Bill Nye Boo'd In Texas For Saying The Moon Reflects The Sun

NewAgeMan
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

You've missed it. Went right past you as predicted.

SOMEONE got it though of that I have absolute faith.

Or as I see it COMPLETELY brainwashed.

reply to post by wmd_2008


Many of us could use a good brain wash because it was sullied and filled with all manner of ignorance and willful blindness to begin with according to nothing more than an apriori assumption rooted in a purely seperative, newtonian, materialist-monist, worldview which takes itself for granted ie: that we are a tiny, insignificant speck of a "thing" in an uncaring, and even hostile, unfriendly, impersonal universe - when all the while every bit of evidence stands in stark contrast and states something entirely to the contrary.

So that worldview isn't only outmoded and unworkable in an interdependent, cosmological framework, but it's not even in congruent alignment with our own experience of being alive, at the deepest level in the qualia of our own consciousness and self aware observation in looking both without and within.

That view, not the one that I've been trying to present here is the real killer that rips us from the world in a strictly subject/object division, and it has been very very successful at brainwashing us all into making a singular error ie: that it's not meaningful and significant or purpose driven, and that we are not beloved by mere virtue of our own inclusion. Just things, with nothing special going on here, nothing to see here please move along.. while taking it all for granted.

I'd say it's a reverse brainwashing then, whose intent it is to undo faulty thinking about the the world and our place in it, a POV and worldview which has actually been hurtful to our understanding and experience and not helpful because it's not in alignment with the way things are according to how they've been made, ourselves included.

Best Regards,

NAM

Grimpachi

I know you have already been told this before but I will mention it again. The earth is moving away from the earth at a slow pace so your numbers are going to keep getting further off.

Yes, that's true. And with the utmost precision (astro-engineering?), the Moon has been running an evolutionary development program on Earth, from the very beginning..

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by Overtime

Thank for making me wonder about the moon's origins, I hadn't considered it for a while but I am very skeptical a bunch of rocks from a planet collision with Earth happened to collect at that exact distance to make all that possible.

Reply by NewAgeMan

Because the moon in early earth history was much closer to the Earth (it's still moving away at about 3cm/yr), appearing as much as 12-15 times larger in the sky (if there was someone to see it),

Early Earth's

Ocean Tides..

..moved far far inland, with salt water breaking up molecular re-combinations on a continual basis, thus driving a rapid process of evolution early in earth's history.

So the moon is like a machine or a program of sorts running a program (whether by coincidence or not) in favor of the evolution of life on earth, in it's relationship to the Earth, as well as the sun and by extension the planets, the solar system, the galaxy and the cosmos as a whole.

The moon is the Rosetta stone of the planets."
—Robert Jastrow
First Chairman, NASA Lunar Exploration Committee

"The moon is the mother of the universe."
~ Ancient Egyptian saying.

Strange Moon Facts

However, and here's where it gets really interesting - it is in the midst of the epoch of Moon-Earth evolutionary history, when the moon reflects and eclipses the sun, and the shadow of the earth, the moon - that there "just so happens" to be sentient observers/measurers, on Earth, to notice it as the only one for whom it could be considered meaningful or significant.


Things that make ya go hmmmm...

squarehead666
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

You are not alone Bob.

The configuration is only as meaningful as you allow it to be.

This is true of many things.

Thank you.

Indeed.

Perhaps the most seemingly mundane things are really sacred if we only had the eyes to see and the mind by which to comprehend.

"The kingdom of heaven is spread out upon the earth but men do not see it."
~ Jesus, (the "heretical" Gnostic Gospel of John).

olaru12
www.thinkatheist.com...


Bill Nye, the harmless children's edu-tainer known as "The Science Guy," managed to offend a select group of adults in Waco, Texas at a presentation, when he suggested that the moon does not emit light, but instead reflects the light of the sun.

Oh the IRONY!!!

Nephalim
Damn... I guess folks hate us Texans.
/nod

We'll get out if you want us out.

Promise? Lone Star State and all.....

buster2010
Well Bill Nye is just talking crazy. Everybody knows the Sun goes down at night so how can the Moon be reflecting sun light. [/quotes]

Same reason probs to the sun have to go during the night or they get burnt up

liveandlearn
There is probably very fundamental church in town with a literal interpretation of the Bible.

Most Texan's aren't like that but they are christian. I am always uncomfortable having to tell someone who invites me to church that I don't go to church.

Just tell em your Jewish.
They will leave you alone for sure.

squarehead666
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

You are not alone Bob.

The configuration is only as meaningful as you allow it to be.

The Weight of Glory

NewAgeMan
P.S. Blessed are you who evaluated this info and gave me a star for it - because for most others it will go right over their head or right under their radar, completely unnoticed and unappreciated.

Atheists, in particular, will avoid it like the plague.

The IRONY!

Slightly fanatical and OTT?

Somehow this completely overlooks another, entirely different possibility, as to why it might not be greeted with an overwhelming level of appreciation. Certainly wouldn't change the irony level though.

Ray Comfort seems one up on you here...he manages to give similar proof of a creator, every bit as convincing (lol), to the same stringent scientific standards, using nothing but a banana.



Yet strangely, it also seems to have gone over everyone's head/ under their radar, in a similar way.

In a way, the Waco crowd were right to boo him. Yes, I still say the Moon (or the Sun!) is not visible from space unless looking through Earths atmosphere. There is still no proof, as NASA will not perform the simplest of experiments. So when the Waco folk claim the Moon produces its own light, they are correct, but that light is in UV,x-ray, and even gamma rays, which our eyes can not see, and only the atmosphere makes the Moon visible on Earth.
Brighter Than The Sun: Gamma Ray Moon
www.dailygalaxy.com...

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Abraham Lincoln

Well, with the Sun and Moon, I'd say NASA can fool most of the people most of the time. Do the experiments NASA.

GaryN
In a way, the Waco crowd were right to boo him. Yes, I still say the Moon (or the Sun!) is not visible from space unless looking through Earths atmosphere. There is still no proof, as NASA will not perform the simplest of experiments. So when the Waco folk claim the Moon produces its own light, they are correct, but that light is in UV,x-ray, and even gamma rays, which our eyes can not see, and only the atmosphere makes the Moon visible on Earth.

Well, with the Sun and Moon, I'd say NASA can fool most of the people most of the time. Do the experiments NASA.

Still clinging on to that BS here are images taken by the MRO in orbit over mars!!!

The Moon From Mars

Jupiter From Mars

HiRise image of Stars

Now what BS claim are you going to dream up now!!!

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Well, with the Sun and Moon, I'd say NASA can fool most of the people most of the time. Do the experiments NASA.
>>

In all honesty, It won't require much to fool you. You seem to believe the most ridiculous things.

For once, explain to me how solar panels on satellites work if the sun is not visible from space.
Or how astronauts were able to "see" the moon if the sun doesn't shine on the moon since it doesn't have an atmosphere. And about a zillion other things which discount your theory.

reply to post by NoRulesAllowed


He will be back with claims like the AIR in the suit allows the light to be seen or the cameras can see the light but you wouldn't or when in orbit outside the ISS the very very very thin atmosphere is enough to allow the light to be seen and other BS from his collection of excuses!!!

reply to post by NoRulesAllowed

For once, explain to me how solar panels on satellites work if the sun is not visible from space.

Your claims are one of the odder things I have seen on ATS but let me just address this one.

Hopefully you realize that satellites orbit the earth which means they spend more than half their time in direct line of sight of the sun as for the remainder of time they are not in sight the sun I assume you have heard of batteries.

Grimpachi
reply to post by NoRulesAllowed

 

For once, explain to me how solar panels on satellites work if the sun is not visible from space.

Your claims are one of the odder things I have seen on ATS but let me just address this one.

Hopefully you realize that satellites orbit the earth which means they spend more than half their time in direct line of sight of the sun as for the remainder of time they are not in sight the sun I assume you have heard of batteries.

edit on 14-11-2013 by Grimpachi because: (no reason given)

You should read GaryN's post re sunlight then NoRulesAllowed's post then you will realise what he meant!

reply to post by wmd_2008


Ah makes sense now. Well the oddness award goes to Gary in that case.

I sometimes wonder where people went to school to form these ideas.

reply to post by NoRulesAllowed

For once, explain to me how solar panels on satellites work if the sun is not visible from space.

They have gratings on the panels. Even some Earth based solar panels use gratings to improve efficiency. The space based panels depend on those gratings, without them there is very little conventional solar energy at the orbital heights.

Or how astronauts were able to "see" the moon if the sun doesn't shine on the moon since it doesn't have an atmosphere.

The surface of the Moon is lit mostly by Earthshine, with some 'airglow' in the Lunar ionosphere, from solar UV exciting a region of the Lunar ionosphere.
Transverse EM waves, the light from Earth, falls of at the inverse square law, but the Moon is still withing that distance, so there is enough light for them to be able to see on the Lunar surface, even though that light is about the same as dusk on Earth. They did the tests that showed they could operate by Earthshine alone, which is like Earth 20 minutes after sunset, any extra brightness from the Sun is from airglow above the Lunar surface, not like light from a big lamp.

wmd:

The light they have on the ISS is mainly reflected from the clouds on Earth. The airglow is also much brighter than it is on the Lunar surface, but again this is from solar UV exciting atoms in the thin ionosphere above the ISS, and not like sunlight on Earth. In many images from Shuttle and ISS, you will notice the lack of well defined shadows, a sign that the light source is very diffuse. Where there are sharp shadows, it is simple to tell that they are from the spotlights on their helmets or on the Canadarm, or some of the other high intensity lighting they have. It's all a show up there.

And you can ridicule all you want, but it is "most of the people fooled most of the time" in this case. Until NASA does some simple experiments, there is no PROOF that the Moon can be seen from orbit, except through that little band of ionosphere they like to show us. Not good enough. The experiments are so simple that the fact they have not been performed should raise alarms, but I guess nobody notices that the emporer has no clothes. Show me the video of the Moon I've been asking for, from the Canadarm video cameras, the simplest, cheapest, quickest test of them all, then you can mock.

reply to post by GaryN


I mock because it's BS explain these

The Moon From Mars

Jupiter From Mars

HiRise image of Stars

You avoided talking about them !!!

GaryN

In many images from Shuttle and ISS, you will notice the lack of well defined shadows, a sign that the light source is very diffuse. Where there are sharp shadows, it is simple to tell that they are from the spotlights on their helmets or on the Canadarm, or some of the other high intensity lighting they have. It's all a show up there.

No defined shadows you say

Defined Shadows

More defined shadows

YOU haven't got a clue!!!

reply to post by wmd_2008

YOU haven't got a clue!!!

Yes, I think you are right. From now on I will not question anything NASA tells me or any of the images they display. How could I ever have doubted them? I thank you and the other members who have patiently explained my misunderstandings.

I debunked this thread on pg2. If you replaced the word Christians with aliens this thread would be in the hoax wastebasket crumpled and forgotten. Yet here we are 10pages of trolling later.

Ridiculous.