Bill Nye Boo'd In Texas For Saying The Moon Reflects The Sun

I really wish this happened during the booing:



#onlyinmerika

NewAgeMan
reply to post by Grimpachi

 

You must be blind. But what is it that blinds you?

There are only two ways to explain the data, one is intelligent design from a first cause, or two the eventual unfolding of a sacred geometry built into the origin of creation.

Seriously you’re calling me blind. Can you not see the difference between a circle and an oval? Sphere and egg shape?

That video in your link was stupid drivel. You seem to be one of those people who still think you are at the center of the universe.

Save the pseudoscience and mysticism for weaker minds because I fact check.

Let me ask you this. What form/shape do you think the earth is?

www.amazon.ca...

In the diagram above, the big triangle is the same proportion and angle of the Great Pyramid, with its base angles at 51 degrees 51 minutes. If you bisect this triangle and assign a value of 1 to each base, then the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) equals phi (1.618..) and the perpendicular side equals the square root of phi. And that’s not all. A circle is drawn with it’s centre and diameter the same as the base of the large triangle. This represents the circumference of the earth. A square is then drawn to touch the outside of the earth circle. A second circle is then drawn around the first one, with its circumference equal to the perimeter of the square. (The squaring of the circle.)

This new circle will actually pass exactly through the apex of the pyramid. And now the “wow”: A circle drawn with its centre at the apex of the pyramid and its radius just long enough to touch the earth circle, will have the circumference of the moon! Neat, huh! And the small triangle formed by the moon and the earth square will be a perfect 345 triangle

Ref: geometry.wholesomebalance.com...
Ref 2: nexusilluminati.blogspot.ca...
Ref 3: Strange Moon Facts

Calculation for proportionately reduced Phi Ratio triangle - off by only 17kms (although the surface of the moon is slightly "bumpy")

"There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."

~ Isaac Asimov, the respected scientist and science-fiction guru, went on to described this perfect visual alignment as being: "The most unlikely coincidence imaginable".

The Moon is the only natural satellite of the Earth and the fifth largest moon in the Solar System. It is the largest natural satellite of a planet in the Solar System relative to the size of its primary, having 27% the diameter and 60% the density of Earth. Among satellites with known densities, the Moon is the second densest, after Io, a satellite of Jupiter. The Moon/Earth system is the only singular planet-moon pairing in the Solar System.

No matter how many times you post the same excerpts it still remains inaccurate pseudo-science.


it looks neat though

NewAgeMan
In case anyone was wondering what that was supposed to reveal, this video might help you to realize what I'm pointing to.

Please just ignore the one part where they refer top the moon's rotation keeping the same face to the earth that's called "tidal locking" and it's not the least bit unusual as there are more than 30 other moons in our solar system that do the same thing relative to their host planet. Quick question: How many planets in our solar system have only one moon? You guessed it. One - Earth.

From NASA

About Earth

Earth is an ocean planet. Our home world's abundance of water - and life - makes it unique in our solar system. Other planets, plus a few moons, have ice, atmospheres, seasons and even weather, but only on Earth does the whole complicated mix come together in a way that encourages life - and lots of it.

The Moon - A Steady Hand

The Moon is more than a pretty accessory in our night sky.

It stabilizes Earth's wobble, which led to a more stable climate and probably helped life evolve. The Moon also guides the ebb and flow of Earth's oceans.

solarsystem.nasa.gov...

"Probably" helped life evolve, that's funny, probably helped out oh a tad or so... lol

reply to post by Grimpachi


Whatever you say, and if you say it it MUST be so.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


You never answered my question.

Let me ask you this. What form/shape do you think the earth is?

Anyway just what does any of your pseudo-science have to do with Bill or the Christians being offended that he dispelled the biblical myth of the moon being its own light source?

Grimpachi
No matter how many times you post the same excerpts it still remains inaccurate pseudo-science.

it looks neat though

Frankly, I'm surprised that instead of trying to attack the data supporting this rather astonishing astronomical "coincidence" you didn't try to invoke the anthropic principal to try to deal with the implication of what I am suggesting is significant or meaningful or "special", which basically states that if it were another way, or in some other configuration than the way it is, we would not even be here to observe it in the first place thus negating it's "special" status. In other words that the data, is meaningless.

There is of course a logical problem with that contention, aside from the fact that that's not very scientific, in so far as there IS this life as a direct result and that indeed we CAN observe it and measure it, or SEE it, and thus recognize it's meaning and significance or "specialness", along with our own, as the intended observer.

So what if anything does it mean?

I'd say it's an allegory or a symbol of some kind, pointing to an original intent by anticipation or in other words that it contains a type of message intended for none other than we ourselves in the fullness of cosmic evolutionary history, which is unmistakable, and right in our face, beginning with the end in mind and with mankind included, including you and me, and not excluded, yes by design.

As far as I can see there's no other way to reconcile with the data.

Phage of course as an atheist said that it "just is" and cannot be seen as anything special.

However, it is the precise configuration needed for this life as we know it, including our own human experience, and that cannot be considered to be nothing extraordinary in the least, and neither can the "coincidence" by which our experience has been made possible.

If you don't get it - doesn't anyone "get it"?

And so what if there's a rational basis for "faith" (gnosis), what's wrong with that?


Best Regards,

NAM

Grimpachi
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

You never answered my question.

Let me ask you this. What form/shape do you think the earth is?

Anyway just what does any of your pseudo-science have to do with Bill or the Christians being offended that he dispelled the biblical myth of the moon being its own light source?

The earth is a sphere, and yes there's a slight bulge, in fact the moon causes a never-ending rotating ocean bulge known to us on land as the tides, but the earth is a spheroid, not an egg shape.


What does this have to do with Bill and the offended Christians about the light of the reflecting moon?

I was pointing out a great irony, on both sides, of the farthest reaching proportions, so as to demonstrate a certain blind spot of absolute ignorance, and to made an otherwise previously unknown unknown, made known, by which that ignorance can be seen for the absurdity that it is, or perhaps I should say, was (for those who will or who can see it).

It's very funny and very VERY ironic, even to the nth degree, and even to the degree that you've blinded yourself to it and have convinced yourself that there's nothing there, like Schultz on Hogan's Heroes.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Why would I need to show the other flaws in your premise?

I asked you a simple question which you seem to be avoiding like the plague probably because you know it destroys everything you have presented so far.

So until you answer the simple question of.

What form/shape do you think the earth is?

There is absolutely no need for me to debunk your presentation any further.


edit to add

Never mind you just busted yourself. The earth is egg shaped not a sphere. Until you can accept scientific facts such as that you will always be lost. The earth has been measured quite accurately actually. So try again.

The only thing you have thoroughly demonstrated is your willful ignorance of the facts.

Actually my bad I kept saying egg shaped and I should have said pear. Oh well point is it isn’t a sphere. To be more exact the earth is an oblate spheroid which is bulging at the equator due to density-variations, gravity, and centrifugal-force.

boymonkey74
reply to post by olaru12

 

These type of people are holding us all back as a specie..I honestly want the rapture to happen so they are taken away.
The stupidity of people and the ignorance of religion sickens me.

I live in a rural area, nothing but Christians around me.

I leave the shed door open all day, leave my truck unlocked, and nothing ever goes missing..ever. As a matter of fact, there has never been a crime here except non-Christians coming into the area.

It's terrible I tell you, living around a bunch of people with high morals and life values. sickening...

reply to post by Grimpachi


A slight bulge at the equator, as seen in that photo I posted doesn't alter the geometrical relationship involved (see pyramid geometry graphic) nor the fact that the full moon is the same visible diameter as the sun (illustrated by the full solar eclipse, something that could only be meaningful to an Earth-based sentient observer) and, that the shadow of the earth also eclipses the moon, which is a GIANT moon compared to it's primary, a moon responsible for the the long-term, stable, evolutionary development of life on earth including human life, even the female human reproductive cycle.

Without it, we simply would not be here.

So while it reflects the sun as the lessor light of the night like a midnight sun (a phenomenon unique to Earth in our Solar System), it also demonstrates in it's geometrical relationship between the Earth, Moon and Sun, a rather extraordinary series of coincidences, which I have only just touched upon here because there's even more to it than that for those who take the time to obtain and read the book Who Built the Moon? for which there are some free pfd/e-books that can be found by Googling it.

Who Built the Moon?

The moon has confounded scientists for many years. It does not obey the known rules of astrophysics and there is no theory of its origin that explains the known facts - in fact it should not really be there as it is.

When researching the ancient system of geometry and measurement used in the Stone Age, that they uncovered in their previous book, "Civilization One", the authors discovered to their great surprise that the system also works perfectly on the Moon! On further investigation, they found a consistent sequence of beautiful integer numbers when looking at every major aspect of the Moon - no pattern emerges for any other planet or moon in the solar system.

For example, the Moon revolves at exactly one hundredth of the speed that the Earth turns on its axis; the Moon is exactly 400 times smaller than the Sun and is precisely 400 times closer to the Earth.

They also discovered that the Moon possesses little or no heavy metals and has a tiny or no core, in fact many specialists suspect that the Moon is hollow or contains unknown cavities of extremely low density. If our Moon did not exist - nor would we.

Experts are now agreed that higher life only developed on Earth because the Moon is exactly what it is and where it is!
When all of the facts are dispassionately reviewed, it becomes unreasonable to cling to the idea that the Moon is a natural object. The only question that remains is, who built it?

"Thought-provoking" - "Daily Mail".

reply to post by xstealth



Jacksonville, FL crime statistics

Wow I wonder how you know only non Christians commit crimes in you neck of the woods.

Especially considering.

Percentage of population affiliated with a religious congregations: 44.19%

Other Jacksonville, FL statistics.

While raising hand and saying.... save the watch it’s getting deep.






www.city-data.com...

Grimpachi
reply to post by xstealth

 

Jacksonville, FL crime statistics

Wow I wonder how you know only non Christians commit crimes in you neck of the woods.

Especially considering.

Percentage of population affiliated with a religious congregations: 44.19%

Other Jacksonville, FL statistics.

While raising hand and saying.... save the watch it’s getting deep.






www.city-data.com...

I don't live in Jacksonville, it's the nearest big city an hour away.

I said I live in a rural area.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


I have already told you the earth is.

the earth is an oblate spheroid which is bulging at the equator due to density-variations, gravity, and centrifugal-force.

Saying otherwise is a lie. You can ignore the facts if you want but close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades.

I know you have already been told this before but I will mention it again. The earth is moving away from the earth at a slow pace so your numbers are going to keep getting further off.

Without it, we simply would not be here.

We may not but something else probably would.

reply to post by xstealth


I was going by what you proclaim in on your avatar. Still I can’t see how you could possibly know the religious affiliation of everyone in your area including those who have committed crimes there. If you state otherwise I hope you can back it up with something substantial.

reply to post by Grimpachi


You've missed it. Went right past you as predicted.

SOMEONE got it though of that I have absolute faith.

One more pic that I forgot to add in the big post above


That's the moon that I myself was born under LOL

So according to folklore or astrology or whatever, this might be my last round on this mortal coil, and thus my passionate enthusiasm and great sense of urgency in wanting to get this info I've discovered in my mad searching across to someone, anyone, so as to forward the message in a bottle even if only from this lowly place here at ATS.

Best Regards,

NAM aka Bob
November 9th, 2013, via the Internet or Interweb.
Vancouver Canada
Earth
P.S. Or at least that's what I've been told.. it appears legit, and utterly phenomenal when framed in it's larger context (see my sig image below) which amounts to what might be called the bejeweled, starry sky, where every single centimeter held out at arms length, throughout the entirety of the outward-looking sphere is quite literally bejeweled (both with stars as well as galaxies) even though it appears dark by the inverse law of light propogation, this is also true and a fact, that the cosmological context is equally if not even more breathtaking to consider as the context by which THIS (looking around) has come into being..

Note that I've never once discounted the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe in this little thesis. However, based on actual observation, I am most definitely saying that right here at Earth we do see the most extraordinary configuration as a perfect model of what is possible in regards to the long term evolution of life, but that it also contains this strange REFLECTING principal, something that could only be meaningful in the context by which it is presented, to us, well when you accept it, the data, in regards to it's potential meaning and significance, and allow the larger framework to present itself, then you realize that yes, we really do stand atop a mountain of cosmic evolutionary development by anticipation and arising from an original intent (or the symbol or the sign wouldn't be there), even if being the last on the scene it may be said that "the last shall be first and the first, last" just because that's the way that "heaven" rolls, with man included and not excluded, the implication of which there is still a lot of work to do let us say to realize the objective of bringing heaven to earth, and earth heavenwards. Sadly that's probably already the case in a non-local holographic universe, how embarrassing for us. Therefore, once we re-discover our true place in God's creation as another precious jewel or fine pearl (in formation), let us learn how to get the ball of increasing integrity and love rolling and made damn sure we don't drop it again (forget ourselves).

The implication is that yes, it reveals that life is possible, but there's more to it than that, because what we see in this Earth-Moon-Sun configuration is a manifestation of an original intent weighted perfectly in favor of life, selected from absolute infinite potential in order to that this very experience we are having might be possible. It's a shared framework, but also an open one. As to what's in the domain of the unknown unknown that remains something for God to know and hopefully, for us to find out, but who's to say if THIS is possible what other tricks might be up his longgggg sleeve.. because it's been realized already at least once in this particular galaxy, so that bodes well for unimaginable things..

Nevertheless, the UCA "unknown creative agency" could not help but to sign the work so that in the fullness of time and history we too, like Jesus, would self recognize and re-identify as well as "sons of God" and in our case or in most cases I should say even in spite of ourselves (unmerited Grace), and that's astonishing and hilarious both at the same time, imo. By God I mean the all in all unto the originating center and source of life.

It's playful, creative and something that we've otherwise completely taken for granted, when all the while it was right in front of our eyes - I saw a big clear moon peaking through the city buildings earlier this evening, and it was big and very clear kind of freaked me out a little bit to be honest based on what we've been investigating and exploring here in this thread of late. It's like it was saying a big hello and it was big, clear and brighter than usual, but no I don't really think it was talking to me, but with this knowledge and data, it does add something awesome, to the sight of the reflecting moon. Ha ha!


God Bless,

NAM aka Bob

reply to post by NewAgeMan


You are not alone Bob.

The configuration is only as meaningful as you allow it to be.

This is true of many things.

We will be discussing this awesome thread on ATS Live tonight.

www.abovetopsecret.com...