when you find it and make the discovery and the connection, comes to you by surprise and not by expectation because the information, prior to comprehension, resided in the domain of an unknown unknown or what you didn't even know you didn't know, so it isn't an easy thing to take in, no matter how in your face or plain as day it may be, and for the record, total number of stars doesn't diminish it in the least, but only magnifies it's splendor and magnificence.

It's breathtaking.

Yet in the grand scheme of things, you still reside in the domain of an unknown unknown. Just as you still don't even know what you didn't know. Best wishes. ~$heopleNation

reply to post by SheopleNation


What you and your atheist friends call "drivel" is another man's treasure, and what you call a "fairy tale" is (and was) another man's absolute triumph and liberation for the sake of what is right and true and just.

"There is a principal which serves as a bar against all information and proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principal is called - contempt, prior to investigation."

~ Herbert Spencer, Scientist.