God's seventh-day Sabbath: Its not Sunday.

SkyLiner,

re: "Nowhere in the Bible, is the Sabbath Day changed from the 7th Day to Sunday."

Nor is there any scripture that advocates the observance of the first day of the week for a day of rest and worship.

reply to post by Lee78


Acording to scripture everyday is our sabbath rest in Christ. We are to cease from our own works and rest in the work of Christ.

Originally posted by colbe

We are all dependent on what the Apostles and first Christians held
dear and passed on to us. How silly to think they didn't know which
day of the week they assembled to worship God.

The Sabbath was changed to the Lord's Day (see Revelation) to honor Christ, His Resurrection. He arose on Sunday. This is the New Covenant.

"Break bread" was a term for the Holy Eucharist and Paul uses
the term Eucharist which means thanksgiving in the Gospel.

The first day of the week is Sunday.


Acts Of Apostles 20:7
And on the first day of the week, when we were assembled to break bread, Paul discoursed with them, being to depart on the morrow: and he continued his speech until midnight.

1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made.

Apocalypse (Revelation) 1:10
I was in the spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

How do you get three days and three nights from friday to sunday?

guitarplayer,
re: " We are to cease from our own works and rest in the work of Christ."

What works did you use to do that you no longer do?

reply to post by rstrats


20 YEARS OF DRUG ADDICTION FOR ONE.

guitarplayer,

So you're saying that using drugs was a work that you did as a way for obtaining salvation?

Who gives a shi* what day the sabbath is.
If you worship christ, you should do so everyday regardless.

those 7th day advenists make me laugh. You just created a whole new "church" empire by just changing the so called "day of the sabbath". Another ploy to make money being a preacher.

resoe26,

re: "Who gives a shi* what day the sabbath is."

Apparently the supreme being of scripture does. It would seem to be important enough for Him to specifically identify the day by etching into the surface of a stone tablet.



re: " If you worship christ, you should do so everyday regardless."

Would that also apply to doing no labor everyday regardless?



re: "You just created a whole new 'church' empire by just changing the so called 'day of the sabbath'"

If you mean the 7th Day Adventists, I'm not aware of them changing any days. What do you have in mind?

reply to post by rstrats



re: "Who gives a shi* what day the sabbath is."
Apparently the supreme being of scripture does. It would seem to be important enough for Him to specifically identify the day by etching into the surface of a stone tablet.

-ahem.... so this is relevant to all religions eh? This "Sabbath" day is THAT important?
Once again.... WHO GIVES A FLYING FU**!
I'm sure God isn't tripping over who KNOWS for sure which day the sabbath is. I'm almost CERTAIN he has better Shi* to do. catch my drift smarta$$?



re: " If you worship christ, you should do so everyday regardless."

Would that also apply to doing no labor everyday regardless?
If you wish to dot that sure. and how in the fu** is that even relevant?


re: "You just created a whole new 'church' empire by just changing the so called 'day of the sabbath'"
If you mean the 7th Day Adventists, I'm not aware of them changing any days. What do you have in mind?
The seventh day adventists have thier "church" service on Saturday I believe.
Once again making me arrive at the point, WHO GIVES A SHI* what day the sabbath is.
These folks created a whole new money bringer by just changing a day.

reply to post by Lee78


Great job OP.

This is a foundational truth required of all called by God at this time to embrace.

Friday Sunset to Saturday Sunset is the Sabbath of the Eternal, "it shall be a SIGN/MARK that you are my people and I am your God."

Which Mark does an individual wear?

Mark of God.
Mark of Beast.

God Bless,

Originally posted by Andronian
6) The Law states to REMEMBER the Sabbath, That is their lack of adherence to the Law...it makes no diff which day the current "Church Gov uses as the day of worship...it is to us to REMEMBER the true Sabbath, and to keep that day HOLY...you can go to church any day, or none, that doesn't matter.

Remember the Swiss Cheese (and keep it holey)

A modern parable
By: The Prophet / Apostle Will



So say one day, you tell me you're going out to the store. I tell you I need some cheese for this recipe I'm making, and ask you to grab some while you're there.

"No problem," you say.

So you get to the store, and go over to the dairy section, and you can't find cheese anywhere-- just row after row of empty shelves. You see an employee stocking some products and so you ask him about cheese. He doesn't know, so he goes to get the manager. The manager comes over to talk to you.


"So you're the guy looking to buy some cheese?"

"That would be me. Do you have any stock in the back?"

"I'm sorry, sir, but we're fresh out of cheese. However, we do have this stuff," he says, reaching over to the shelf and picking up a gallon of milk.

"That doesn't look like cheese," you retort, skeptically.

"It's not," he confirms. "It's milk. But you see cheese is made from milk. So it's more or less the same stuff."

"Hm... I'm not sure. Can I phone a friend?"

"You still have a life-line left."

Not bothering to think about the strangeness of that exchange, you pull out your cellphone and call your pal Frank.

"Hey Frank-- is cheese made from milk?"

"Um... let me google that." You hear the staccato tap-click of a keyboard, then, "Yeah, pretty much the same stuff."

"Sold," you say, turning back to the store manager.


Now you return home and I ask the question-- "have you kept my commandment?"


"Right here," you smilingly state, holding up the milk.


But have you? Really? An authority told you that it was the same thing. You even asked someone else and he agreed. However, you did not do what I asked, no matter which "authority" claimed you did. One person (the manager) had incentive to mislead you. The other did not understand the matter at hand. Either way-- neither person had any real authority to speak for me, about what i wanted.

reply to post by guitarplayer

According to scripture everyday is our sabbath rest in Christ. We are to cease from our own works and rest in the work of Christ.

It doesn't actually say any of that. I realize preachers will say that, but it is just their interpretation.
Hebrews 4:11 says,
Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.
(2011 NIV)
where the writer is talking about believing, equating disbelief in his analogy with disobedience.

reply to post by colbe

Sunday worship has always been the worship of the Church:

The Didache (C. 90-150 A.D.):

"On the Lord’s Day of the Lord gather together, break bread and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure..."

You are assuming that "Lord's Day" means Sunday, based on only the fact that Jesus rose from the dead on a Sunday.
The Gospel of Luke says that Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, so to me, it makes the "Lord's Day" the Sabbath, not Sunday, since it never says that about Sunday, only the seventh day.
I have looked at all the documents supposedly establishing the early adoption of the Lord's Day, but none of them correlates that term to a specific day of the week.

reply to post by jmdewey60


Jesus can only be your Sabbath rest only when you come and worship and rest in the one and only day hallowed and blessed by God, He calls it my Holy Day,

Ex 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

And so then it is made very clear which day this is,

Ex 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

We prove we love Him when we obey Him!

reply to post by sibbs

Jesus can only be your Sabbath rest only when you come and worship and rest in the one and only day hallowed and blessed by God, He calls it my Holy Day,

I don't know if that is so true.
I doubt that was what the writer of Hebrews had in mind.
I think the important thing is that Sunday was the day of Mithra, so we should not be indirectly worshipping any made-up gods by sanctifying any day dedicated to them.
Saturday was basically abandoned by the other cults as a sort of obsolete god, other than most prominently the Jews.
So it seems to me to be oddly free from pagan baggage.
Now I may be wrong about that, so if anyone knows about another actively worshipped god being designated by the planet Saturn, then you could correct me on that.

I have to look it up, there is a verse in the Old Testament that says God is going to change the Sabbath.

The first Christians assembled together to worship God on the Lord's Day which is Sunday. "Breaking bread, break the bread was the earliest term for the Eucharist. Besides Paul, John speaks of the change, John says the Lord's Day (Rev 1:10).

That word "assemble" is the origin of the term Church. And the first Christians knew what day they assembled.

I didn't look but there are probably changes made to those verses in the KJV Bible.

An offering or our tithes are collected on Sunday at Mass and at non-Catholic Christian Sunday services.



Acts Of Apostles 20:7
And on the first day of the week, when we were assembled to break bread, Paul discoursed with them, being to depart on the morrow: and he continued his speech until midnight.

1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made.

www.drbo.org...

Great topic. It wasn't until I reached adulthood did I realize only recently that the Sabbath falls from sunset on Friday to sunset Saturday eve. Frankly, I've been duped into thinking Sunday was a holy day my entire life.

I have been duped into believing other man-made "traditions" as well, such as not going to Mass every single Sunday would send me to eternal hellfire. In Catholicism, there are tons of "traditions" that don't follow closely to the Bible. Praying the rosary isn't in the Bible, neither is wearing a scapular, nor praying to statues -- which would be considered idolatry by Old Testament standards.

The earliest followers of Yeshua ("Jesus") were all Jewish, and followed the Mosaic Law found in the first 5 books of the Bible ("Torah") - Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. There are repeated references to the Sabbath in the Torah, and these followers, along with Yeshua, would have kept the Sabbath on Saturday, not Sunday.

Later, when the Church became overwhelmed with the Gentile converts, the Mosaic Law ceased to be followed with any regularity. This is clearly outlined in Gibbon's famous classic, "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire".

It wasn't until Constantine came along in the Roman Empire, and transferred the holy day of rest from Saturday to Sunday.

In short, if you really want to follow Christ, and emulate Him and His ways, you would follow the Mosaic Law, and keep the Sabbath on Saturday, not Sunday. Buy yourself a Jewish Siddur - a Jewish prayer book - and start to pray like Christ and His disciples would have prayed.

Originally posted by colbe
I have to look it up, there is a verse in the Old Testament that says God is going to change the Sabbath.

The first Christians assembled together to worship God on the Lord's Day which is Sunday. "Breaking bread, break the bread was the earliest term for the Eucharist. Besides Paul, John speaks of the change, John says the Lord's Day (Rev 1:10).

That word "assemble" is the origin of the term Church. And the first Christians knew what day they assembled.

I didn't look but there are probably changes made to those verses in the KJV Bible.

An offering or our tithes are collected on Sunday at Mass and at non-Catholic Christian Sunday services.



Acts Of Apostles 20:7
And on the first day of the week, when we were assembled to break bread, Paul discoursed with them, being to depart on the morrow: and he continued his speech until midnight.

1 Corinthians 16:2
On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made.

www.drbo.org...

Here is Acts 20:7 in the KJV

King James Version (KJV) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

The Sabbath is now the Lord's Day, Christians gather on Sunday to honor Our Lord's Resurrection. This is important, there is no doubt, they would for sure let us know.

Originally posted by CookieMonster09
Great topic. It wasn't until I reached adulthood did I realize only recently that the Sabbath falls from sunset on Friday to sunset Saturday eve. Frankly, I've been duped into thinking Sunday was a holy day my entire life.

I have been duped into believing other man-made "traditions" as well, such as not going to Mass every single Sunday would send me to eternal hellfire. In Catholicism, there are tons of "traditions" that don't follow closely to the Bible. Praying the rosary isn't in the Bible, neither is wearing a scapular, nor praying to statues -- which would be considered idolatry by Old Testament standards.

The earliest followers of Yeshua ("Jesus") were all Jewish, and followed the Mosaic Law found in the first 5 books of the Bible ("Torah") - Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy. There are repeated references to the Sabbath in the Torah, and these followers, along with Yeshua, would have kept the Sabbath on Saturday, not Sunday.

Later, when the Church became overwhelmed with the Gentile converts, the Mosaic Law ceased to be followed with any regularity. This is clearly outlined in Gibbon's famous classic, "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire".

It wasn't until Constantine came along in the Roman Empire, and transferred the holy day of rest from Saturday to Sunday.

In short, if you really want to follow Christ, and emulate Him and His ways, you would follow the Mosaic Law, and keep the Sabbath on Saturday, not Sunday. Buy yourself a Jewish Siddur - a Jewish prayer book - and start to pray like Christ and His disciples would have prayed.

edit on 19-8-2013 by CookieMonster09 because: (no reason given)

I disagree, I just posted the verses that show they gathered on "the first day of the week" which is Sunday.

If you are Bible Alone, why do you ignore those verses? And don't you wonder the repeated "break bread",
"breaking the bread?" What is that? It is the Eucharist in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

This is the New Covenant, been that for 2000 years.

reply to post by colbe

The first Christians assembled together to worship God on the Lord's Day which is Sunday.

There is no document that makes that correlation that you are just assuming, that the Lord's Day was Sunday.
The Bible says that Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath, so the Lord's Day would be the seventh, not Sunday.