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one4all
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For the record tough love can only be actioned if the love is in place FIRST.
This means that the close and trusted and loyal relationships must be built FIRST,before the tough parts are integrated into the equation.
Kicking the door down and coming on like an Olde School Christian with brimstone and hades-fire will never work even if the intentions are honorable and honest.
I am not the man behind the wheel here and as a fan am forced to accept where the team is going,however i do not have to remain silent and not aknowledge the things that are becoming obvious to me.
Nuge has been to worried about defense to fully grow his NHL level offense and years are slipping by already,this is an atrocity for gods sakes.
I want to see Eberle replaced with a bigger winger who has an equal talent upside,and I want to see Hall become a true beast and release himself from the pressure cooker he is living in,I want to see him begin to hit opponents when they are vulnerable and to establish himself as a physical threat that will give Nuge some room out there to work his offense.RNH needs two wingers who can get to where he needs them to be,who can get to those open holes and positions that Nuge needs to feed the puck to them in.W.G said that corners are for Bustops that is the bottom line here as well.I do not want to see Nuge fighting in the corners any more as he has been doing,i dont want his skill and talent level to be overshadowed by his linemates,everyone learns differently and Nuges natural growth has already been hindered,it must stop now,and the only way it will stop is to lose the coaching and System requirements which put him in those corners.The only way to get Nuge some room in those corners is to have men in place to finish his passes every time,he is the catalyst here not taylor,but taylor has been lugging the ball instead.
Time to wake up Darryl,even if you trust your managers pal.You will NEVER make a defensive team out of your roster,and no one in their right minds would give up any of this core of players,and this means you picked the wrong coach with the wrong methods,Dallas is not wrong he is smart and capable ,your DECISION was wrong,it was hopefull and well intended but not realistic.You chose defense and Dallas brings it,he doesnt take the bullet here.
When you traded MPS you made error number one,Perron has been more than I expected,however it doesnt change the fact that you gave up the size and skill you are now looking for.and really perrons scoring success has been at Nails expense and this alone has hindered his growth and evolution,Nail would have scored as many goals as Perron had he been given the focal attention to do so by the coach and a suitable system,toss in a defensively obbsessed coach and a pre-determined agenda of BREAKING the spirits of the young bucks and you might as well write the entire re-build off.
all 3 of our 1st rounders are growing at different speeds and as the last few years have gone by NO ONE has properly maintained the correct levels and degrees of support for them,not one has been handled properly.
They are all offensive players and they all needed to enter the NHL using their strengths to float until they got their feet under them,this sudden turn to a punative environment with an insane defensive BS mantra has ensured that NONE OF THEM CAN EVOLVE PROPERLY.
When you say BACKCHECK instead of DEFENSE you make an accurate valuation of an offense first System impact.
When you say DEFENSE first and backcheck second you are blowing wind and that is all you are doing.
Offense MUST ALWAYS COME FIRST AND ANY 5 YEAR OLD ON SKATES KNOWS THAT.
Properly managed offense is defensively air-tight,improperly managed offense is like a seive and we have already seen what that looks like.
A good and consistant defense simply means you get knocked out on your own terms and that is a very very selfish way to look at competition.
Even saying that defense first is the way to win is backwards and regressive,and on that note any IDIOT knows that you need to manufacture an airtight defense to win,but that DOES NOT MEAN that your primary focus must be on defense,it means that you must manufacture that air-tight defensive IMPACT during the games.There is more than one way to generate that defensive impact at an elite level and I could show you lots of gametapes from last season where this same team projected an ominously effective air-tight defensive impact while at the same time drove starting goalies out of the net using overwhelming offense as you were fed last night man,wake up already.
I literally believe that there is a massive communication impediment that exists here between the coaches and the players,not A SINGLE COACH--ALL OF THEM.
If everyone cannot even get on the same page about defining things like defense and offense and their position on the priority list then all is lost.
Anyone watching gametapes from last season and comparing them to this season with Nail Yakupov as the focal point would be aghast at the mismanagment of this single man,it has been a freaking tradgedy.
I dont care what jealous commentators who have historical hatred for the Oilers like Stock does have to say,and I dont care what Dallas has to say,and not what Hendi has to say or what Andrew has to say,I HAVE SEEN THE MEN WE HAVE BEING OPTIMISED AND MANAGED PROPERLY ON THE ICE AND I KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO.
The newly recruited men I just mentioned do not know this and obviously have not done any homework to find out how and where they will fit into the picture here,they are only relying on what Dallas wants done as their guide,fine its their perogative.
If all of these men think that the locker room was a mess and there was no stability and leadership then they are severely deluded,absolutely deluded,the fact is that dallas came in gangbusters to reshape and to deconstruct everything about this team and he made a mistake in taking the path he has taken,it is that simple.I am sure managment asked Dallas to do this,I am sure they themselves did not give Dallas the full story,they gave him an excusatory story that layed all of the blame for the last few years on the players in TOTALITY.
Upper managment gave Dallas permission to do the things he is doing,in fact at this point after nearly a full season I am beginning to doubt that these are even Dallases natural tendancies.
There are some very serious survivors working in high managerial places for this team and they need to be either adjusted and counselled or cleaned out.A lot of dirty under the table crap has been done here for a very very long time now.maybe in the past these tactics were successfull but not today.
Anyone who can look another man in the eye and deny the reality of what the NHS is historiclly and where it was started and that it was specificlly designed for the Oilers,and deny its impacts then he is not a man,he is a liar.
If your loyaltys to your employer prohibit you from telling the truth as a man then you need to reasses where you are in life,because you are defining yourself through these moments.
Envy is a dangerous thing to embrace.And someone within the managerial group envies the NHS and what is has done and continues to do.
Everyone meets their match sooner or later and unfortunately this group met their s over 3 years ago,they took a solid and committed and loyal ally in Moma2 and the NHS and in a vain and excusatory and defensive series of actions intentionally forced a dynamic that attempted to turn that influence into an enemy,is was so childish and misdirected that it will go down as the biggest single mistake in the history of the organisation.
If there is a point of no return we must be very very close to it right now.
There have not been any cognisant or rational answers provided by managment for many years now,nearly everything has changed but no headway has been made,this points to a historical causality of the disconnect.This means managment,period.
You really want the bottom line,because Katz needs to get this clearly,----
Kevin Lowe is never going to break up a two on one in the Stanley Cup Playoffs or facewash an opponent.
Craig macTavish is never killing off a penalty in double overtime in game seven of the finals.
Steve Smith is never going to smash men away from the front of the net again.
Bucky is never going to skate his heart out and bleed for the team to will them through tough times again.
Dallas Eakins is never going to fill holes to support the team through a Cup run.
These men CAN NOT HELP THIS TEAM WIN GAMES through sheer will-power or good intentions.
None of them deserve the degrees of power and influence they currently weild.They simply arent valuable enough links in the chain that will pull this team out of the rut it is in,they CANNOT WIN GAMES,the PLAYERS are the only ones who can do that and they need to be catered to and supported in any and every way possible to help them do the things they CAN DO.
Battles with coaches and managment are signs of inner cancer and inner rot.
It isnt the players who are rotting,it is managment.They just cannot git er done on their own and they dont have the hockey acumen and communication skills to help the roster discover its own identity and forge its own legacy,they can only try to mold the men into clones of themselves.
These managerial men are all professionals of the highest caliber,but none of them were the core blocks that built their respective teams ,they have been tasked with things they are not equipped to accomplish.Running a team and BUILDING a team are totally different things,obviously right?
Five men sitting at a round table none of whom posses the required skillset to build a team from the ground up simply CAN NOT will themselves to get the job done,their learning curve will be incredibly long and hard.They will not evolve fast enough to keep up with the players growth and contract situations.Hence the only way to compensate for their group shortcomings is to manipulate the players and their contracts to buy themselves time.
If someone could straighten things out for this managerial group they would rock it man,they are an awsome team if they arent asked to do more than they can actually accomplish as individuals and as a group.
Simply put the long term plan has floundered at exactly the worst possible moment in time.
It is to late to go back now and everyone involved knows this,so the obvious option is a curative action,but what could that possible be when you already have five Kings of the World all sitting there smacking their melons together at the Round table?They must have all the answers right?
You see,they are being tasked with actions they cannot even execute as a group,something critical is missing.
There is nothing wrong with ANY of the people in the organisation as a whole,none of them,they are all professionals capable of executing their specific duties,but no more,if they are stretched we lose continuity and power,and this is what has been happening.
These men are all being asked to step out of their comfort zones professionally and take on a task none of them were ever taught to master,they are NOT TEAM BUILDERS,they are TEAMMATES.
I am fully aware that none of them individually will fully understand exactly what I am saying,however the fact is that many of the men on the roster DO IN FACT UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS and it is BECAUSE they are green enough to have not been brainwashed into specific roles yet,they have open minds and are willing to accept anything that is results based,they have nothing to protect or make excuses for.They want to win,they know how to win,and they know what helps them win.
I can easily bring the roster onto one page in no time just by offering them things they can take or leave of their own free will,things they have the power to embrace or reject,things that have an immediate positive impact for them on the ice and help them win games,but there is no way I can do that with the managment group unless I have absolute power over them and they are forced to listen and participate and to surrender their perspectives upon my demands so they can all keep up to me.The Kids can keep up,but the stubborn old dogs cannot,and they fight like mad to slow the train down when they feel they are losing a step which happens frequently.
Managment takes things to personally to learn effectively.They cannot check their job titles and egos at the door when it is asked of them,and really Darryl Katz you are the only man who can ask them all to become students of their own game again so man up and step forward and give them a chance to re-set before this ship really does sink on you all.
Your men are listening anyways,they are actioning things anyways,so why not invest some time and energy into finding a way to reunite your managers with Moma2s NewAge Hockey System ,MAKE THEM SURRENDER,you have the power,it is plain to see that they cannot overcome the myriad of things preventing them from voluntarilly becoming students again.
One must surrender themselves to become stronger,surrender to the pain of ripping and tearing muscles via hard work to maximise physical growth,surrender to the breaking down of old established and traditional perspectives via hard and intense results based scrutiny to ensure progressive consistant evolution.
If each member of the Managment team AND each member of the Roster,AND each member of the peripheral sphere of influence from the janitor to the accountant to the Bus driver fills out an anonymous form that gives them a solid outline upon which they can list the good AND the bad things they see happening around them and within the organisation and if this is specificlly projected with intentions of getting complete honesty,if the critical importance of complete and openminded honesty are stressed and if Anonymity is guaranteed,then you will have without a doubt ALL of the data you need to take full and complete curative actions.The single CODICILE must be that organisationally NO ONE EXCEPT KATZ ever gets to review the results with the Consultant representing the NHS.An owner guaranteed 100% assurance of absolute anonymity is the crux of solving these challenges immediatly.NO MAN WILL BE STABBED IN THE BACK----WE NEED HONESTY .
I do not believe that any significant changes need to be made ,I believe it is time to remove the hammer from over everyones heads in one full swooping action , we dont want to lose a single man we have invested resources into,the decisions have all been well supported,but there is a dire need for a single all-encompassing valuation of the dynamic superstructure and its abilitys and performance envelope capabilitys.
There is a way to solve this challenge where no man has to REMOVE his focus,but where every man must ADD the same strengths to his focus at the same time.
This superstructure does not have to be imploded,not at all.
If you asked me to remove one single man from the organisation I could not give you a valid and supported valuation to support that action,because I believe that all the right pieces are already there just not in the right spots yet.
If these men are all optimised and properly utilised then all can stay,but the way things have been managed and continue to evolve some of these men will have to be sacrificed to support the screwed up status quo sooner or later,and when that happens the entire organisation becomes weaker,every time you need to re-train and re-indoctrinate a new asset you take a small step backwards and you must pray that that asset can produce enough of an above average impact when it is in place to catch you back up again or the organisation suffers a setback or a growing pain if you will.So the more changes you make the more small stutter-steps you take backwards and the more pressure there is on multiple assets to produce concurrent above average results long enough to get things caught up from a results based organisational standpoint the greater the danger of major steps back.
Obviously the likelyhood is not high for any single asset to actually produce above average results long enough to balance out the organisational shock or cost of integrating them ,one in ten might fully recoup the energy the organisation loses in this process,and the rest will require varying degrees of blood from the superstructure and will all to some degree slow things down overall.hence the unstoppable backwards slide.
This is why people ask EXACTLY HOW can this oilers team be regressing? How can the re-build look like it needs to be re-re-built?
I just explained to you how AND why this IS IN FACT HAPPENING.I can give you an accurate timeline for when things will balance out as well,or rather the obvious facts can do this,but it will be a depressing scenario because you will find that the core will not be here to see it happen,no way not at this rate of recovery.At the current rate under the current circumstances we will need to see at least two of our 1st round picks traded and also see at least two or three of our best farmhands like Nurse and Klefbom traded away,and all this will do is barely make us a playoff team,not a threatening one just a competative one.
The entire roster will need to be restructured into a defensive setup as is already slowly happening dynamiclly with journeymen supporting the bottom six and older experienced forwards making up the top six,this means a short term run at best,not a Dynasty type of multi-year championship opportunity,it means another very very immediate re-tool or rebuild after two or three years.
Once you get to the middle of the NHL pack with this short term defensive based mess the high draft picks dry up and the cupboard goes bare quickly.
If the Oilers twitter away this core group of #1 picks the City will likely NEVER see this type of opportunity again.
Not to be disrespectfull but what kind of idiot would have a number of ULTRA-HIGH assets like this and not see the need to bring in more qualified support that matches the offensive value level of the core?????
Who would even consider trying to do what is being done to this team,from the inside??
Taylor Hall?Ryan Nugent-Hopkins?Nail Yakupov?Justin Schultz?Sam Gagner?David Perron?
Any fool can see that this group is outstanding and capable of becoming the base of a long-term Dynasty level group.And any fool can tell you that they arent going to do it by underutilising their cumulative skillsets.Defense doesnt even enter the equation and this is the core issue here,there is not enough qualified offensive teaching and coaching support available to this core and that will implode this group eventually,sooner than later.
You cannot replace ALL of the management people who are not suitable without ripping it all apart,so you need to TEACH them how to change their colors as a group,they all need to either relearn some basics or move on somewhere else.You cannot bring in Wayne gretzky to this superstructure and believe he could add enough to turn this around,no way no how.Mess wont do it either.
However if you can ADD something impactfull to all the assets in place and THEN ADD a Wayne gretzky after the road has been paved then incredible things could happen immediatly.
Either the majority of the managerial assets OR players must leave town,or EVERYONE MUST LEARN A NEW WAY OF MANAGING THEMSELVES TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.
No one seems to have a curative action to ADD in this situation,they reject the NHS which could accomplish it ,and in the process remove the option totally from the table because there is nothing else on the planet that can provide the NHSs impacts.So you see someone in the organisation WANTS this team to implode,this is being done from the inside,someone is refusing to take their BadMedicine.So who is safe if the managment team implodes or if the roster implodes?There is no other possible source of this disconnect.So we have found ourselves at either Darryl katz or Kevin Lowe or both together in union.
If you dont have the ability to visualise this core becoming a Championship team through the use of their natural cumulative strengths then how you can properly optimise them?How can you even have a chance?
You need a builder with vision and new ideas to carry this group forward,but you refuse to relinquish any degree of control or credit to anyone,you are being overprotective of your glory as a group and are to one track minded as a group.
I would melt down your managerial group in an hour flat,to the point of men wanting to leave the room,but in the next hour i would have them all on one page and chomping at the bit to hear and learn more.
If i cannot enrage all of them at once then I cannot possibly teach them all something at once,but you see I see and understand the common thread of brotherhood here and know just how to rip its heart out and replace that failing unit with a NewAge and superior one.It is this managerial group that needs to be broken like a green Mustang,NOT the players,and there isnt a power on the planet outside of the NHS that can single-handedly and immediatly do this job.
You could not replace this managerial group today,there are not enough quality assets available on the market to adequately replace this group,if I had to assemble a group of NHL minds one-for-one to challenge and overcome this groups strength and acumen I would have a very very hard time getting the job done,HOWEVER I happen to have a System and a Philosophy which can accomplish these tasks in record time,there is a cure available and it is called the NHS.
Just look what the Flames did by simply using a TSP,they destroyed the Oilers,didnt just beat them down,they dismantled the system completely.
The flames didnt out-coach the Oilers or outplay them,they out thought them,they kept throwing the same punch that the Oilers refuse to even aknowledge exists.If you dont understand the NHS Tactical Shooting program and its impacts and cannot neutralise this impact using your system you are doomed in todays NHL,it is that simple,things change boys and sometimes they change faster than we like huh?
You behave as if there is never going to be anything new brought into the game of hockey that you all wont understand and already know,what an incredible level of vanity and ignorance.
You want to know why the Oilers are falling so fast and hard?Managerial stubbornness,ignorance,and vanity.Not a lack of ability at all,that is surely there,but if these intangibles cannot be properly managed then the ability is peed away now isnt it?And to think that the players have been hung out to dry to support these managerial weaknesses and managerial refusal to learn and evolve with the rest of the NHL.They want to fight change and challenges NOT learn,and they are not able to win the fights they get into anymore,it is a sad sad situation man.They were fighters as players and are fighters as managers,but as players this quality served them well but as managers all it does is seriously impede their ability and willingness to learn anything new or progressive,and to surrender enough control dynamiclly to get the help they ALL need as a group.
Is the Oilers glass on its way to being completely empty, or completely full?I say it is on its way to being completely full,but how is it possible to put the men running the show on that page with full belief and conviction?Simple,give them to me in a room for an afternoon,make me untouchable and powerfull Katz and after an hour i will relinquish that power completely because i will no longer need it,I just need your managerial team to sit down and listen long enough for me to stir them up and get the data we all need,once they are on the same page with me,they will become the glue that binds and will want more not less,there will be no need to control THEM you will need to keep me in the room FOR THEM AT THEIR REQUEST.
I dont think these men have ever been on the same full page together,or have ever seen anyone solve problems at an elite pace using them as the catalyst of change,bringing no new dynamics into play,just re-setting them.They have never really functioned as a fluid and optimal team,and once they taste that and feel the power they will love it.
I can literally use them to bring each other onto the same page,I have NO HOCKEY ACUMEN OR EXPERIENCE,I am an Intuit and an elite communicator,and that is what they need .
These men together hold the answers the team needs,but they need the right man to bring those answers out onto the table where as a group they can validate and endorse and implement them.