Are You Buying The Anti-Muslim Propaganda?

Originally posted by glen200376
reply to post by Telos

 

Did the op give you an edited mention too?Brilliant and he spouts about propaganda!
We have the right to hate who we want,if that yanks the ops chain then good.

Those excerpts were intended to show the opinions of people here, and they do that. The removed words were "Muslim", "Islam" and so on, this was done to enforce the point of the discussion. For instance, you could replace those [REMOVED] words with "gay people", "Jews", "black people" etc...

The frame of reference is neither here nor there, they are quotes from threads attacking a group of people based on their religious beliefs or their nationality.

I have a feeling that the real reason you are so angry about this is because it exposes the extremism of your views, not that you feel they were taken out of context.

Originally posted by Sablicious
Do not exonerate the evils of religion in your efforts to keep up with the Joneses in the fashionable heaping of blame on Western society for everyone's ills and sundry. Although hardly angelic in all of its undertakings, the West is far from culpable for the patent lack of evolutionary progress of others.

Please show me, in my post, where I blame the West for the ill's of the world. I think you read the wrong post.

I give up on this thread.

I'm stunned by the complete lack of logic and reason here, but I'm more shocked by the number of people who cannot comprehend the intention of the thread.

Mods, pleas lock/delete this thread. It's being constantly hijacked by people insisting on debating what is already being debated everywhere else.

Originally posted by buster2010
Why is it when a Muslim nation is attacked and they strike back it's called terrorism? America and the UN are killing people all over the world far more than what Islam does so why aren't you complaining about them?

Perhaps he has enough sense to see the forest beyond the trees...

Islam, America, and the UN are all just individual pieces of a much bigger puzzle.

This post from a month ago causes me to wonder: are you even INTERESTED in the truth?

Perhaps others who will read this ARE...

The Illuminati are behind ALL world events, ALL false religions, and ALL wars:

One group and one group alone is responsible for virtually all wars and bloodshed on the face of this planet. This evil cabal is few in numbers but, like a deadly octopus, its tentacles reach out to grip and strangle untold multitudes of innocent victims. The initiates of every secret society and internationalist organization, from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Jesuits to the Bilderbergers and the Order of Skull & Bones, obey the dictates of this sinister group and tremble when standing before its leaders.

The cabalist group I refer to is the Synagogue of Satan, an ancient, yet modern, elite so politically powerful and so fabulously wealthy that even past history has been twisted, reshaped, and revised to meet its preferred version of humanity's gloomy, totalitarian future.

Religious in nature, the Synagogue of Satan is, at its essence, a grotesque, satanic cult. It's high council is composed of High Priests of Lucifer; these are men who literally worship death while practicing sexual magick and occult rituals of the blackest nature. The Synagogue of Satan

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
THE REAL QUESTION IS,

WHY ARE WE SUPPRESSING HISTORY?

youtu.be...

I know why, do you?

www.politicalislam.com...

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Great Post, so far 2 pages later no one even read it as it seems....

Sad, truly sad so many have zero history under their belts, simply ignore anything beyond a singular blurb or stupid politically correct statements that are in fashion.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
THE REAL QUESTION IS,WHY ARE WE SUPPRESSING HISTORY?

I know why, do you?

It's so awesome to see others asking the same questions I have been asking for years.

Here are the answers that I have come up with:

The origins of Islam
How the Vatican created Islam
All false religions are illuminati created

No I am not buying the propoganda, they were too obvious about it..
In fact it is having the opposite effect I am more sympathetic to them.

Originally posted by SrWingCommander
No I am not buying it.....

I've pretty much always been anti muslim....






Let me qualify that. I have a few acquaintances that are muslim. I have no individual personal problem with them.

But I am opposed to the actions of them collectively because tennents of their religion are diametricly opposed to "our" culture. By that I mean western liberalism. The basic proponents of what they beleive are incompatable with western liberalism and most Judeo/Christian values. In the long term the two cultures cannot coexist. when they do there is almost always some sort of friction and/or violence. (there are some exceptions but they are few and far between).

Look I am a Christian, but I don't want, nor is the US set up to be, a theocracy. Despite some well (and not so well intentions) the vast majority of modern Chrsitians do not want a theocracy in the US (most Christians can't agree on half of what we beleive) And Chrsitiainty is about a spiritual relationship not a state governing system. Seperation of Church and state goes both ways, and was originally intended to keep the state out of the church, not the other way around. But I digress.

But having your theology be your governing authority, not a good idea, and it is just that in the majority of Islamic states, to one degree or another.....

Look, there maybe some serious conspiracies that place incorrect blame on muslims. We probably shouldn't be involved wtth the ME in the way we are, occupying land in what primarily has to do with controlling the oil trade. That doesn't change the fact that the two cultures are basicly incompatable.

Christianity had a Reformation
Islam has not.

That's also a key difference to the two. You tend NOT to see that much muslim outcry against say, Al Queda or Muslim Brother hood. Contrast that with Christianity, far fewer extremists, and only rarely violent, and the mainstream churches speak out against those that groups that do use violence or extreme hate......contrasted with Islam, very little outcry. .

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By saying this you include all southern nations. That is all countries south of Spain. That would include Israel as well. Israelis look very much like Arabs and have very similar customs to Arabs. Actually it's next to impossible to see the difference.
If this is not racial intolerance than I don't know what is.

the truth is many people dont like the muslim religion and just like they were looking for a reason to act so are we.

The truth is staring us in the face. Poverty, hate and oppression being called a gift to allahs followers.

Of course I'm not buying this bull. Zoom out and see the bigger picture here people. My guess, a false flag in the near future, bunch of people die; oh hey we know who to point our fingers at. Problem-Reaction-Solution at its best. The truth of the matter is, TPTB are DESPERATE. They need a WWIII. They are running out covert plans and sweating like crazy.

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Lol , I know. The majority atheist can't stand christians but christians can't stand muslims too honey.

This ridiculous individual haven't got a clue about islam and history. His decieving the audience. PHD in deception folks!


A must see video

What Propaganda? Yes, there have been the usual LETS KILL ALL THE MUSLIMS posts, but those types are the minority.....the only thing that is being said that there is a significant portion of the Muslim population (and I said significant, NOT THE MAJORITY) who seem to follow an extremist form of Islam. These current protests, and actions of many Muslims show the rest of the world an intolerance, that we should censor ourselves because Muslims are over-sensitive...perhaps we won't buy into the "Propaganda" when we actually see Muslims protest these acts of extremism, protest that thousands of women and girls who are murdered and raped every year (and heck, those who are raped get punished for being raped) and all the other various acts of barbarism.

Frankly I am tired of the liberal, Islamic apologists who in every thread, claim that Islam is misunderstood, that it is the people of the west are the problem...who bring up acts of Christians centuries ago....but refuse to denounce any acts done by a Muslim. We are sick and tired of over-sensitive Muslims who get angry and riot / kill / destroy when someone says something they do not like. I for one wish we would leave the middle east and let the people of "The Religion of Peace" do whatever they want with each other, and leave the rest of us alone.

Originally posted by AceWombat04
I have visited mosques in the past as part of my ongoing attempt to learn more about our world's and society's different religions. I was always allowed in, greeted politely, and never saw anything untoward happening. I saw a lot of what I see in every religious institution: prayer, discussion, contemplation, fellowship, and pontificating.

You're a single individual. The world consists of 7 billion+ people (9 billion by 2050).

The Islamic world, too, consists of more than one mosque / Imam / Muslim / interpretation of the dogma.

Formulating one's opinion based only on one's own invariably limited experience is tantamount to declaring a god created the cosmos with nothing but some preachy patois prose to buttress the claim.

Originally posted by Sablicious

Originally posted by AceWombat04
I have visited mosques in the past as part of my ongoing attempt to learn more about our world's and society's different religions. I was always allowed in, greeted politely, and never saw anything untoward happening. I saw a lot of what I see in every religious institution: prayer, discussion, contemplation, fellowship, and pontificating.

You're a single individual. The world consists of 7 billion+ people (9 billion by 2050).

The Islamic world, too, consists of more than one mosque / Imam / Muslim / interpretation of the dogma.

Formulating one's opinion based only on one's own invariably limited experience is tantamount to declaring a god created the cosmos with nothing but some preachy patois prose to buttress the claim.

buttress words are distasteful , try him





'It really makes me think about becoming a Muslim'

'The call to prayer happens five times a day, and for the first week, it drives you crazy, and then it just gets into your spirit, and it's the most beautiful, beautiful thing,' he said.

'There are 4,000 mosques in the city. Some are just stunning, and it really makes me think about becoming a Muslim.'

Originally posted by VforVendettea
No I am not buying the propoganda, they were too obvious about it..
In fact it is having the opposite effect I am more sympathetic to them.

So... That's a resounding YES then. Or I'm failing to understand how

"No I'm not letting it affect me. In fact I'm letting it affect me completely but in an opposite way."

doesn't mean what it obviously means.

It's naive to think this is an orchestrated event. If anything has been orchestrated, it is to include this actual sentiment. That to now have an opinion one way or the other on Islam, is to have been affected by recent events.

Which gives everyone an easy hammer to beat people with. "Oh you sheeple, falling for it hook line and sinker.." they'll say.. "But I've been saying this for decades!" will be the reply.

But it's too late. The work has been done. The button has been created. And it's being pushed.

Personally, I won't say it's changed my mind at all. I've seen good Muslims stand up in Australia against the violence. I've also seen the insidious dirty side where it secrets itself under the rug and out of prying eyes. Again.

So it's all the same really. And it's the weekend... so we'll see what happens next.

The insurgent group Hezb-e-Islami carried out an attack Tuesday that killed 12 people, apparently in response to the American made anti-Islam film, “Innocence of Muslims”.
This film has been widely cited by the media as the cause of the massive outbreak of violence across the Muslim world.
But what is missing from the reports, at least in American media, is the growing amount of evidence that drone strikes in many of the places where anti-American riots are occurring is a major cause of terrorism as well.

Both Faisal Shahzad, the failed Times Square bomber, and Najibullah Zazi, who was convicted for a NYC subway bomb plot, said that the drone strikes in Pakistan were a cause of their terrorist activities.
The question arises then, why do the American media pick and choose the causes of terrorism? Shouldn’t the American people deserve to know about what is causing people to commit acts of terrorism against them?
It hints of corruption when an explanation of terrorism that reflects well on the American system, the fact that we allow free speech, is reported on extensively but any explanation that reflects poorly on American foreign policy, like the fact that hundreds of civilians have been killed recently in drone strikes across the Middle East, is ignored.

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Yep. Especially w/ the christian goofballs. I personally think our "ambassador" chris stevens got exactly what he deserved. The entered Libya illegally in 2011 as a stowaway on a cargo ship and assisted armed rebels in fomenting a civil war which killed 50,000 civilians. Six months after Ghadaffi is dead and almost a year after he's been racking up the corpses the US finally gets around to naming him our "ambassador".

Nice "diplomacy", huh? Why we expect that killing 50,000 innocent bystanders isn't going to piss anyone off is beyond me.

Originally posted by MidnightTide
What Propaganda? Yes, there have been the usual LETS KILL ALL THE MUSLIMS posts, but those types are the minority.....the only thing that is being said that there is a significant portion of the Muslim population (and I said significant, NOT THE MAJORITY) who seem to follow an extremist form of Islam. These current protests, and actions of many Muslims show the rest of the world an intolerance, that we should censor ourselves because Muslims are over-sensitive...perhaps we won't buy into the "Propaganda" when we actually see Muslims protest these acts of extremism, protest that thousands of women and girls who are murdered and raped every year (and heck, those who are raped get punished for being raped) and all the other various acts of barbarism.

Frankly I am tired of the liberal, Islamic apologists who in every thread, claim that Islam is misunderstood, that it is the people of the west are the problem...who bring up acts of Christians centuries ago....but refuse to denounce any acts done by a Muslim. We are sick and tired of over-sensitive Muslims who get angry and riot / kill / destroy when someone says something they do not like. I for one wish we would leave the middle east and let the people of "The Religion of Peace" do whatever they want with each other, and leave the rest of us alone.

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I personally think it has more to do with the 4-5 million Arab corpses we racked up with over 60 yrs of completely misguided foreign interventionism into countries which we don't even understand...but that's just me.

10:1 says that if a Brazilian made a movie or cartoon like that their embassies would be just fine.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by shuar911
This site is all about hating muslims and loving christians.

( I'm White muslim and i'm proud of it )

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LOL that's funny do a search on the anti Christian topics on this forum.

Yes...but have you ever heard an atheist call for the carpet-bombing of christian civilians?

Big difference.

Originally posted by detachedindividual

I have a feeling that the real reason you are so angry about this is because it exposes the extremism of your views, not that you feel they were taken out of context.

Agreed. When people realize just how nutty their views really are, they almost ALWAYS go double-down on them. It's like their embarrassed to admit that they learned something.