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Originally posted by truejew
So are you saying Jesus was with Jesus?

That's what Modalism claims, so obviously not.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
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Now you are saying repentance and praise to Jesus is "satanic" and "self-induced hysteria". I would not want to be in your shoes at judgement.

For all your "tongues" ability with the spirit, you seem to have a problem understanding English.
What I said was that if there is a "satan" element, it would be through the actions of the cult leader by encouraging frantic hysterical behavior by calling it "holy".

You have really become like Adjensen in your recent posts. Insulting people and hate for God.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
So are you saying Jesus was with Jesus?

That's what Modalism claims, so obviously not.

Then you do not teach that Jesus was God, He was just with someone else who was God.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
So are you saying Jesus was with Jesus?

That's what Modalism claims, so obviously not.

Then you do not teach that Jesus was God, He was just with someone else who was God.

No, that is not what trinitarians teach, stop lying about it.

What "fruits of the spirit" does your constant lying demonstrate?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jmdewey60
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He didn't say that. God the Father is the Father, God His Son is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is also God and at times was sent by the Father, and in the NT was sent by Jesus.

There is no term "God the Son" or "God the Spirit" in the New Testament.
The NT says that there is one God, and one lord, Jesus Christ.

I believe there is One God, the Father, and One Lord, Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6)

In trinitarianism Jesus Christ is separate from the one God, the Father.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
So are you saying Jesus was with Jesus?

That's what Modalism claims, so obviously not.

Then you do not teach that Jesus was God, He was just with someone else who was God.

No, that is not what trinitarians teach, stop lying about it.

What "fruits of the spirit" does your constant lying demonstrate?

Either Jesus was with God and was God. Or Jesus was not God. Make up your mind.

truejew,

We're upset with you cause you refuse to look at the facts. Instead, following some creepy present day preacher. We can know, the Apostles revealed more of a divine mystery after being enlightened by God the Holy Spirit. They better understood Jesus' revelation about the Blessed Trinity.

Do you understand Apostolic Succession? Please, quit following the rotten heresy of "private judgment." Good Lord.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by jmdewey60
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I don't recall saying that speaking in tongues was "gibberish".

So, what are you talking about, then?
Do you have people in your church who are from some other country who don't know a single word of English, who get the spirit and are immediately perfectly understood by people who only understand English, praising God, even though they think that they are speaking in their normal language?

edit on 3-8-2013 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)

Who says the tongues has to be English. There are other languages.

Then why does Gary Reckart say that baptisms in the name of anyone other than "gee-zus" are not necessarily valid?

The name of Jesus can be spoken in other languages and still be the name of Jesus. Jeshas/Jesous/Jesus are the same name. Yeshua is not.

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Again, you do not have/do those things.

Well, it's official prophecy isn't your gift. Every time I sin and make a mistake a small still voice inside convicts me and I repent. I put all my trust in Christ alone as my Savior. And I have been proclaiming that Jesus is the Lord for over a decade. So how do I do these things without the Holy Spirit?

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

There's a reason why Christians say that Jesus is our God.

You may think that, but most Christians don't.
Christians generally believe in the Trinity, where the person we think of as "God" is the Father, and Jesus is another person of the godhead who is the Son.
What you are doing is trying to promote a Oneness doctrine, something that the New Testament does not teach.

edit on 3-8-2013 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)

Jesus is God to Trinitarians. God manifest in the flesh.

Trinitarians teach that Jesus is only one god person out of three. According to Adjensen's teaching on John1:1-2 God refers to the Father and Jesus isn't God.

He didn't say that. God the Father is the Father, God His Son is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is also God and at times was sent by the Father, and in the NT was sent by Jesus.

He did say that since Jesus was with God He could not have been God.

Quote please?

I defended you a few posts ago, but perhaps you do have some small issues reading English.

Originally posted by truejew
Either Jesus was with God and was God. Or Jesus was not God. Make up your mind.

Trinitarianism teaches that God the Son (Jesus) is a separate person from God the Father.

Modalism is nonsense that makes a mess of scripture, trinitarianism is a solid doctrine that is in harmony with scripture.

Unless you can make sense of "In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with Jesus, and Jesus was Jesus. Jesus was with Jesus in the beginning," your stupid Modalism is rejected by scripture itself.

Originally posted by colbe
the Apostles revealed more of a divine mystery after being enlightened by God the Holy Spirit.

Show us quotes from the apostles that show your claim.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

He didn't say that. God the Father is the Father, God His Son is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is also God and at times was sent by the Father, and in the NT was sent by Jesus.

There is no term "God the Son" or "God the Spirit" in the New Testament.
The NT says that there is one God, and one lord, Jesus Christ.

I believe there is One God, the Father, and One Lord, Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6)

In trinitarianism Jesus Christ is separate from the one God, the Father.

Not seperate, they are one, Jesus said this. He is co-eternal and co-equal with the Father.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Every time I sin and make a mistake a small still voice inside convicts me and I repent.

Not every time.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

I put all my trust in Christ alone as my Savior. And I have been proclaiming that Jesus is the Lord for over a decade. So how do I do these things without the Holy Spirit?

Again, you cannot do those things while rejecting the teachings of Jesus and His apostles.

A good first step for you would be to repent and get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by adjensen
Trinitarianism teaches that God the Son (Jesus) is a separate person from God the Father.

Yes, trinitarians teach Jesus is separate from the one God, the Father.

Originally posted by adjensen

Unless you can make sense of "In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with Jesus, and Jesus was Jesus. Jesus was with Jesus in the beginning," your stupid Modalism is rejected by scripture itself.

I have no problems with John 1:1-2. In the beginning was the Messieh and the Messieh was with God and the Messieh was God in flesh. The distinction is not between gods, but between God and Messieh.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

There's a reason why Christians say that Jesus is our God.

You may think that, but most Christians don't.
Christians generally believe in the Trinity, where the person we think of as "God" is the Father, and Jesus is another person of the godhead who is the Son.
What you are doing is trying to promote a Oneness doctrine, something that the New Testament does not teach.

edit on 3-8-2013 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)

Jesus is God to Trinitarians. God manifest in the flesh.

Trinitarians teach that Jesus is only one god person out of three. According to Adjensen's teaching on John1:1-2 God refers to the Father and Jesus isn't God.

He didn't say that. God the Father is the Father, God His Son is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is also God and at times was sent by the Father, and in the NT was sent by Jesus.

He did say that since Jesus was with God He could not have been God.

Quote please?

I defended you a few posts ago, but perhaps you do have some small issues reading English.

Adjensen did say that Jesus was with God and that God was not referring to Jesus.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

He didn't say that. God the Father is the Father, God His Son is Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is also God and at times was sent by the Father, and in the NT was sent by Jesus.

There is no term "God the Son" or "God the Spirit" in the New Testament.
The NT says that there is one God, and one lord, Jesus Christ.

I believe there is One God, the Father, and One Lord, Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6)

In trinitarianism Jesus Christ is separate from the one God, the Father.

Not seperate, they are one, Jesus said this. He is co-eternal and co-equal with the Father.

Is Jesus the Father?

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Is Jesus completely schizo?

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No, he didn't say that at all. Go back and re-read the dialogue.

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Again, you cannot do those things while rejecting the teachings of Jesus and His apostles.

A good first step for you would be to repent and get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

Again, you don't know what I believe. I trust in Christ's completed work at Calvary alone, nothing else. He is the only Savior. And I have been proclaiming that Jesus is Lord for over a decade.

I just "did it" twice now. So explain how this is possible without the Holy Spirit.