BREAKING NEWS: Former prime minister Baroness Thatcher dies peacefully at the age of 87 after suffer

reply to post by HelenConway

There is a saying that says - have respect for the dead and I believe that should be so.

It's just a saying. Do you know who first said it? I sure don't, but what if it was Hitler?

The thing is, if these suspected child sexual abusers aren't tried in a court of law before they're dead, they usually die with respect when it's not deserved because people choose to stick their heads in the sand and quote sayings by anonymous people.

reply to post by Afterthought

I just found the thread....


To a great woman. She helped define an Era and did it with class.

May she Rest in Peace. Godspeed......

reply to post by Credenceskynyrd


Well that was a cryptic response.....and I'm not pre-judging - and neither were those celebrating in the vid. She was out of power 23 years ago - that's a lot of hindsight.

Originally posted by Watchfull
She had the toughest of jobs.

Cure the UK from years of ultra left wing labour socialist abuse.

The country was known as the sick man of Europe, and with good reason.

Maybe some of the ill wishers would prefer to be at the beck and call of the socialist workers party, where unions ruled the workplace, and the cabinet.

You mean like all the nordic countries in europe with their ample unions and socialism that have the highest standards of living in the world right now?

The reality doesn't compare to your propaganda.

May she rot in hell with her great friend SIR jimmy so VILE savil.
Destroyed the mining industry here in the UK and bought the coal from those nice south africans.
. www.mathaba.net...
She invited jimmy so VILE savil for xmass dinner, 11 years running whilst in office. They were very `close friends`. So what did she and a child rapist have in common? What about the police? MI5/6 ect ?

Originally posted by TheComte
What goes around, comes around. I recall many people on here celebrating Chavez's death not too long ago.

The West is quick to vilify any leader they don't agree with, and deify those they do. The result is the truth gets buried.

Tell it like it is:

Margaret Thatcher was a strong-willed woman. But it's too bad she didn't give a damn about the common working person, or she may have done great things with her time in office. Instead, her failed policies set England on a path to massive debt, and eventually she was taken down by a revolt from within her own party.

She was a friend to right-wing dictators Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein and General Suharto. And she called Nelson Mandela a terrorist. No one can argue that she wasn't on the wrong side of history in many respects.

well he was a terrorist, whether you thought it was a good or a bad thing, it was what he was- hardly a "friend" to Saddam and she faced down extreme leftists in the Soviet Union and fought one of those nasty "right wing dictators" you refer to, in Argentina. She made a mistake about Europe in the 80s though realised her folly, too late as it happens, and saw the direction the EU was taking and wanted to stop it- the EU will die and she will be on the right side of that history

Mind you, for ALL the vilifcation of her, percentage spending on welfare was higher under her era than under Blair

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


I won't argue with her that she defined an era. She probably helped shape a few generations, too. I hope that some of the victims from these generations come forward with indisputable evidence and her grave is demolished the same way Jimmy SoVILE's was.
Funny the way humans give more respect to the dead than they do the living. This is a very backarsewards way of thinking if you ask me.

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

Originally posted by Watchfull
She had the toughest of jobs.

Cure the UK from years of ultra left wing labour socialist abuse.

The country was known as the sick man of Europe, and with good reason.

Maybe some of the ill wishers would prefer to be at the beck and call of the socialist workers party, where unions ruled the workplace, and the cabinet.

You mean like all the nordic countries in europe with their ample unions and socialism that have the highest standards of living in the world right now?

The reality doesn't compare to your propaganda.

no two countries are the same, and the Nordic countries are not socialist- they have a democratic welfare state, but they are not socialist

reply to post by HelenConway


Ah, yes. It's easy for her fans to gloss over her many shortcomings. Personally, I don't care. But the truth should be told along with all the adulation that you will throw at her. Sometimes you just have to admit that a person was not all that great. After all, we're here to deny ignorance. Have a nice day.

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

I won't argue with her that she defined an era. She probably helped shape a few generations, too. I hope that some of the victims from these generations come forward with indisputable evidence and her grave is demolished the same way Jimmy SoVILE's was.
Funny the way humans give more respect to the dead than they do the living. This is a very backarsewards way of thinking if you ask me.

no it isn't, it defines use from the animals, the ability to differentiate between the living and the dead, and the irremovable finality of it all- she knows now whether there is a heaven or hell, we all will one day, for all those on their cheap cider party tonight, wonder what secrets they will have to account for....

Evil old Boot.....i hope they thrust a Stake through her Cold Black Heart....Mat she rot in hell. in saying that, she probably has shut down half of the furnaces already and she's only been there a few hours..


Ding Dong the wicked witch is dead..

Some people are saying they want Ding Dong the Witch is Dead to go to number 1. I will be doing overtime in work to buy my copies.

reply to post by TheComte


I am interested in people being respectful of a former Prime Minister of Great Britain - plain and simple.

It is called respect. Nothing to do with politics.

reply to post by Credenceskynyrd


If you say so, bro. That must be the radical right's version of history. If you call fighting for equal rights under the law "terrorism," then I feel sorry for you. Facts are facts and credible historians do not dispute them.

But, hey, everyone has a right to their own opinion no matter how wrong it is.

Have a nice day.

some of these halfwits don;t even realise oul "socialist" Tony Benn closed more pits than Maggie did, a good decade earlier

reply to post by Credenceskynyrd

Respect for the dead separates us from the animals?
....


Wow.
You do know that elephants have been known to mourn when they come across other elephant bones, right?
You also know that animals don't hurt other animals emotionally and cause other animals deep scars, right?
You are aware that animals aren't capable of ritual sex abuse, right?

I guess I'm done here.
Good luck, UK. You're going to need it if you don't start getting in gear instead of waiting for these sex criminals to die and escape the scrutiny of a trial.

reply to post by HelenConway


It would be nice if the radical right wingers would do the same when leaders they don't agree with pass away. But they don't.

And I never said anything disrespectful. Just told the truth.

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by Credenceskynyrd

 

Respect for the dead separates us from the animals?
....

Wow.
You do know that elephants have been known to mourn when they come across other elephant bones, right?
You also know that animals don't hurt other animals emotionally and cause other animals deep scars, right?
You are aware that animals aren't capable of ritual sex abuse, right?

I guess I'm done here.
Good luck, UK. You're going to need it if you don't start getting in gear instead of waiting for these sex criminals to die and escape the scrutiny of a trial.

yes, those actions are the same aren't they, those isolated unknowns (because, and here is the deal, none of us speak elephant) are the same as us thinking of issues such as the afterlife and a person's memory

Some monkeys eat other monkeys, you know that right

reply to post by HelenConway

She never showed one once of respect to the common man in her life.....The IRA missed her by feet......God did the rest. Now she will be judged.

Yes, rest in peace you rancid old bag.

Remembering

British coal, steel and manufacturing industry, social housing, deregulation of financial services, asset stripping an entire country placing its major services into foreign ownership and breeding a generation of selfish arrogant pricks.

They all went well, didn't they. Short term gain and up yours to the future epitomises Tory ideals since she took over. Their pamper the rich and screw the poor attitude is still at the forefront of their policy making as people face massive rises in the cost of living but people on more than £150k get a tax cut! Some legacy! .