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Originally posted by getreadyalready
Originally posted by masqua
This November, I am taking the entire day of work and voting for BUDWEISER!
George Carlin once said "I like to stay home on election day and masterbate. I'm doing the same thing as you but in the end at least I have something to show for it"
What a gem.
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by JiggyPotamus
It baffles me too just how odd people can be.
Let's see:
- We're in the middle of 2 failed wars
- We're trying to start MORE wars by proxy (Syria, Libya, etc)
- We have a huge deficit
- ACTA/SOPA/PIPA..need I say more?
- USA Patriot Act
Of all the things people could start an armed rebellion over, it's HEALTHCARE that gets them upset?
Only in America I suppose.
Originally posted by SuperFrog
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by Cassius666
Originally posted by RealSpoke
I JUST WANT TO BE FREE
You pay taxes, so that shiny military can protect you, no? Same thing, except its your health that is being protected. And dont go on about my avatar pic plz.
Respectfully, I can see the requirement for the federal government to maintain a military in the Constitution but I cannot see the same enumerated power to provide healthcare or mandate healthcare for all in that document.
Really? Ever heard of preamble of USA constitution?
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Even if it was not part of it, which is not the case, why so many protest for affordable health care?
source*
Originally posted by N3kr0m4nc3r
It is not healthcare that riles us up, it is the fact that now that they have passed this it basically means that the government can require us to do "anything" or penalize us with a "tax". The government wants you to buy 50 shirt per year, do it or we will penalize you with a tax, you make enough money to buy a house but won't, do it or we will tax you. It is insane, when are Americans going to stand up against the government and tell them NO MORE, you are not our parents or our keepers, you will not tax us to death, you will not regulate our freedoms. If I want to sit my behind on a couch with a 64oz soda, a pizza and a cheesecake smoking a cigarette I will do it, I don't need the government to regulate what I will and won't do. Maybe he is right, maybe we should remember the Stamp Act, and the Tea Tax, is it really gonna take another Boston Massacre?
Originally posted by N3kr0m4nc3r
reply to post by SuperFrog
Being overly dramatic, I think not; I was simply stating that this ruling opens doors that I don't think people wanted open. as for affordable healthcare sure it may seem that way now but what will happen when those insurance agencies want to start recouping the cost they lose because they can no longer exclude pre-existing conditions?
Originally posted by N3kr0m4nc3r
reply to post by SuperFrog
Being overly dramatic, I think not; I was simply stating that this ruling opens doors that I don't think people wanted open. as for affordable healthcare sure it may seem that way now but what will happen when those insurance agencies want to start recouping the cost they lose because they can no longer exclude pre-existing conditions?
You really will compare affordable health care bill with tea tax?
Originally posted by AuranVector
As I’ve said before, Obamacare is NOT about healthcare. It’s about a massive expansion of Federal POWER. It will also suck dry what is left of the Middle Classes with high taxes. One step closer to turning the US into a Third World country.
The “High Cabal”, “the Secret Government”, “The Elites”, “TPTB” (whatever you want to call them) does not/do not give a rat’s *ss about healthcare for the masses.
Healthcare for the poor will not improve. However, it will ensure members of the current Middle Class will join the ranks of the poor.
Originally posted by SuperFrog
Originally posted by N3kr0m4nc3r
reply to post by SuperFrog
Being overly dramatic, I think not; I was simply stating that this ruling opens doors that I don't think people wanted open. as for affordable healthcare sure it may seem that way now but what will happen when those insurance agencies want to start recouping the cost they lose because they can no longer exclude pre-existing conditions?
So you are believer that people with pre-existing conditions should have unfair rate because of those conditions??
So in your opinion, supreme court should not be able to decide something like this? Why do we have supreme court?
It is interesting that over 60% of USA population* support idea that healthcare should be mandatory, only around 15% does not have insurance. Current republican outrage is just a political game to gain votes, even after plan was originally introduced by republican. Strange... don't you think?
As we are rare one of the rare if not the only developed nation in the world that does not guarantee health coverage, we might belong into third class countries.
Originally posted by SuperFrog
Originally posted by N3kr0m4nc3r
reply to post by SuperFrog
Being overly dramatic, I think not; I was simply stating that this ruling opens doors that I don't think people wanted open. as for affordable healthcare sure it may seem that way now but what will happen when those insurance agencies want to start recouping the cost they lose because they can no longer exclude pre-existing conditions?
So you are believer that people with pre-existing conditions should have unfair rate because of those conditions??
So in your opinion, supreme court should not be able to decide something like this? Why do we have supreme court?
It is interesting that over 60% of USA population* support idea that healthcare should be mandatory, only around 15% does not have insurance. Current republican outrage is just a political game to gain votes, even after plan was originally introduced by republican. Strange... don't you think?