'US deploys troops in Israel for Iran war'

reply to post by apodictic

Dear apodictic,

I have been living here in the UAE for over seven years and have lived with Iranians offshore in the Persian Gulf and in the Caspian Sea on many oil rigs.

You are very wrong. The Iranian people that I have lived and worked with are not in the stone age but are very westernized and fantastic people.
Do not mix Politics with Humanity.

That is a big mistake that you and many people make.

People are people...we all want the same thing. Life, love and family.

Don't Mix them up.

73's,
Tom

Total joke on this post....

Take a lot more sugar than 7000 troups and coming this spring?) (LMAO)
More like techs and personal on this venture...

More of a defense exersise,,these which has been going on for some time.

Funny to me,,take an article thats in question, and re-write it.

Alot of you ANTI thrive on war it seems....and not for the best interest either.

Go to bed and sleeep it off.

"Unnamed source" = hearsay.

How reliable is Global Research?

reply to post by Jerisa


Obama just announced at the Pentagon he is going to slash the Military and reduce it's size and budget to reduce the deficit, which of course was caused by him and his predecessor Bush.

That is probably more telling than the constant barrage of stories from "unnamed" sources coming from that Website, that seldom end up being accurate. In my opinion PressTV is just another Blog acting like a News Source that generates nothing itself and simply picks out stories from real sources to mix with it's information, nearly always from "unnamed" sources.

In my opinion PressTV routinely runs propaganda for Terrorists groups like Hezbollah funded and backed by Iran.

Odds are this is just another in the string of propaganda stories intended for internal consumption and not based on fact.

The only action you will see is the sanctioning of Iran's Central Bank.

How many years in a row now have the same people made these same claims? Chicken Little or The Boy Who Cried Wolf, take your pick.
The Joint Exercises are held every year and every year the liars who spread pro-Terrorist Propaganda pretty much spin current news to use as propaganda.

reply to post by tomdham


I am not talking about ALL Iranian people. Of course I know that people are people no matter where they live. I am talking about the "DEATH TO AMERICA" chanting, "God's chosen ones" extremist types. Those are the threats, and also the ones running the show. They are a danger.

reply to post by Blaine91555


Well, it looks like the UK is making some noise now too regarding the Strait.

news.sky.com...

If someone could post the video I would appreciate it.

The UK would respond militarily if Iran carries out its threat to close the Strait of Hormuz, the Defence Secretary has warned. Philip Hammond used a speech in Washington DC to warn Iran that any attempt to close the key Gulf trade route would be "unsuccessful" and could be stopped in part by the Royal Navy. "Any attempt by Iran to do this would be illegal and unsuccessful," he said in a speech at the Atlantic Council. "Our joint naval presence in the Arabian Gulf, something our regional partners appreciate, is key to keeping the Strait of Hormuz open for international trade. "It is in all our interests that the arteries of global trade are kept free, open and running. Disruption to the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz would threaten regional and global economic growth." Iran has threatened to block the 34-mile wide strait in retaliation for a planned EU trade embargo on Iranian oil. It is understood that EU governments have reached agreement on a trade embargo, but are yet to say when it will be implemented. Transport Secretary Philip Hammond Mr Hammond: 'It is in all our interests that the arteries of global trade are kept open' Each day, 15.5 million barrels of oil pass through the narrow stretch of water between Iran and the United Arab Emirates. Its closure would have a significant global impact. One of the UK's leading energy suppliers has warned an embargo will force up oil prices in the UK. Volker Beckers, chief executive of npower, told Jeff Randall Live on Wednesday: "It is very important and it will have effects on oil prices." The Royal Navy currently has a strong presence in the Arabian Gulf as part of the Combined Maritime Forces headquartered in Bahrain. British mine counter-measure vessels also operate in the area. Mr Hammond is in Washington DC for his first meeting with his US counterpart since he took over from Liam Fox as Defence Secretary last year. He and US defence secretary Leon Panetta held private talks at the Pentagon. As well as discussing Iran, the two discussed the mission in Afghanistan and the combat troop withdrawal at the end of 2014. Pakistan's continued refusal to re-open Nato supply routes into Afghanistan is also thought to have been covered. Mr Hammond's speech repeated concerns made by his predecessor over the willingness of some Nato member nations to "meet their responsibilities". Our joint naval presence in the Arabian Gulf, something our regional partners appreciate, is key to keeping the Strait of Hormuz open for international trade. Defence Secretary Philip Hammond "Libya and Afghanistan have highlighted the significant difficulties we face in ensuring that Nato continues to serve the needs of collective security," he said. "Too many countries are failing to meet their financial responsibilities to Nato, and so failing to maintain appropriate and proportionate capabilities. "Too many are opting out of operations or contributing but a fraction of what they should be capable of. This is a European problem, not an American one. And it is a political problem, not a military one." British defence officials will not be drawn on where he is directing his frustration, but Germany is one member state which choses not to take part in the Libyan intervention and whose involvement in Afghanistan is severely restricted. Mr Hammond also reflected on the financial restraints both within the Pentagon and the British Ministry of Defence. Echoing the views of the head of the British military, General Sir David Richards, Mr Hammond said that a strong economy is key to a secure nation. "The debt crisis should be considered the greatest strategic threat to the future security of our nations," he said. "Without strong economies and stable public finances it is impossible to build and sustain, in the long-term, the military capability required to project power and maintain defence."

To be honest if we put aside all the US politics and Big Money and Oil , the Way The Religous GVT treats the common people of Iran and the way they put down women is wrong ..Is sickens me to no end to see the videos of Islamic punishment against women , if there was some we we could liberate the people of Iran and just wipe out there insane evil ass rulers i would be all for it ...

Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

I've thought about that. Do you know anything regarding the number of those types of weapons that would actually be able to breach our security and make their way into the US? From what I understand, all kinds of crazy things are found trying to be smuggled in on ships and such all the time.

I just came back from Iraq not too long ago so I'm all too well aware of their poor living conditions and tactics they use involving women and children. The kids would always go crazy for some bottled water or a candy bar

edit on 5-1-2012 by apodictic because: (no reason given)

APO....I have a specific....Job...that I do from time to time that takes me to many different places. Right now...even though I HATE THE #@%*&%@ DESERT!....I wish I had been there when my childhoods son was killed. He was a good kid and a Sniper. A STUPID policy of making American troops more based within villages in Afghanistan has a SNIPER...who should have been buried in the reeds or on a mountain top....forced to walk around a village in a HEARTS AND MINDS CAMPAGN. I am still VERY angry.

We would bring thousands of stuffed animal toys for the kids and candy...they would go nuts! These people need our help desperately but are being forced to do suicide bombing runs as the COWARD TALIBAND hold guns and knives to the throuts of these poor peoples children. The same happened in Iraq. As far as a Dirty Bomb...we have detecters spread EVERYWHERE...even from space...but unless they buy a Soviet suitcase bomb...they are more likely to only be able to smuggle in a Dirty Bomb and not a working Fission Reactionable weapon. If there ever was a Nuke Terrorist attack...I have seen some of the possible responses....it first and foremost protects the oil from being rendered useless and we have a much wider capability and range of choices in very exotic Neutron like weapons. This one thing...any attempt by any group to go nuclear or Biological....would eneact a response by the U.S. that would end this Middle East problem....FOREVER.
Split Infinity

It seems fair game to me. If iran is going to threaten israel and america, then america and israel should coperate in setting back iran. The iranian population are sheep led to the slaughterhouse of their religious dictator: basically another ayatollah homeni.

This does not excuse israel's treatment of the palestinians though and the fact they insist on a non-secular government with dividing walls everywhere. The two state solution was dead for the getgo and they should let it go. Jews, christians and muslims need to learn to live together in peace. Israel should be another lebanon as I see it.

It is not a war against iran. It should be a tactical strike with saboteurs, to make sure iran never develops a nuclear arsenal until iran becomes a democracy and religious extremism dies.

Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by tomdham

 

I am not talking about ALL Iranian people. Of course I know that people are people no matter where they live. I am talking about the "DEATH TO AMERICA" chanting, "God's chosen ones" extremist types. Those are the threats, and also the ones running the show. They are a danger.

The "Death to America" chanting is paid for and nothing more than a publicity stunt, much like the highly advertized "Arab Spring" or "Occupy Wall Street" BS, etc. It is nothing more than photo ops for anarchy and socialism.

I really wish people, especially Americans, can see the world through the lens of reality and not the perverted lens of the MSM or the asinine ATS posts.

Keep a clear head.

73's,
Tom

Originally posted by Jerisa
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Well, it looks like the UK is making some noise now too regarding the Strait.

news.sky.com...

If someone could post the video I would appreciate it.

The UK would respond militarily if Iran carries out its threat to close the Strait of Hormuz, the Defence Secretary has warned. Philip Hammond used a speech in Washington DC to warn Iran that any attempt to close the key Gulf trade route would be "unsuccessful" and could be stopped in part by the Royal Navy. "Any attempt by Iran to do this would be illegal and unsuccessful," he said in a speech at the Atlantic Council. "Our joint naval presence in the Arabian Gulf, something our regional partners appreciate, is key to keeping the Strait of Hormuz open for international trade. "It is in all our interests that the arteries of global trade are kept free, open and running. Disruption to the flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz would threaten regional and global economic growth." Iran has threatened to block the 34-mile wide strait in retaliation for a planned EU trade embargo on Iranian oil. It is understood that EU governments have reached agreement on a trade embargo, but are yet to say when it will be implemented. Transport Secretary Philip Hammond Mr Hammond: 'It is in all our interests that the arteries of global trade are kept open' Each day, 15.5 million barrels of oil pass through the narrow stretch of water between Iran and the United Arab Emirates. Its closure would have a significant global impact. One of the UK's leading energy suppliers has warned an embargo will force up oil prices in the UK. Volker Beckers, chief executive of npower, told Jeff Randall Live on Wednesday: "It is very important and it will have effects on oil prices." The Royal Navy currently has a strong presence in the Arabian Gulf as part of the Combined Maritime Forces headquartered in Bahrain. British mine counter-measure vessels also operate in the area. Mr Hammond is in Washington DC for his first meeting with his US counterpart since he took over from Liam Fox as Defence Secretary last year. He and US defence secretary Leon Panetta held private talks at the Pentagon. As well as discussing Iran, the two discussed the mission in Afghanistan and the combat troop withdrawal at the end of 2014. Pakistan's continued refusal to re-open Nato supply routes into Afghanistan is also thought to have been covered. Mr Hammond's speech repeated concerns made by his predecessor over the willingness of some Nato member nations to "meet their responsibilities". Our joint naval presence in the Arabian Gulf, something our regional partners appreciate, is key to keeping the Strait of Hormuz open for international trade. Defence Secretary Philip Hammond "Libya and Afghanistan have highlighted the significant difficulties we face in ensuring that Nato continues to serve the needs of collective security," he said. "Too many countries are failing to meet their financial responsibilities to Nato, and so failing to maintain appropriate and proportionate capabilities. "Too many are opting out of operations or contributing but a fraction of what they should be capable of. This is a European problem, not an American one. And it is a political problem, not a military one." British defence officials will not be drawn on where he is directing his frustration, but Germany is one member state which choses not to take part in the Libyan intervention and whose involvement in Afghanistan is severely restricted. Mr Hammond also reflected on the financial restraints both within the Pentagon and the British Ministry of Defence. Echoing the views of the head of the British military, General Sir David Richards, Mr Hammond said that a strong economy is key to a secure nation. "The debt crisis should be considered the greatest strategic threat to the future security of our nations," he said. "Without strong economies and stable public finances it is impossible to build and sustain, in the long-term, the military capability required to project power and maintain defence."

stopped by the ROYAL NAVY. WHAT A JOKE. The royal navy.

reply to post by Jerisa


I personally think the chest pounding from Iran is also propaganda for it's own citizens. Iran is always on the brink of Civil War and the fake President and the true leaders of the Theocracy do this to control their citizens.

If Iran does attempt to block shipping in International Waters, nobody, including Russia and China will stand with them. Iran would be toast and they know it. The Arab League would sign on immediately and basically the whole Industrialized World would side against them as well. They cannot be that crazy.

Iran is quickly running out of freinds.

Originally posted by essanance
To be honest if we put aside all the US politics and Big Money and Oil , the Way The Religous GVT treats the common people of Iran and the way they put down women is wrong ..Is sickens me to no end to see the videos of Islamic punishment against women , if there was some we we could liberate the people of Iran and just wipe out there insane evil ass rulers i would be all for it ...

I agree. Time to unmask the cappers.

Seriously Presstv?"

Hello Iranian Press and people bought this hook line and sinker.

I am ashamed of ATS right now Critical thinking skills have fallen pretty damn far.

Originally posted by neo96
Seriously Presstv?"

Hello Iranian Press and people bought this hook line and sinker.

I am ashamed of ATS right now Critical thinking skills have fallen pretty damn far.

Thank you Neo!!!

I agree 100%

I have been trying to explain this for months here on ATS.
No one listens. I live with in the blast zone of the Straits of Hormuz.

Thanks again and 73's,
Tom

Originally posted by neo96
Seriously Presstv?"

Hello Iranian Press and people bought this hook line and sinker.

I am ashamed of ATS right now Critical thinking skills have fallen pretty damn far.

How about CNN. They got it up also. Look for yourself.

The thing that bothers me, perhaps greatly, I'm not really sure... Is people like Observer and several others. Now, don't take me personally Observer, if you do bother to read this. You folks who are anti-war, and anti-American and are busily pounding your keyboards, your chests, and such don't seem to know or remember one thing.

In spite of all your superiority, if the big countries go at it... You have about as much chance at survival as anyone else, and depending on how big the situation becomes, that may not be muhch.

I'm thinking that you ought to be trying hard to figure out a way to stop all this mania, as opposed to sitting at yur keyboards and trying to make Americans and pro-Americans feel bad.

If your not careful, and somehow preemptive, you will have been right all along,, but you will also be just as dead as everyone else.

Just sayin'....

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EDIT: OOPS it's the same link

I'm retarded

Originally posted by tomdham
reply to post by apodictic

 

Dear apodictic,

I have been living here in the UAE for over seven years and have lived with Iranians offshore in the Persian Gulf and in the Caspian Sea on many oil rigs.

You are very wrong. The Iranian people that I have lived and worked with are not in the stone age but are very westernized and fantastic people.
Do not mix Politics with Humanity.

That is a big mistake that you and many people make.

People are people...we all want the same thing. Life, love and family.

Don't Mix them up.

73's,
Tom

edit on 5-1-2012 by tomdham because: (no reason given)

When you support a lunatic at the helm, then you become an accomplice to their crimes. Sorry people are responsible for who they put into power. America was stupid enough to elect george bush jr twice and we paid the price.

The gazans were stupid enough to elect hamas and they are paying the price.

The iranians keep supporting an islamic extremist dictator and they may pay the price.

Bad decisions lead to bad results. Good decisions lead to good results.

reply to post by cloaked4u


So what joint miltary exercises happen all the time doesn't mean anything and it sure the hell doesn't mean war.

Oh know! us and japan military exercises mean we are going to go to war with China! or North Korea!

This is tiresome the boy who cried wolf.