We need a one world government, whether you like it or not.

Originally posted by donkey77
think about it people to get off this planet we all have to unite as one

But we are already doing that. Its name is trade.

Originally posted by donkey77
think about it people to get off this planet we all have to unite as one

Yes we have to unite with the AI/Machine, not in a sexual way be we will have to carry one with us at all time , this will keep everyone honest.

I use to think they would be bigger, but you know those droid things they are going to get smaller and smarter with projectors, lasers, many video cameras, and us voice command. Hologram projectors, the cube lke keyboard system.

All connected, to giant integrated main frame that floats.

The poor think as you do, the wealthy like things as they are and the ones on the middle are just trying to survive (me) to give your idea a thought. Sorry my friend we are not the ones who will change things on this planet. That's for sure.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23

No God Complex here,, I know I am a part of the divine,, aren't you??

I doubt you even understand it, sorry but you were caught BELIEVING you are more evolved than I or others simply because we differed in opinions.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23

Praying for your mind to evolve more is not a bad thing,, it would be good for you and the world you inhabit. I pray that I too evolve more so there was nothing said that I don't believe for myself.

Don't try to backtrack now... you actually believe you are more evolved spiritually than I, or some other posters. It is clear as day when reading your responses.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23

Large numbers of Ignorant minds does not a Good Philosophy make.

and so a sociopath would claim...

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
As far as therapy,,, I am Open to Group Therapy,,,, would you join us since you are so above the common masses,,, maybe you can Enlighten us to the Proper way of Thinking.

me more evolved?... please show me WHERE I say, or imply I am more evolved than you, or anyone else.... It has been you the one implying such a thing... Do not try to project your psychotic condition on me, or other members...

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
Get a grip,,, you again like your Troll friends of Like mind are the ones in need of mental help.
A mind is like a book,,, only good when it is Opened.

wow, that is hilarious...you telling me to get a grip...

BTW, when a mind is wide open all sorts of garbage enters that mind which is why you think as you do.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
I am,,, as I stated earlier and many times,,, Open for discussion,,, but you and others only want to destroy any hope of true dialog.
Prove me wrong,, I would recant.

You are open for discussion?... Not really, you just want people to accept YOUR view of the New World SOCIALIST Order, and YOUR view of spirituality... you claim to want discussion, yet all you want is for people to accept you as their "master/sensei"...

This is a very complex topic for which a 5,000 page book can probably be written about. I can understand why it may eventually be necessary to unite the human species under everything imaginable, BUT the people who have led humanity on this planet up till now have a less than impressive track record of lying, being selfish and putting profit above charity.

There are so many conspiracy theories circulating about the NWO I honestly don't know where to start. It seems like an excercise in futility listing the pros and cons of a one world government. Humans are not perfect, neither where they designed to be perfect by their creator.

If we had definitive goals based on truth and human expansion into the cosmos as a primary goal then yes i would be aboard. Yes capitalism for the elite is killing the planet and wages/salaries are heavily biased in favor of knowledge. A college graduate in some fields and with a little luck can make 20 times what a high school graduate can make. A corporate executive can make 100 times what a high school graduate will. Success is overly rewarded imo and psychological foul play(pressure) is rampant.

I am not even sure the planet can handle 8 billion humans all needing to be fed, boarded and employed. The catholic church with its strict code of misinformation is leading the effort of overpopulation along with a tax code(at least in america) of rewarding those with more dependants. Those with more dependants should be punished, not rewarded. Birth control education is severly lacking in many countries as are the funds to seek guidance. Cures for diseases seem to be withheld and the gerogia guidestones say 660 million humans is a wise number of people residing on earth. You see one source contradicts the other while everything and anything important gets discussed behind closed doors.

I avoid being definitive in many things I say for a reason. I don't know WHO controls the world and what his/her MOTIVES are. I can ONLY SPECULATE based on AVAILABLE INFORMATION which can prove to be inaccurate or accuracies which evolve themselves.

PrisonerOnAShipOfFools,,, my hat is off to you. Love how you stated your point via the Hale Bop comet comments.
Irony they don't see what you and I see, yet claim such defense of Freedom and Freedom of thought.
One sided to the point of being scary.

And For ALL the Trolls and Haters attacking this line of thought,,, while acting as protectors of the Grand Idea,,

The Founding Fathers of America DID MEAN THE IDEAS OF OUR CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS FOR ALL OF HUMANITY

If this one world government were completely transparent and accountable for their actions, and there were no money to be gained in the politics of the planet, then this idea might work. But the fact is government is run by criminals, we need to get the money out of politics so that these criminals cannot exist in that envrionment.

If you couldn't get rich in politics, then the only incentive to be a politician would be in your passion to help your fellow human being. Not your next pay check. Do that, and the rest will follow.

Also, national pride is pathetic. It really is the silliest thing we kill and die for on this planet, besides religion. Anyone proud of their particular land mass and governing body is a god damned fool. There is nothing honourable in being proud of your country, you had no influence on being born into your country and your country is still land of the earth and no matter what band of idiots control it, it's no better or worse than any other nation on the planet. There are no immigrants, there are no foreigners, there are no "them" and "us" we're all earthlings and it's time we start acting like it. Naive, maybe, but eternally true nonetheless.

A world government could potentially work to fix the planet and bring peace and prosperity to the human race, but it also has the potential to snuff it out. The idea that the "right" people would instigate it is pretty far fetched, because the only people with the power to create a one world government is the current power structure of the world... which is corrupt right out its asshole and evil beyond sober comprehension

Originally posted by coyotepoet
this has always been an interesting concept to me, because I too, for the most part, feel that the eradication of national borders is the next step in realizing that all is one and we are all responsible for each other. On the other hand, there is the NWO vision of that which is for the few and not the many. I believe there is potential for great light and great darkness from such a system.

Yep that's how I feel that it could be very good or very bad, an easily switch rolls I feel.
There will also always be groups that don't want that and will fight for it not to happen, so I don't see it really happening in our lifetime since I think it will take some time to make a WHOLE world government, but I do see the hopeful good that could happen but like said already I can also see the unfortunate bad that could happen instead..
It's weird to think about to be honest.

Originally posted by prisoneronashipoffools
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Anyway, I wasn't really serious about it in the first place, because the lazy masses can't bother to spare us a country of our own or a way of the earth either, so until then dreamers like me are stuck with the rest of you, so you will just have to bare our idealistic opinions and ideals or, you could just simply ignore me, much like you did the post where I pointed out that, if you use the logic that past examples of failed nations, mean the ideas the nation was founded on, can never work, then the current growing failure of the United States, means we should throw out the ideas of capitalism and the constitution as well.
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Except that the problems the United States has, have come from the socialist ideas people like you have...

The Federal Reserve was implemented by PROGRESSIVE Democrats, under a PROGRESSIVE Democrat as President, Woodrow Wilson... These same PROGRESSIVE Democrats also founded the IRS, and all it's taxes as it exists today... it is because of those, and other PROGRESSIVE Democrats, and other leftwingers, who implemented other laws which have allowed for corruption to enter in every section of our nation, and the world...

From the WORLD Bank, the UN, the IMF (International Monetary Fund) and every other SOCIALIST idea implemented in the world, these are the biggest reason why we are in an economic crisis, since they made the crisis so that a New World Government can be implemented, and as we can see several people, in their ignorance, are ready to believe this "New World Government" will be good and will bring equality and happiness for everyone...

Democratising Global Governance:

The Challenges of the World Social Forum

by

Francesca Beausang



ABSTRACT

This paper sums up the debate that took place during the two round tables organized by UNESCO within the first World Social Forum in Porto Alegre (25/30 January 2001). It starts with a discussion of national processes, by examining democracy and then governance at the national level. It first states a case for a "joint" governance based on a combination of stakeholder theory, which is derived from corporate governance, and of UNESCO's priorities in the field of governance. As an example, the paper investigates how governance can deviate from democracy in the East Asian model. Subsequently, the global dimension of the debate on democracy and governance is examined, first by identification of the characteristics and agents of democracy in the global setting, and then by allusion to the difficulties of transposing governance to the global level.
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The governments of Europe, the United States, and Japan are unlikely to negotiate a social-democratic pattern of globalization – unless their hands are forced by a popular movement or a catastrophe, such as another Great Depression or ecological disaster

www.unesco.org...

The world elites have had this goal in mind for a very long time, and many naive people are falling for the lies from the same elites who brought us socialism/communism and every other form of dictatorship to the world...

reply to post by MyrtlePlace
You would have to be able to put all the crooks in check first, like the cops want to video us anytime they want. If you video them you will get smacked up side the head, your video camera broken and be placed in jail.

That's why everything needs to be on video, with live streaming 24/7, also keep people from stealing TP, you know they do, heaven forbid but they do.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Ah, and that brings us to our next great challenge as a species.

Overpopulation and efficiency.

Fantastic post.

In order to be efficient, wouldn't we pretty much be required to be some sort of one world unity?

ElectricUniverse,,

I am sure in person you are a great person.
here,,,
not so sure.
Sorry we don't see Eye to Eye,, such is life.
Still will hold you in the Light that shines upon us ALL.

Thanks for all the attacks, it made me glad to be a Human.

Wouldn't make no difference , Life gonna be far worse after the one world establishment....I'm not just saying i'm telling you the truth.

reply to post by muse7


your attitude undermines the freedoms the Constitution currently allows you to enjoy.. maybe if you comprehended them better you would fight to maintain their structure instead of speaking poisonous words seeking to destroy them from within.. we have enough of that going on already...

- small federal government

- strong local & state governments

The basic idea was to get government as close to the people as possible.

The more remote it is from the people, the more dangerous it becomes..

In the words of Thomas Jefferson:

"The true theory of our Constitution is surely the wisest and best.. When all government .. shall be drawn to Washington (ie United Nations) as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as.. oppressive as the government from which it separated.

What has destroyed the liberty and the rights of man in every government which has existed under the sun? The generalizing and concentrating all cares and powers into one body... The way to have good and safe government is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many.. It is by dividing and sub-dividing these republics, from the great nation one down... that all will be done for the best"

James Madison stressed the necessity to reserve all possible authority in the states and people saying " The powers delegated by the Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."

Amendment X

"The powers not delegated to the Untied States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"


if you find it so & wish for a one world government to control you or I from some far off distant global power..maybe its time you changed your location from within the U.S.A. to somewhere else that good men & women have not shed blood to defend & protect Constitutional Ideals gleaned from tyrannical rulers throughout history..only to have you toss them aside so caviler..

Originally posted by RSF77
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

Ah, and that brings us to our next great challenge as a species.

Overpopulation and efficiency.

Fantastic post.

edit on 17-3-2012 by RSF77 because: (no reason given)

There's plenty of room on this planet. If that's not enough, there's a whole universe out there waiting for us to stop killing each other over illusions. We need to buckle down as a race if we're going to ever get out of the backwater part of the galaxy.

After the moon landing, people should have really huddled together to surpass the next hurdle, but, "nah, lets have another war instead!"

I'd love to see how long it would take for everyone to agree on the exact terms of a one world government.

Anyway, the one thing we really need will take a very long time - psychological evolution.

Why do you directly through your thoughts at oppression and violence whenever someone is talking about one world government? If every human has equal rights then there shouldn't be different governments that give people different rights, right? Yes the world seems to big to be governed by one single government but if you only knew how little this world actually is.

What EQUAL rights do you grant women?????

My opinion is that we should apply Sharia law to the one world government, where Allah laws are supreme and not man made laws.

Allah wrote what now?? What do you know of Allah ? You read a book written by men, copied from another book written by men. Tell me something you have come to for yourself that you have not had drilled into your head since birth!

All though I know that this won't happen today, I know it will most definitely happen tomorrow (near future). If you only saw the beauty of Islam and the peace it brings, you wouldn't give the universe for it.

Whats beautiful about it? I have peace with my friends and neighbors WITHOUT ISLAM!!! explain...how does that work???

Would you agree that interest corrupts the governments and turns individuals against each other? It eats the flesh of your brothers doesn't it? You want the solution for thieving? Chop off a hand and you'll be guaranteed that the thieving rate will decrease massively.

If it works so well, why do people still get their hands chopped off????

Look at how much damage thieving damaged the world government; www.spendonlife.com...

Lets paste some links of innocent civilians getting beheaded because they were not from a given country????

Don't you wish that you lived in a world where interest didn't exist? Am I that stupid believing that you can't accept the fact that there once were no banks taking interest? Is it fair to create money out of thin air? We all have equal rights, why can't everyone create money out of thin air? If you want fairness, apply Sharia law as the supreme law.

Sharia law does what for women?? I'd rather not have half my family stoned because you were trained not to !!THINK!! The law that works best results in no need for any law.

Abolish ALL religion and obey the following:

1) 'Honor your father and your mother, siblings and fellow (wo)man'

2) 'You shall not murder.'

3) 'You shall not commit adultery.'

4) 'You shall not steal.'

5) 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'

6) 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'

First of all this thread is not about America.

This thread is about bringing a One World Government, I clearly stated a few times that the power would not go to several individuals but that it would be shared bi-laterally by elected officials which would represent every region of the world and the people, which would vote on laws that were brought up.

Countries could still exist hypothetically, but each country would elect representatives which would represent that country. I never said your freedoms would be taken away. A lot of people here are accusing me of making too many "assumptions" but yet the arguments I'm reading are based on assumptions as well.

I do not need anyone to "educate" me. I don't think the current system is working, and I feel we need to come up with a new one.

A new system where everyone would have the same rights, same opportunity and their opinion would count the same as the opinion of someone across the globe.

This is not about taking your "rights" away, this is about coming up with a new system where everyone would get the same rights.

The problem with your hypothesis is that there is always a push to the lowest common denominator. Yes, it would be great if everyone had the same rights as those in Canada. But the reality is that everyone wouldn't have those rights. They'd have the same rights as those in China, or North Korea.

The lowest wages, the lowest freedom, the least civil rights, the lowest quality of life.

To maintain the quality of life you enjoy now in the West, we must resist a one world government and amalgamation of the trading blocs that have been formed. If possible, we must break those trading blocs and go back to tarriffs and import duties.

Originally posted by AdamsMurmur

Originally posted by RSF77
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

Ah, and that brings us to our next great challenge as a species.

Overpopulation and efficiency.

Fantastic post.

edit on 17-3-2012 by RSF77 because: (no reason given)

There's plenty of room on this planet. If that's not enough, there's a whole universe out there waiting for us to stop killing each other over illusions. We need to buckle down as a race if we're going to ever get out of the backwater part of the galaxy.

After the moon landing, people should have really huddled together to surpass the next hurdle, but, "nah, lets have another war instead!"

The way I see it we need a combination of a)population size control and b)settle on other planets.

I don't think the earth has the necessary resources to sustain humans and animals for perpetuity.

Not to mention the materialistic and financial drive to exploit as many natural resources as possible is making companies take one short cut after another and officials looking the other way for their own reasons. Money is essentialy a paper medium of bartering backed by government: it can be reproduced! What cannot easily be reproduced are the NATURAL RESOURCES and the devastion of wildlife caused by pollution.

The only way to suceed is through correct knowledge and team effort. The ptb seem to have a superiority complex in this regard in that they don't trust open debate with politicians and the people. Too many things remain classified that should not be.