Republicans’ Ex-Spokesman Calls For Armed Rebellion Over Obamacare

reply to post by The Sword


Ahhh, I don't see it coming any time soon either. I'm still too comfortable, although what you said earlier is correct, we really are just looking for a spark to start this #storm. My wife called just a few minutes ago, and she wants to contact a reporter and relay all the lies and shady dealing going on with her employer, and she is willing to take whatever backlash may come. I think she might have been serious and not just venting. Our lives are perilous, and as much as we want to provide stability for our kids, it seems like anyone can yank the rug out at any time, so what's the point?

It really wouldn't take much of a spark to get this tinderbox going, and although I don't think it will happen today, I realize it very well could! It could happen at any moment. There are a lot of desperate people out there just looking for a scapegoat. Is that scapegoat going to be the SCOTUS? Obama? Romney? Or will it wait awhile and be the next guy? I don't know, but its coming one way or another.

WOW...Republicans are really just #ing nuts....armed rebellion over Obamacare? there are far worser things we should be rebelling about . not something thats going to help MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
The ruling that just came down from the Supreme does indeed mean that govt can force you to purchase a product of any kind and tax you if you don't.

What government did is something that should have been done long time ago, if not at the time when constitution was written. Government should worry about health of nation, and this is imho one way of insuring we are going in right direction.

The way you say it sounds like tyrant government will force us to have health insurance.

Do you people even hear your self what actually you are saying??

Wonder if it will make you feel better if decision gets repealed under Romney and millions of people loose health insurance...

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital

Thats ironic because in my country Australia we have an undemocratically unelected leader who has installed a carbon tax whom the majority of Australians fiercely oppose. Does that mean we should take up arms?

Yes, without a doubt, you should take up arms.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
There are a lot of desperate people out there just looking for a scapegoat. Is that scapegoat going to be the SCOTUS? Obama? Romney? Or will it wait awhile and be the next guy? I don't know, but its coming one way or another.

I think we both know who the scapegoat will be. As I read ATS and the hatred against Mexicans; there will be no distinction between illegals and latinos in general. Killem all and let God sortem out attitude.

It won't be a revolution but a race war against the perceived useless eaters.

You are correct in that "its coming one way or another" not an armed rebellion but a distorted witch hunt drawn along racial lines. At least that the conclusion I'm drawing from reading ATS and listening to Rush, Savage and conservative talk radio.

Originally posted by simon2k7
WOW...Republicans are really just #ing nuts....armed rebellion over Obamacare? there are far worser things we should be rebelling about . not something thats going to help MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!

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Yes, like the education system.

Seriously, anyone that thinks this is solely about the Obamacare just hasn't been paying any attention for the last 12 years. This is about the degradation of the Constitution, and the blatant ignoring of the primary tenets that founded this country. A single straw doesn't break a camel's back, unless it is that last straw.

Originally posted by Punisher75

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital

Thats ironic because in my country Australia we have an undemocratically unelected leader who has installed a carbon tax whom the majority of Australians fiercely oppose. Does that mean we should take up arms?

Yes, without a doubt, you should take up arms.

Same with Germany where everyone is paying extra for cars that are polluting more.

Wonder if western countries will provide the same support for western-world spring...

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


No we on the Left do not want complete government take over of everything, we aren't happy with Obamacare because it is Fascist. Your perception of Socialism is juvenile and paranoid and sold to you through fear mongering. The Right's twisted rhetoric of Socialism is just that. What we are dealing with now is not comparable to even the worst of Statist Communism. It has nothing to do with the State, it is government handing over power to Big Business, because Big Business can fund government better than we the people can. Or so government is being conned into believing.

True socialized medicine makes the most sense because a healthy population is a productive one, and we don't give any corporate board any legislative power in the process. It costs about the same as previous to Obamacare and now current to Obamacare without this forced funneling of our money into Corporate pockets.

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

I have very little, if any faith in the "free market" as well to fix all of our problems.

I don't see this "reset" coming any time soon as well.

Everyone peddles a grand solution (the tripe from Wilcock & Fulford, anything claiming to "restore" America, etc) but there is no true incentive to force implementation of such solutions.

Plenty of dreamers, very few actors.

Perhaps it's because we already have some socialist interference in the free market and therefore you will not be able to tell what is what. The waters are already muddied. But I guess you want to pour the Muddy Mississippi right into the Missouri to make things clearer.

I'll never understand Republican aversion to helping those in need.

I'll never understand Republican aversion to helping those in need.

Originally posted by simon2k7
I'll never understand Republican aversion to helping those in need.

Because there is none, we just want to do it by our own choice. If you haven't noticed, the vast majority of Republicans are also highly religious, and most religions have charities. Republicans contribute a lot of time and money to those charities, they just don't want the Federal Government mandating it.

I'll never understand the lefts aversion to big government?

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

No we on the Left do not want complete government take over of everything, we aren't happy with Obamacare because it is Fascist. Your perception of Socialism is juvenile and paranoid and sold to you through fear mongering. The Right's twisted rhetoric of Socialism is just that. What we are dealing with now is not comparable to even the worst of Statist Communism. It has nothing to do with the State, it is government handing over power to Big Business, because Big Business can fund government better than we the people can. Or so government is being conned into believing.

True socialized medicine makes the most sense because a healthy population is a productive one, and we don't give any corporate board any legislative power in the process. It costs about the same as previous to Obamacare and now current to Obamacare without this forced funneling of our money into Corporate pockets.

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Again you just don't GET it!!!!!! I have tried to explain that there is a process and I have even posted material from a true FORMER LEFTIST David Horowitz who knows. It is you who have taken in part truth and part lies set out as traps by devious persons and by socialists in the Democrat Party who are trying to fool the people. Those archdeceivers who are the liars and the serpents know what they are doing and they now they are lying when they say that all these problems are a product of Capitalism. That is the old lie of communists and Marxists who already know the pure stream has been muddied.

Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by simon2k7
I'll never understand Republican aversion to helping those in need.

Because there is none, we just want to do it by our own choice. If you haven't noticed, the vast majority of Republicans are also highly religious, and most religions have charities. Republicans contribute a lot of time and money to those charities, they just don't want the Federal Government mandating it.

I'll never understand the lefts aversion to big government?

So I have to be the same religion group to receive help, if I understand you correctly.

What about atheists?

So, that is how healthcare should have been solved - through charitable donations...

Sorry, I just see more churches build out of those, not many free healthcare providers...Do you know of any that works of charitable donations?

Originally posted by getreadyalready


Because there is none, we just want to do it by our own choice. If you haven't noticed, the vast majority of Republicans are also highly religious, and most religions have charities. Republicans contribute a lot of time and money to those charities, they just don't want the Federal Government mandating it.

I'll never understand the lefts aversion to big government?

So you would rather those small compassionate communities give up and forego their meagre salaries, even going into debt, to help one when he/she is sick with major illness , rather than for the entire american society to set aside a few dollars painlessly to help him/her out?

reply to post by getreadyalready


Actually the left WANTS big government.

And so do the republicans.

There is no real difference between the two.

And I call shenanigans on you. Republicans want big government just as much as the democrats do, they just want it based on religious principles.

The only reason they opposed Obamacare is because it had funding for things like abortion, which religious conservatives oppose for religious reasons.

If it weren't for those things, the Republicans would have supported it in an instant.

So, SHENANIGANS!

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101

Originally posted by getreadyalready


Because there is none, we just want to do it by our own choice. If you haven't noticed, the vast majority of Republicans are also highly religious, and most religions have charities. Republicans contribute a lot of time and money to those charities, they just don't want the Federal Government mandating it.

I'll never understand the lefts aversion to big government?

So you would rather those small compassionate communities give up and forego their meagre salaries, even going into debt, to help one when he/she is sick with major illness , rather than for the entire american society to set aside a few dollars painlessly to help him/her out?

No, I would rather they fix the healthcare system so a basic need does not cost 100s of 1000s of dollars. It is only broken due to the big Pharma, big corporations, big insurance, and frivolous lawsuits running it in the ground. Fix the system, don't break it even further. Mandating insurance only aggravates the problem even moreso!

For the record, I have had two occurrences where medical bills topped $1 M!! The first when I was 20 and blew myself up, and then last in 2007 when my child was born 3 months premature and needed surgeries and therapy.

We already have Social Security, Welfare, Medicare, and Medicaid, we don't need ANOTHER plan, we just need to fix the healthcare industry.

reply to post by SuperFrog

So I have to be the same religion group to receive help, if I understand you correctly.

Did I say that? Do you know anything about charities? Does United Way or Red Cross ask your religion before helping you? I don't know of a single church that asks someone their religion before deciding whether or not they will help. Of course, they do like to talk about God while they are helping, but it isn't a requirement.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Originally posted by simon2k7
I'll never understand Republican aversion to helping those in need.

Well they obviously are doing what Jesus Christ
would do, since most republicans are Christians.
Jesus would be like;
"Obama trying to help all Americans and not just billionaires again?!"
"Grab your guns Christians, we're saving EXXON first, then the Koch Bros!"

reply to post by getreadyalready

No, I would rather they fix the healthcare system so a basic need does not cost 100s of 1000s of dollars. It is only broken due to the big Pharma, big corporations, big insurance, and frivolous lawsuits running it in the ground. Fix the system, don't break it even further. Mandating insurance only aggravates the problem even moreso!

Yes, I agree with you but it is also because of what FDR and other socialistic people of the day did to the system long before this admin.