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Q&A Session with John Lear

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posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by Paul_Richard

The aliens do not want to destroy us. They wish to continue to covertly harvest us for their own selfish purposes.


What purposes would that be?


The truth takes some getting used to...

They wish to continue to use our bodies for their ongoing genetic experiments and our planet for its resources. Zecharia Sitchin has made similar conclusions from his deciphering of ancient Akkadian and Sumerian clay tablets. They've been at it for hundreds of thousands of years.

Dr. David M. Jacobs espouses from his research with abductees that aliens are using many of us for a long-term breeding program. One of the reasons behind this is to come up with a Hybrid army to defend them against us. The implication being that they are planning to eventually deploy their forces in a conventional invasion and occupation and no longer be so covert in their abductions, breeding programs, and genetic experiments.

Abductees have reported that Nordics (genetically engineered Homo sapiens) serve on alien spacecraft as security in protecting the weaker Greys against their Terran prisoners. A logical extrapolation is that there is already a standing Nordic army at their disposal.

So much for shattering the benign "ET phone home" conception of aliens!



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 12:40 PM
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If they are 1000#s of years ahead of us, then logic dictates they could take us out anytime, surely.

No disrespect but the same we we could take out the monkey population.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 12:43 PM
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I agree with Mr Lear, the people have no right to know. The only reason that mankind gets on in life is the fact that we dont know the greater truth.
Good job too really.

And even if the truth was suddenly exposed to the world it wouldnt matter, cos it would be put down as dis information.

so we wouldnt know the truth is it hit us head on.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by partykid
OFFTOPIC: Also, i have high chances of getting Dr. Steven Greer here on ATS, also for a discussion
What you think of this guys?


I side with John Lear on this issue. Steven Greer promotes an inaccurate appraisal of the aliens. He says that the aliens are benevolent. This is nonsense as they are self-serving and subtly imperialistic -- evidenced by the many reports by abductees in having been used as laboratory animals.

Getting Bob Lazar in here would be nice although I would understand if he declined the offer because of all the mudslinging that has gone on against him.




posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 12:48 PM
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People do know, some at least how many 10, 100, 1000 who knows.

What gives them the right to know, are they better than me, more intelligent, richer, different religion, i don't know.

But what i do know is I want to know - so please don't put me in with the masses who you seem to think are ignorant and blissful with it!!!!!

Im not going to die of fright when i find out are you?



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 12:48 PM
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John,

Have you seen any of these advanced aircraft/spacecraft up close and clearly?

I was wondering because I have witnessed such, and have noticed almost all Flying Saucer photos are blurred, even to this day with many high resolution digital cameras at greater statistics. I only know that what I saw with my own eyes was very clearly a machine, with multi colored lights on the bottom, and other lights on the top. It was in Waikiki of all places, between the Twin Banyan Towers, possibly witnessed by hundreds of people in those buildings in April of 1983.

The question is whether you have seen any clear photos of so called UFOs, that take it to the next step of being "identified," if you will? Was your encounter at Area 51 with Lazar at a far distance or fairly close to be clear?

Also are clear photos of Flying Saucers highly suppressed?

[edit on 16-9-2004 by SkipShipman]



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by SkipShipman
John,

Have you seen any of these advanced aircraft/spacecraft up close and clearly?

I was wondering because I have witnessed such, and have noticed almost all Flying Saucer photos are blurred, even to this day with many high resolution digital cameras at greater statistics. I only know that what I saw with my own eyes was very clearly a machine, with multi colored lights on the bottom, and other lights on the top. It was in Waikiki of all places, between the Twin Banyan Towers, possibly witnessed by hundreds of people in those buildings in April of 1983.

The question is whether you have seen any clear photos of so called UFOs, that take it to the next step of being "identified," if you will? Was your encounter at Area 51 with Lazar at a far distance or fairly close to be clear?

Also are clear photos of Flying Saucers highly suppressed?

[edit on 16-9-2004 by SkipShipman]


Well, if you read John's answers here, he said, besides the incident when Bob Lazar took him to Area 51 test sight and watched UFO, no other incident has taken place, as i know of.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 01:51 PM
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John, thank you for your answers.

I referred to 2 security guards, due to the knowledge of Mr. Cooper NOT being incarcerated, therefore making the one you mentioned a second informant. Thank you for the clarification.

Further questions (if I may).

1. Do you have any details regarding an arrangement made at Holloman AFB, often alluded to? Such as what we traded for what?

2. Do you have any information regarding the announcement of a discovered planet in the Zeti Reticuli system, and then the subsequent retraction of that announcement (a couple years ago)?

3. Any other details regarding the aliens' agenda? (specifically the grays, as to the goals of their interference...as to what end?)

4. What are your thoughts on Mr. Corso's book, The Day After Roswell? (if you've read it?)

Thanks again for your time.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by SkipShipman
John,

Have you seen any of these advanced aircraft/spacecraft up close and clearly?

I was wondering because I have witnessed such, and have noticed almost all Flying Saucer photos are blurred, even to this day with many high resolution digital cameras at greater statistics. I only know that what I saw with my own eyes was very clearly a machine, with multi colored lights on the bottom, and other lights on the top. It was in Waikiki of all places, between the Twin Banyan Towers, possibly witnessed by hundreds of people in those buildings in April of 1983.

The question is whether you have seen any clear photos of so called UFOs, that take it to the next step of being "identified," if you will? Was your encounter at Area 51 with Lazar at a far distance or fairly close to be clear?

Also are clear photos of Flying Saucers highly suppressed?

[edit on 16-9-2004 by SkipShipman]


I have not seen any advanced craft up close. Other than the saucer I saw with Lazar which was clear, flying saucer shape, radiating yellow or goldish 'something' from its surface, through an 8 inch Celestron, the only other strange thing I have seen was on descent into LAX, over Palm Springs, in a Lear Jet at about 35,000 feet an object resembling an M2-F2 passed me coming from my left and behind to my right and in front and disappeared ahead. For many years I told people I had seen and M-2-F2 only to realize the absurdity of a test drop of that craft from Edwards AFB right through the middle of the main approach corridor to LAX.

The best, clearest photos of ET craft and in the 2 large color albums of the Billy Meiers craft published in the late 70's but of course, as expected, everybody thinks they are fake and in my humble opinion they were not.

Of course there are real clear photos of craft that the government has but they will never be released to the public. I knew a airplane cleaner at EG&G Special Projects that was cleaning out on the of B-737's one evening when he came across a 9x12 envelope in a back seat pocket. It was not sealed so he looked in it and saw 8 or 10 photos of the ET saucers kept at Aera 51. He put the envelope back and finished cleaning the airplane. The next day he was called in early to work and given a 4 hour debriefing/workover. Apparently the guy who had left them on the airplane went immediately to security to confess and then they went to my friend. I never heard what the outcome of the incident was and have not seen that guy in many years. Somewhere else on ATS I have posted the story about Terry Rivera and his incident at the underground hanagar near 29 Palms where he was assigned to take pictures of ET saucers we had there particularly the interior.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 02:17 PM
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A couple quick questions... Did you write this? (and still stand by everything in this page?) www.naturalhealthholistic.com...

example snippet... In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the aliens. And here is how it happened. But before I begin I'd like to offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They had the best of intentions .
and if so... your opinion of this page please (not the snippet, but the entire story)? www.ufomind.com...

example snippet... Since I made his threats public, he has claimed that I am a "Walter Mitty" who would like to flatter myself that someone cared enough to feel threatened by my disclosures. I believe, however, that Lear's fear has been genuine for some time that I will expose his complete fraudulence on the UFO issue, and his participation in such treasonous and criminal flight operations over a number of years.
Thanks.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 02:19 PM
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My Lear,

PLEASE provide much more information about this yellow book.

BTW, do you follow any religion ?



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
John, thank you for your answers.

I referred to 2 security guards, due to the knowledge of Mr. Cooper NOT being incarcerated, therefore making the one you mentioned a second informant. Thank you for the clarification.

Further questions (if I may).

1. Do you have any details regarding an arrangement made at Holloman AFB, often alluded to? Such as what we traded for what?

2. Do you have any information regarding the announcement of a discovered planet in the Zeti Reticuli system, and then the subsequent retraction of that announcement (a couple years ago)?

3. Any other details regarding the aliens' agenda? (specifically the grays, as to the goals of their interference...as to what end?)

4. What are your thoughts on Mr. Corso's book, The Day After Roswell? (if you've read it?)

Thanks again for your time.


I don't know what the arrangement was at Holloman. I have spent a great deal of time with Robert Emengger who was a writer/producer with Sandler Films (CIA front) who was assigned to Make "UFO's: Past, Present and Future (Or: UFO's: It Has Begun) primarily about the Holloman incident. Bob claimed that they were to be given full access to all Pentgon UFO footage for this film but the plug was pulled at the last moment. He related a story where the film (in canisters) was driven from Hollywood to Washington in a car.

2. I don't remember that announcement. Bob Lazar read that the greys come from Zeta 4, the fourth planet out from Zeta Reticuli 2. It supposedly had a day equal to 90 earth hours. The greys were described as highly advanced cybernetic organisms that were made specifically for the purpose of monitering the earth humankind expermient. The only information Bob read (or would tell me) about the guys who made the greys was that they lived over 1000 lights years from earth. It was then that Bob made the statement that we had (the U.S.) sent a message to those guys asking help to get rid of the greys. That was when I asked about communication and wouldn't it take 1000 years for the message to get there and a thousand years to get back. No, he said, they can hook up a phone to a gravity wave (gravity is instantaneous throughout the universe not the 1.03 speed of light you have been fed) and have instant communication. I never heard what the outcome of the conversation was and a few years ago Bob mentioned on radio that he didn't ever remember relating a story to me about the message or the gravity phone to me. I'll stand by my story.

3. No info other that we are a farm for many types of experiments.

4. I read Corso's book and Corso's comments on the book a year or so later. I think he had a lot of real information but I think it was heavily edited particularly that ridiculous statement about the Hellfire missles. (The gist of the statement was, "Anybody who thinks Aliens are a threat doesn't know the power of our Hellfire missles.) Also a lot of the information that he said was released circa 1960 was produced long before that.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear No, he said, they can hook up a phone to a gravity wave (gravity is instantaneous throughout the universe not the 1.03 speed of light you have been fed) and have instant communication.
Interesting. But gravity weakens over a distance... and gravity doesn't have "wavelengths" so how does one distinguish the "gravity wave phone" from the gravity of a planet?



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 02:33 PM
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Recently so many questions have occured,
good lad, John, ask for a payment on ATS



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
A couple quick questions...


Did you write this? (and still stand by everything in this page?)
www.naturalhealthholistic.com...

example snippet...
In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the aliens. And here is how it happened. But before I begin I'd like to offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They had the best of intentions .


and if so... your opinion of this page please (not the snippet, but the entire story)?
www.ufomind.com...

example snippet...
Since I made his threats public, he has claimed that I am a "Walter Mitty" who would like to flatter myself that someone cared enough to feel threatened by my disclosures. I believe, however, that Lear's fear has been genuine for some time that I will expose his complete fraudulence on the UFO issue, and his participation in such treasonous and criminal flight operations over a number of years.



Thanks.


I wrote the paper in 1987. There are a number of changes I would make now it is 17 years later. If you have any specific questions I would be happy to answer them until such time as I have time to write an update.


Regarding Lars Hansson's comments, I commented on them earlier on this thread. Lars and I were very close friends for a couple of years. He was in a position to know a lot of things as my 'aide-de-camp'. He has a great sense of humor and is an excellent writer. I welcome anyones attempt to expose my fraudulence on the UFO issue.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 02:56 PM
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how lame is that he didnt answer my questions....

they are either dumb questions or he is dumb and doesnt know the answer. i am swinging towards the latter!



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear Regarding Lars Hansson's comments, I commented on them earlier on this thread.
Could you point them out please? As far as I can tell, this is the first time the name, "Hansson" has come up in this thread. Also... could you relate about what kind of person Bob Lazar was before his time spent at "Area 51"? Thanks.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by sturod84
how lame is that he didnt answer my questions....

they are either dumb questions or he is dumb and doesnt know the answer. i am swinging towards the latter!


Well we are a LOT, he is ONE. I would suggest to post it again.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear
Partykid is dead on correct. I don't know the secret. All I have are clues.


what have your clues lead you to believe. I've never really heard of you either, so I'm sitting on the fence as far as having an opinion on everything I've read so far.

The problem is I don't really know what your theory is. What's the experiment for? If there's a beginning and an end then there must be a reason to conduct it, what is the agenda? I would also like to hear alot more about how all this relates to religion. I know you don't have all the answers but as you've said you have 'clues', so I'd like to know what they've lead you to believe, as you said most of us wouldn't be able to ever believe it.

You may have gone into this before on other threads or other sites, but I am also extremely lazy.

Thanks for you time.



posted on Sep, 16 2004 @ 03:36 PM
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I don't know what the arrangement was at Holloman. I have spent a great deal of time with Robert Emengger who was a writer/producer with Sandler Films (CIA front) who was assigned to Make "UFO's: Past, Present and Future (Or: UFO's: It Has Begun) primarily about the Holloman incident. Bob claimed that they were to be given full access to all Pentgon UFO footage for this film but the plug was pulled at the last moment. He related a story where the film (in canisters) was driven from Hollywood to Washington in a car.


Interesting note about this, for those who didn't know, thanks John. He isn't the only producer this has been pulled on. Much of this sounds similar to what happened with the UFO Coverup Live team.


2. I don't remember that announcement. Bob Lazar read that the greys come from Zeta 4, the fourth planet out from Zeta Reticuli 2. It supposedly had a day equal to 90 earth hours. The greys were described as highly advanced cybernetic organisms that were made specifically for the purpose of monitering the earth humankind expermient. The only information Bob read (or would tell me) about the guys who made the greys was that they lived over 1000 lights years from earth. It was then that Bob made the statement that we had (the U.S.) sent a message to those guys asking help to get rid of the greys. That was when I asked about communication and wouldn't it take 1000 years for the message to get there and a thousand years to get back. No, he said, they can hook up a phone to a gravity wave (gravity is instantaneous throughout the universe not the 1.03 speed of light you have been fed) and have instant communication. I never heard what the outcome of the conversation was and a few years ago Bob mentioned on radio that he didn't ever remember relating a story to me about the message or the gravity phone to me. I'll stand by my story.


The announcement was pretty low key, as are all such extra solar planets that are detected. It was in September, a couple of years ago. Interesting to note that the Betty and Barney Hill case also point to Zeti-Reticuli, as do numerous documents, and Lazar's comments as well. Hence, my connection to this discovery/retraction.


4. I read Corso's book and Corso's comments on the book a year or so later. I think he had a lot of real information but I think it was heavily edited particularly that ridiculous statement about the Hellfire missles. (The gist of the statement was, "Anybody who thinks Aliens are a threat doesn't know the power of our Hellfire missles.) Also a lot of the information that he said was released circa 1960 was produced long before that.


No doubt Corso had an overblown sense of self-importance, and confidence that we could beat the aliens. I'm more curious about your take on his comments about reverse-engineering major discoveries from UFO parts, and feeding them through the private scientific circuits, so as to appear of our own make? (only actual question in this post)



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