BREAKING NEWS: Former prime minister Baroness Thatcher dies peacefully at the age of 87 after suffer

This is the sort of disgraceful behaviour i refer to

www.dailymail.co.uk...

And George Galloway is a traitor to the UK and should be charged with treason, his vile tweet confirms what a despicable man he is. But thats a debate for another day.

Originally posted by TheComte
reply to post by Credenceskynyrd

 

Yeah, right buddy. The only reason it didn't happen is because her own party wouldn't back her on these "radical" ideas.

"proposals"


versus


ACTUAL percentage spending of GDP on welfare-

Originally posted by Credenceskynyrd

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
It sickens me that people are holding parties to celebrate her death. For crying outloud. She has not even been dead a day. I did not like her policies except for the Falklands save for the sinking of the Belgrano. However she was not evil like say Un in North Korea or Pol Pot. I will cheer when an evil person like that dies. But it is totally uncalled for when discussing Thatcher. She was a politican, nothing more nothing less, and like it or not was a leading political figure of the 20th century.

Have some basic civil curtesty. Irrespective of whether one liked her politics or not!

Pol Pot is evil, but Thatcher isn't... even though Thatcher supported Pol Pot?

Colour me confused. Colour you confused, actually

"supported", oh this should be good- she actively supported the left wing extermination of one million people.

The right wing bogeyman "supporting" leftists


buahahahahahaha

Yes she did. You didn't know? She didn't much like the Vietnamese, neither did her friend Pol Pot. Enemy of my enemy, what not.

Thatcher had the SAS training the Khmer Rouge. Laugh all you want its true

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
This is the sort of disgraceful behaviour i refer to

www.dailymail.co.uk...

And George Galloway is a traitor to the UK and should be charged with treason, his vile tweet confirms what a despicable man he is. But thats a debate for another day.

I do not condone or incite violence, but I do not know what I would do if I came face to face with George Galloway..........maybe bring him a saucer of milk

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National assets that were won with the blood and lives of working men, who were sent into some rich banksters war. By their elitest cronies, people like thatcher the milk snatcher. Does not matter if they are left right or center. Tory lib or labour. They are all in the same gang and its a gang that dosnt include us plebs.
Ours is not to ask the reason why, but just to do or die.
As to the falklands? Well those brits were there before Argentina ever existed. So they do have a claim to it in my mind.

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Originally posted by Credenceskynyrd

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
It sickens me that people are holding parties to celebrate her death. For crying outloud. She has not even been dead a day. I did not like her policies except for the Falklands save for the sinking of the Belgrano. However she was not evil like say Un in North Korea or Pol Pot. I will cheer when an evil person like that dies. But it is totally uncalled for when discussing Thatcher. She was a politican, nothing more nothing less, and like it or not was a leading political figure of the 20th century.

Have some basic civil curtesty. Irrespective of whether one liked her politics or not!

Pol Pot is evil, but Thatcher isn't... even though Thatcher supported Pol Pot?

Colour me confused. Colour you confused, actually

"supported", oh this should be good- she actively supported the left wing extermination of one million people.

The right wing bogeyman "supporting" leftists


buahahahahahaha

Yes she did. You didn't know? Pol Pot didn't much like the Vietnamese, neither did her friend Pol Pot. Enemy of my enemy, what not.

Thatcher had the SAS training the Khmer Rouge. Laugh all you want its true

I have no doubt dirty things go on and Thatcher is not innocent, but that does not constitute supporting Pol Pot

That is right - duh...????

Most people were anti Margaret Thatcher were they ? - that is why she was voted into office 3 times !!!!!

seeing these sorts of halfwits doing jigs and drinking their cheap liquor, wow, I can see a few bumpy rides ahead for Britain on many levels, we will see what happens

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Originally posted by destination now
Everyone moans about the removal of free milk in schools, I, for one was glad, I was forced to drink the putrid gunk even though I had a dairy allergy and I haven't met a single person in my life who enjoyed drinking the stuff, so it was good riddance to that as far as I'm concerned.

As for the sale of the council houses, the majority of people who gained from that were the low income tenants (mostly Labour voters!) who bought their homes at knock down prices then sold them on at vast profits to the very same private landlords everyone is moaning about..

As for the coal mining industry, the threatened closures were to a few, unprofitable pits, but it was Arthur Scargill (and his open hatred for Thatcher...) that really closed the pits down, creating horrible divisions in communities and even in families by calling for all out strikes across the whole UK and threatening anyone who refused to support the strike with being ostracised from their communities...Scabs was the name given to anyone who to go to work and provide for their families..meanwhile Scargill sat in his ivory tower with an enormous salary, he didn't care about the miners, only his personal vendetta.

Yes, I agree that many of the policies were harsh, I grew up in the 80's in Scotland, but I did take Norman Tebbit's advice and "got on my bike" and I was rarely out of work. and of course ultimately the UK was a very wealthy country after 18 yrs of Tory rule, which is more than can be said after 13 yrs of New Labour...

But all of this childish celebration stuff really gets on my nerves, and I hope that anyone doing it would stop and think for a minute about how they would feel if the death of one of their relatives prompted such a reaction

This Scargill fellow sounds much like the union boss scum here in the states. Live high on the hog on union dues.

Not sure if he was as criminal or had mob ties like many union bosses over here.

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Yes most people were against Thatcher. Not once did she achieve over 50% of the vote - a quirk of the first past the post system in this country.

Supporting the Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge with money and SAS training does not support supporting Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. How does that work?

And then you have Pinochet.

All the while she was vilifying Mandella as a terrorist.

The woman was stark raving mental. A war monger of the highest order.

Doesn't matter if she was voted into office three times. Election polls are not the definitive reflection of public sentiment.

Thatcher was elected 3 times because the filth on the right loved her.

Originally posted by DISRAELI

Originally posted by GrandStrategy
Most people were against the war. There's a lot of contempt for Thatcher for the entire Falklands saga

Was that why the "Falklands Factor" was supposed to have won her the next election?

From a nation brainwashed by the media. Anyone who votes for any party leader who has a policy of war, needs a checkup from the neckup.

Originally posted by Credenceskynyrd
Check out welfare spending as a percentage of GDP for the 80s, 90s and 21st century-

It is not up to me to prove you correct. You are making extraordinary claims so you must provide the evidence. Show me the numbers and I'll gladly admit I'm wrong if that is what the numbers show.

Health spending declined in the late 1970s, down to 4.7 percent of GDP in 1979 and increased thereafter, reaching 5.64 percent of GDP in 1983 before beginning a decline to 5.16 percent in 1988. Then spending jolted upwards, reaching 6.31 percent of GDP by 1993 before a steep decline to 4.91 percent of GDP in 1998.

Spending began increasing sharply after 1999, and is expected to reach a planned expenditures of 8.43 percent of GDP in 2010.

www.ukpublicspending.co.uk...

Originally posted by christina-66
reply to post by HelenConway

 

Yes most people were against Thatcher. Not once did she achieve over 50% of the vote - a quirk of the first past the post system in this country.

this does not show anti Falklands sentiment, there is nowehere to show people were in shame over the Falklands

Her levels of victory, with higher voter turnout, is something today's crop would give their right nut for- or maybe they wouldn't as the lib/lab/tories are all the same

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

If you think its sick across the board, to celebrate the death of anybody, then I have the utmost respect for your position. But if you aren't going to stick to your views no matter whose death is being celebrated, and most of you aren't going to lets be honest, then your outrage and disgust is worth nothing.

Although within you may be happy at someone's death, to come on a public forum and post such comments and links is disrespectful to those that may have been close to her and that are completely innocent. This is a public forum, YouTube is a public viewing platform, I would not want my feelings of happiness at someone's death to hurt an innocent party/family member in grieving, no matter how remote the chance. Is this not just common decency?

I guess some people are completely different, I wouldn't have the front to celebrate a persons death in public, even if it were my worse enemy... it's not heroic by any stretch.

I lived through her leadership, my life and those around me was not like people keep trying to push (and I'm not rich), it may have been bad for some but it wasn't for others... that's why trying to argue she was a tyrant is impossible because she wasn't in the majorities view, 10 years as PM will tell you that.

It's hard to convince a person that witnessed the very time your telling them about with bias lists, links and videos that everything was so bad... it wasn't and she wasn't.

She split opinion unlike people such as Hitler, these are the facts... everything else is noise, I understand people's dislike for her but why don't these same people understand other people's view... I've yet to see it but I understand why.

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You what???? The poster tried to evidence that most people must have been for Thatcher because she was elected three times. I merely pointed out that she was never elected by 50% or more of the population ergo most of the population was against her.

We've moved on from the Falklands - do keep up.

There are two threads in one going on here:
- Do you mourn the death of an ex political leader / human being?
- Did she leave Britain in a better state than she took control of it?

Any sane person would feel sorry for the Thatcher family at this moment and maybe it is not the time to ask the 2nd question about what she did for Britain. Although living through those days, I can honestly understand the resentment. During the late 70s and 80s, peoples attitude in Britain changed from looking after each other to "every man for himself" (or fittest survive) as shown by the popular character at the time Loadsamoney. Greed was good in the 80s,

So how much of this evil self interest can be apportioned to the strong UK leader who was playing on the world stage?

As for the Falklands, during the war, the Argentine pilot hit a number of UK Ships but the bombs did not go off. It later turned out that the pilots were so brave that they dropped the bombs too low and the fuses could not ignite the bomb in time. Had the bombs exploded, it could have easily been a different war.

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Look at the Thatcher "spike" the right wing harridan with huge percentage of welfare spend- some people are happy in the illusion, the bearded and pink haired clowns dancing in the streets of London

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You say "quote" Most people were against the war there's a lot of contempt for

Thatcher for the entire Falklands Saga.


Does that mean you'll feel the same contempt about Tony Blair? going into Iraq??

Many more killed in that war!!...