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'US deploys troops in Israel for Iran war'

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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by cloaked4u

Originally posted by Patriotsrevenge

Originally posted by cloaked4u
If iran puts mines near the small entrance and sinks ships, how is anything going to go in or out without pulling up one or two sunken ships? That means all, ALL activities will be halted in that event. I think that is why iran built small subs to duck and cover, even those small boats they have will easily cross above any sunken ships. The passage there at the tip is so small and so shallow, it is a trap for anyone iran does not like. If such an event happens, i wonder how this will effect the nation of china and others who has oil deals with iran. If that happens then people would have to lob missles across a whole other country whom may or may not be willing to do so because of implications of who's side is on who's. and iran will attack that country for doing so. If this happens, it will be a missle strike first. The largest missle strike ever seen. Iran will exspect this and concentrate it's strength underwater to sink ships that defy them. The whole thing is crazy. A bad idea. It will cause a domino effect that i fear will lead to a long war. I hope they do more peace talks.


Oh common, the straight at its narrowest point is 35 miles. They would have to sink a lot of ships and If you think the U.S. Navy wont sink the entire Iranian navy after the first ship is sunk by them your not thinking correct. The days of warning Iran are over, I guess they didn't learn their lesson from Operation Praying Mantis.

Let me see U.S. Navy Virgina or Sea-wolf class sub verses 1950's Russian clunker sub. I would use one Sea-wolf class sub and take out the entire Iranian Navy and that is an absolute fact.



No it's narrow point is less than 5 miles and you have to steer to the deep areas to get thru with our ships. FACT.



You have to steer to the deep parts with our ships. That narrow part that you can go thru is less than 5 miles across and NO, i am not counting the water beyond, because our ships cannot go thru that. It is a strip of about 5 miles or less we can travel in, along with all those oil tankers that go thru there. Sat pic. www.enwikipedia.org...:Stra%C39Fe_von_Hormuz.jpg cannot get link to work.
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Alright last i heard those were still decades from deployement but still with the defense cuts that means R and D will be cut too.

As well as with the massives disarmament by US the rest of the world still goes full speed ahead the majority of US weapon systems are based off decades old technology.

People assume this nations "military might" is the best in the word it is the most outdated in the world.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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War on Iran has already begun. Act before it threatens all of us.-- www.abovetopsecret.com...


and to all those saying, the Us can't do it, there's been too many budget cuts,, kinda makes sense for the next false flag to be a nuclear one in order to justify a nuclear retaliation and level the playing field a bit!!

think it wont happen, its happened in past ages, i wonder how this one was started?!- www.bibliotecapleyades.net...



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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imho, there's no stopping it.

The global oligarchy has sufficent power and control over all the militaries and economies on the globe . . .

except for God and what He allows or doesn't . . .

they can and will get away with genocide.

Even the Bible says 1/3 of the population will die . . . and a bit later, another 1/3 of what's left will die.

1/3 of the grass and trees will die.

1/3 of the fish in the sea will die.

Not to be a pretty time, at all.

This deployment in Israel appears to be an early chunk of serious evidence that they are ramping up to their planned and scheduled WWIII.

Buckle seatbelts.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by TupacShakur
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Sure, it doesn't launch a war, but it butters them up and prepares them for one. If one does happen, they'll have the reasons programmed into their minds already.

Believe me, I steer clear of that baseless war propaganda, but that's not the case for many others.

Tupac,
Buttering up and preparing them or programming them, again, does launch any weapons.
There are too many people her in the GCC that will not put up with Shi'ite , Persian, Iranian crap.
I will not elaborate...look at Bahrain for a microcosm view.

73's,
Tom
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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I never said it does! But once the first shots are fired and the first troops get killed, something that you or me has very very little to no control over, the justification will be there. People will defend the war if it does happen. I'm not saying with absolutely certainty that we will go to war with Iran, but I'm just saying that it's likely, and if it does, many people will support it.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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Image in the source article, shows the USS Kitty Hawk. Are they saying the ship is headed over?


After the turnover, Kitty Hawk arrived at Bremerton, Washington in September and was informally retired on 31 January 2009.here


I will ask family ASAP that live in Bremerton if the Kitty Hawk is no longer docked at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard (NSY) Bremerton, Washington. In the mean time can anyone locally confirm?



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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Gonna burst some bubbles here but missile technicians do not equal "troops" and the only "shots fired" are missile drills.

How anyone says that will turn into a war i have no clue since they have been held for decades and has never turned into a war.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:41 PM
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I was under the impression R and D was seperate from the DoD budget.

Secondly as far as deployment goes, the F-117 Stealth fighter was actively flying towards the end fo the vietnam war. We recently saw with the pakistan raid we have advanced technology adapted to our helicopters, we have super advanced drones, we have made massive strides with space / plane / ship and im positive human based laser weapons.

Do we really thik we are going to gut our military without the ability to counter the dip with advanced weaponry? I think our enemies would take note more if we announced a massive cut and act like its not big deal.

As far as your post above goes about war - As i statedit comes from PressTV - Iranian media mouthpiece of the Iranian government.
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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Well, to make a long story really short my friend. I hope for you and your family's sake that you are right,that it does not happen.

I believe that it won't.

Keep a clear head!

73's,
Tom

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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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Yes i do budget cuts mean budget cuts and they will filter into every facet of defense to make up for it which leads leads to more outsourcing and more loss of jobs and more dependence of Foreign suppliers.

They already do that.

As to the "advanced" systems we have seen like this high tech stealth helicopter that had to be destroyed and a drone that failed?

Does not give me any confidence there which means basically the "walmart us military" which has another name mostly used "Chinamart".

They are cutting our throats in more ways than one.
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by apodictic
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I'm sure he was a great dude. I really admire him for getting through sniper school. That # is NOT a cake walk.

I'm interested in the steps you took to acquire this job. Did you have to go through a military branch? Did you approach them or did they approach you? What qualifications did you have to meet? You're welcome to U2U me the info you're able to give, if you'd like.
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I have to be careful about what I say. I needed an outlet to keep my mental helth and anything I post here has either already been talked about or leaked or has been speculated upon. I CANNOT talk about anything that is classified and I cannot divulge my identity but because I am CIVY....and they need me...and I agreed to help them and have NEVER signed a contract....I am allowed latitude. But these perks could be very easily removed if I were to do something stupid so don't expect me to come forward with anything that is secret.

I come from a Military/"Civilian" family and my "Civilian" Mom was the assigned secretary to a USAF General who ran a massive SAC base close to my home. I also have other family members who are serving at the "Civilian" level. These types of jobs tend to stay within families and you need to have a certain IQ and take a test that shows you have a certain moral....flexibility. I was courted in my JR. Year of High School because of standard IQ tests they gave everyone back then and although I can't spell worth a lick...I have superior math and observational skills as well as having an understanding of theoretical physics. I also taught Survival and was a BOY SCOUT....that after I turned 18...went on with programs to teach inner city youths how to swim and survive...this continued on with higher training until I taught Men Winter, Ocean, Jungle...etc..survival. But back in my SR. year of High School I was being constantly pestered my recruiters of various branches of the Military...back then...they had offices in every High School. One day while this was going on...a family man I will call "Uncle" pulled me out of the schools guidence dept. and SAVED ME...and offered me a deal. I have three jobs...I help run several family buisnesses...I am a World Class Musician and have toured internationaly with bands such as Aerosmith, Heart, Robin Trower, Stained, Motley Crew...etc...but I also was thinking about going to MIT but GEEK vs. CHICKS....Chicks win! But I was offered this...we will train you...you can play and tour as this was perfect for their uses...and we will get you a degree...this part I cannot discuss. They needed someone who was both physically capable but of high IQ...mine is 174...rediculous isn't it? Still can't find my sunglasses or spell...but because my Dad was military...I had been practicing Martial Arts since I was a kid as well as being a crack shot...Dad bought me a 308 with scope when I was 12. and I trusted "Uncle" and still do. As I have walked this path I have learned one very important thing...there are some real EVIL #@&*%$# out there and they all make the same mistake. They stop thinking and keep yelling how powerful they are...they are not. I have had meeting with people like this and wait as they scream and threaten for 30 to 45 min...then when they are yelled out I say...there has been a decision made and you can be on the right side of this or the wrong side...this is your only warning and chance so yes or no? They all say YES! The only reasons wars break out is when these meeting do not occur or someone drops the ball...as was the case when Iraqs leader pre-war asked our Ambasador...a nice women...what is the U.S. position on Iraqs dispute with Kuwait over slant drilling? Her answer...The U.S. considers this an ARAB affair. What happened...a war. Had there been a proper meeting...there would never have been a Gulf War. Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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We had a really intelligent discussion going here.

Why do you always post this crap????
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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there wont be a WWlll, the benevolent aliens arent going to allow it


What convinces you of this?

The critters are the ones who convinced the globalist oligarchy that the global population MUST be forced down to 200 million ASAP.

Certainly the oligarchy's boss from hell loves genocide.

The strategies and manipulations setting up the conflict between Israel, Iran and WWIII and whatever other Middle East conflicts are long planned.

They may be delayed and adjusted on details . . . but they are part of a long written script.

BTW, I don't think the critters are the least bit benign--regardless of what half of the good-cop/bad-cop role/charade they have been assigned.

www.alienresistance.org...

may have some interesting info for some folks.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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...what is the U.S. position on Iraqs dispute with Kuwait over slant drilling? Her answer...The U.S. considers this an ARAB affair. What happened...a war. Had there been a proper meeting...there would never have been a Gulf War. Split Infinity

(still could have been avoided if Thatcher didn't mother Bush Sr. into it.)

ooops, first paragraph was suppose to be a quote from "Split's" above post.
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by Res Ipsa
...what is the U.S. position on Iraqs dispute with Kuwait over slant drilling? Her answer...The U.S. considers this an ARAB affair. What happened...a war. Had there been a proper meeting...there would never have been a Gulf War. Split Infinity

(still could have been avoided if Thatcher didn't mother Bush Sr. into it.)

ooops, first paragraph was suppose to be a quote from "Split's" above post.
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I think they meant Arab affair as in the 2 countries need to sit down and work it out. I dont think when they said Arab affair is was to green light the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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They got 108 now so
to you for your unjustified criticism thinking people are only worried about stupid flags. I wish Ats would get rid of the rude smiley faces. Ats wants things formal but then there is
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Thanks for the news but Obama did say he does not want another ground war (at least for us to pay for one).
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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I haven't read all 15 pages of this thread, mainly because of the source, Presstv.com.
Not exactly known for truth in reporting.

I did read the actual article from The Jerusalem Post, and couldn't find the statement that Presstv.com quotes here:

Commander of the US Third Air Force based in Germany Lt.-Gen Frank Gorenc said it is not just an "exercise," but a "deployment," The Jerusalem Post said.

Press Tv

That quote was also in the O.P.

Here is a link to the The Jerusalem Post article.
JPost

Nothing that I see about deployment.




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