There Are LOADS Of Jobs Out There, But People Don't Want To Work!

Point and case and after this post I will stop... I don't regret pissing off other Americans, with my other posts because we Americans can do anything we want....

When Americans let excuses determine how they live their lives, they forget.... That they are Americans....



We are special folk... We are Americans damn it....


We made atom bombs.. Stealth bombers, and countless other things like the internet. etc. etc..

When we make excuses about not finding something to work on...

That is not American.....

Originally posted by charlyv

Originally posted by Obl1vion
people just lack the innovation... Period in America....


I see it all. around me...

Americans think they are entitled...


To eat and get fat... And be taken care of all their lives...

If work required labor, or something that makes them get up early its over...

This was the case even during the great BOOMing economy...!!!!!!!!!!!

There are so many followers in America its funny...

That is 100% BS , America is not lazy. Most of us are bewildered by what corporate America has done to our job structure. You could be a plumber, electrician, office assistant, welder, professional engineer, aircraft mechaneic, metal worker, biologist, nuclear scientist....the list goes on, but the foundation that creates and nurtures a productive, dedicated and loyal worker has completely evaporated over the last 20 years.

Corporate America has sacrificed us for the almighty buck, and has found that outsourcing our jobs overseas as well as importing goods cheaper than we can manufacture them ( with the help of the US Government that will not adjust the value as a tariff on those imports) have left us out to dry. This single set of facts are the problems with the US economy today and has left most of our loyal workforce dumbfounded.

There are jobs out there, but they have been 'adjusted' to give the worker hardly any benefits, opportunity for advancement given proven proficiency, and job security. The unions today now lowball anyone coming on board to the point that there is not enough self-esteem left in a productive workforce that is really proud of what they produce, and that, good people, was the foundation that made this country one of the most productive and envied nation on this planet in the 50's thru 70's

Wall street, the FED, The Fortune 500 and the last 3 presidencies have sold out America to the point where we stand today. Want to change it?

seriously stop making excuses....

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by Kryties
There you go again, assuming everyone has the same life and opportunities as you.

Pray tell, how did you learn programming and networking? Did you pay to learn it by any chance?

I bought a book on web design and web programming
I believe in total it must have costed me maybe 90$ in total
Originally posted by Kryties


During this time I had no IT degree or certifications

That isnt possible everywhere. In Germany for example its "Ihre Papiere Bitte". But to be fair, getting a certificate is at least from the financial point of view far easier in Germany.

Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
The OP's attitude pretty much gives you the picture of what's wrong with the U.S.

Instead of recognizing that people do actually run into bad stretches and that not everybody may be as lucky as they are, people immediately jump to throwing accusations of laziness and stupidity.

Hence, there will be no employment problem until this person has a problem.

Actually I believe the problem other than a job shortage is people just want too much "stuff" trinkets, toys, and gadgets.
These can cost just as much as your house alone.
Therefore you must make more money to buy the happy gadgets.

reply to post by HamrHeed


AGREED!!!
Now that you have your whirlwind idea, if it is IT the cheapest work will come from India, labor will be China.
So, now where are we again?

OP's comments have zero validity, along with those of the usual right wing spewers of vile bile.

He proposes that "There Are LOADS Of Jobs Out There, But People Don't Want To Work!". Let us examine this proposition and see if it is consistent with reality.

There is only one thing you need to know to realize that the OP is nonsense... in 2007, the unemployment rate was half what it is now.... 5% of americans did not suddenly become lazy over the course of a two years, and then slowly begin returning to work, because they became less lazy. That is nonsense.

Unemployment cannot be explained by personal vice or laziness. If it were, then why is it the case that unemployment in all 50 states of the US follows the same basic pattern?link to google data.

Do you seriously propose that suddenly, after becoming slowly less lazy since mid 2003, suddenly, in the middle of 2007, americans in every single state became lazier than they had for decades? And then slowly they decided to go back to work?

Comments like the original post are a dime a dozen, and worth every penny.

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


You're making the mistake of thinking that everyone who works doesn't have additional forms of income, from say properties and other types of investments. Trying to generalize workers from owners is like trying separate green from grass (especially for people who work on commission). Furthermore, an idea doesn't need to be disruptive to be a money maker. In fact we make more money from patents (which are highly specialized) than we typically do writing custom software solutions for small businesses. You don't have to risk the barn to sell eggs.

I went through apprenticeship, for a few years myself. That was making 50 bucks a day, while learning a lot. I did that, I worked my way up to partner. Then the construction bubble burst, and took us down with it. Didn't seem to matter, that I had learned highly specialized skills. When it comes to hardwood floors, I have done it all, from herringbone, to inlays, to custom borders, to anything you can think of. When the bubble burst and left us out of work, we lost our major investment, a house that was around 3/4 paid for, plus renovated like crazy. Had we have started 3 years earlier, we would have made out like bandits. The boss would have had his retirement money, and I would have had 200 grand to go to school and start a business.

You think it is so easy to just start over. It isn't. I worked my way from bottom, to the top, only to have the rug pulled out from under me. How about you pull out your crystal ball, and tell me where I should start now? Can you tell me what field, that I can work my way up to the top again, that will last? At this point, I have mastered hardwood floors, tiling, framing and roofing. Not a single one, or all put together keeps me in regular work. So tell me oh wise one, what is the magic answer?

Also people like to blame too much stuff people want. Tell you what.... I have lived for years off one meal a day. I literally feal sick when eating more, I have tried. Eating more than supper makes me feel sick. I have tried and tried to correct this, but so far have failed. I went from the normal three meals a day to start, to where I am now.

reply to post by ZeroSumWinner


I've made no such mistake, and I replied to an employees question of entrepreneurship and narrow observation of risk asking; "where is the money in that?" That question is indicative of an employee, not a producer.

You're the one who is desperately bringing "workers and owners" into this. I am talking about producers. There are plenty of "owners" who operate businesses, some of them even Fortune 500 companies, but this does not make them producers. Not by a long shot.

Entrepreneurs - producers - do not "risk the barn to sell eggs", they risk the barn so they don't have to spend a lifetime selling eggs. Employees have a hard time understanding this, regardless of how well they are paid and how much property they own.

Originally posted by Openeye
reply to post by bg_socalif

 

You know I haven't really looked into that, mostly because I don't speak any other language.

A few people I know are working in China right now, said it was actually really easy to get a job there. But they know the language, I have started studying Chinese, and Japanese, but I do not take to other languages very well.

I hate my brain sometimes

I could definitely see where that would be a hinderance. However, there are a whole slew of govt contractor jobs all over the place where a foreign language isn't required. I know alot of younger guys who do it just to establish a security clearance, use the company's tuition assistance for more Certs, etc. just to get their foot in the door for bigger and better things.

I did my time in the Caribbean and Middle East...no language requirements aside from English

reply to post by ZeroSumWinner


I would add, that everyone who has a valuable skill to sell is an entrepreneur. Every job I have had since becoming a skilled worker, has been because they were looking for me, for my services, and for what I could do for them. They wanted my skills, not the other way around, and over the last several years, they contacted me, their response to my internet advertisement of my skills, to ask me to work for them.

Just because I work for a company doesn't mean I am not an entrepreneur. I sell my skills to the highest bidder.
No body ever gave me a job.

reply to post by Obl1vion


From your other posts, I thought you were just another idiot, but I like this post.

The U.S. is an economy in transition.

The next step is to get rid of the corporations, entities created by the industrial revolution who have outlived their time.

Corporations are our biggest economic problem.

I would not suggest arguing with those that specialize or are professional protesters in this country...

Don't bother....

Most people unemployed thou fit this category... PERIOD.. PROFESSIONAL IDIOTS.. Feel free to argue, and make me look stupid..

You just make the country you live in even worse idiots....

The category is this... LAZY... Yes LAZY... Lack the skill.... Or in the wrong place at the wrong time....


Its not because your black yellow, brown or gold... Not because your a felon, or drop out or a college grad.... Unless your illiterate and cannot read, their is absolutely no reason you should not have a job....

Yet if you like excuses for not having a job... Then pick one of those lazy excuses from above you idiot......









Period//

reply to post by poet1b


That is certainly correct! Working for a company does not necessarily compel you take on employee attitude. The smart skilled entrepreneur negotiates individually for the best deal they can get. No collective bargaining for them, simply two people negotiating a contract.

I have had clients who insisted on treating me as an employee. When the job is done, I am done with them...unless - and a few of come around to my way of thinking - they understand that the contract we've made was for an even exchange, nothing more, nothing less.

reply to post by Obl1vion


What? Most people that are trying to stay where they are and survive, are doing it for a good reason. You know, because they have a boatload invested in the home they live in through mortgage. Like trying not to rip their kids from the place they grew up, and move them to wherever.

Maybe you have zero problem moving all over the country, but I would guess that you are single, and not a parent, or that your family probably hates you.

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


What have you got against collective bargaining?

reply to post by ModernAcademia


I don't know what you do for a living but everyone I know works every day they are able . Your new job as a shill for the NWO won't last long either . I am a Plumber and I worked through an apprenticeship and up till I retired 3 months ago . It was feast and famine . Yes there are jobs out there for about 1/2 of what you made when you were laid off .Then there are the Mexicans that is tearing down condition s for everyone . The Globalist that moved our manufacturing to the Middle East are trying to bring down the standard of living for all of America so that we as they say can be competitive with the Chinese . I DON'T WANT TO LIVE LIKE THE CHINESE . Also the computer programmers, doctors , bankers and everyone else except the CEO's are getting cuts .
Those working for or with the NWO are destroying the United States and are Treasonous and should be prosecuted for such.

Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

 

What have you got against collective bargaining?

Collective bargaining demands, as part of the bargain, that individuals cannot negotiate their own contract on their own terms. What do labor unions have against individual bargaining?

reply to post by LastProphet527

Why isn’t this thread in the joke section?

Because RNC and Fox News disinformation talking points are taken seriously in some venues where reality doesn't matter.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


So let me get this straight, you think that 800 million people are choosing to be out of work?