Cop Arrests Five Year Old for Acting Out in School...Zip Ties Hands and Feet. (Video)

It's a 5 year old child not a buffed up hardcore drug taking criminal.
Why even bother charge the child with battery in the first? It's not like that's going to help him. Wow a 5 year old child who needs help, kicks him in the knee and he feels the need to charge him. Get over it.

reply to post by getreadyalready


The kid tried to physically dominate a grown man, demonstrating that he has no fear of consequences. There are many other, more rational ways for a child to protest unwanted touching.

Not allowed to physically retaliate (turn the brat over his knee and give him a few whacks with a belt), the cop took the only option available, which is to restrain the kid. taking him into the station, give him a look at what is future is going to be, should he fail to change his ways was just good follow up. Odds are high that this kid has done far worse things to the other children in the class.

The answer is to teach the kid there are consequences for his actions. Clearly he has not learned that lesson.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

The kid tried to physically dominate a grown man, demonstrating that he has no fear of consequences. There are many other, more rational ways for a child to protest unwanted touching.

Not allowed to physically retaliate (turn the brat over his knee and give him a few whacks with a belt), the cop took the only option available, which is to restrain the kid. taking him into the station, give him a look at what is future is going to be, should he fail to change his ways was just good follow up. Odds are high that this kid has done far worse things to the other children in the class.

The answer is to teach the kid there are consequences for his actions. Clearly he has not learned that lesson.

So the way to teach a kid that tries to be physically dominant is to physically dominate him?

In my years working with troubled kids, the very first thing I was taught was that a kid with a predisposition to try and dominate will only push back further if you try to dominate them. It is about de-escalating things. This cop obviously does not know the meaning of that term.

This is the type of cop that shoots first and asks questions later.

reply to post by getreadyalready

I have a couple of friends here in FL from Cali, and you couldn't pay them to move back. Typical traffic stop includes lying face down in the middle of the road with arms and legs extended. Even if your only offense was having a nice car in a bad neighborhood. Or being white in a black neighborhood, or black in a white neighborhood, etc. And, I'm actually a fan of profiling, but not when it comes at gunpoint and lying face down in the middle of the road with your door left open so they can search your car without a warrant.

GetReady....I'm sorry, but that is a bit of an exaggeration on your friends' part....lol.....

reply to post by ollncasino

By the way, ADHD doesn't make kids hit other kids and policemen. That's just a red herring. The kid is just being an extremely violent little brat.

I'm glad you pointed that out....lol. I was wondering if it was a newly-identified symptom of ADHD that children who have it hit anyone they please. But, remember, Ollncasino, his mom said, "He's just a comedian".....nothing to worry about.....

reply to post by poet1b


Pushing a hand away and kicking a knee under a table is physical domination?

This just sounds like a kid resisting unwanted touching to me. He didn't tackle the cop and chew on his ear, he just slapped away his hand and allegedly kicked his knee, which could have even been an accident.

I tell my 5 year old to fight any unwanted touching. I raise him to be in control so that he will naturally resist someone trying to invade his personal space or the sanctity of his own body. I don't want him being at football camp some day and running into a Penn State type predator.

The kid didn't do a dam thing wrong. He just resisted. He has that right.

Originally posted by NightGypsy
reply to post by ollncasino

 

By the way, ADHD doesn't make kids hit other kids and policemen. That's just a red herring. The kid is just being an extremely violent little brat.

I'm glad you pointed that out....lol. I was wondering if it was a newly-identified symptom of ADHD that children who have it hit anyone they please. But, remember, Ollncasino, his mom said, "He's just a comedian".....nothing to worry about.....

As i said before, this kid is almost certainly an undiagnosed autistic. And autism absolutely can cause violent blackouts and fits of rage.

reply to post by unworldly

People who say "if that happened to my kid, I would...!!" blah blah blah. This is the problem. People expect the world to put up with their kids and whatever disrespect and b.s. their kids feel like dishing out. If your kid is reasonably civil and well-behaved, then you have nothing to worry about. If your kid is a problem, then your kid is not going to be babied. The world is changing, ok. You'd best teach your kids to act straight, because society's tolerance for b.s. is at an all-time low. Get it together.

So true....

Also, a lot of parents today are in denial about how bad their kids act and wind up making excuses for them. Even worse, some parents could care less how their kids behave.

Here's one problem I believe can be a contributing factor to children who exhibit behavior like this:

Many parents treat their children with no respect at all. In public, they'll scream, yell, and curse at the kids and threaten to beat them if they don't do this or that. If this is what they do in public, one can only imagine what goes on at home. Parents who show such disregard for their child's feelings then turn around and expect the child to be respectful to them and other people. How are the kids gonna do that when they've never experienced it themselves? Parents don't want to take any responsibility for some of the worst behavior of their children. I've seen toddlers hall off and pound their fists into their mothers legs, stomach, and face while screaming at them, and the mothers stand there and do nothing.....it's just the norm to them. More than likely, these are the kinds of women who allow their spouses to abuse them in front of the kids as well.

Nevertheless, if we don't control our own behavior when we're angry, and we verbally abuse and threaten our children and embarrass them in public, they are going to be angry little kids. They are gonna mimic our behavior....and the cycle continues.....

Originally posted by getreadyalready
He was already scared of the cop, agitated, and not wanting to be touched.

Yet he displays that by kicking the cop?

I think a more reasonable interpretation is that he is used to hitting people with no consequences.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by NightGypsy
reply to post by ollncasino

 

By the way, ADHD doesn't make kids hit other kids and policemen. That's just a red herring. The kid is just being an extremely violent little brat.

I'm glad you pointed that out....lol. I was wondering if it was a newly-identified symptom of ADHD that children who have it hit anyone they please. But, remember, Ollncasino, his mom said, "He's just a comedian".....nothing to worry about.....

As i said before, this kid is almost certainly an undiagnosed autistic. And autism absolutely can cause violent blackouts and fits of rage.

Well, we don't have enough information to assume that this kid is an undiagnosed autistic, but if you are correct, this would change the scheme of things.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


Children need to be taught that physical aggression will result in physical consequences. This is the way life works, and if they don't learn this as children, then they will learn it as adults, when the consequences are far more grave.

If this kids problem isn't lack of discipline, but a special needs situation, then they need to send him somewhere with other problem children. The other kids in the class shouldn't be forced to be daily traumatized all for the benefit of one child.

The teacher's job is to teach all the children, not spend her day concentrating on one child. Your approach might work on a one on one basis, but not in a classroom.

Personally, I think a few good whacks with the ping pong paddle, like we used to get when I was a kid, is a lot kinder than institutionalization. It worked back then, and it could work now days just fine.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by getreadyalready
He was already scared of the cop, agitated, and not wanting to be touched.

Yet he displays that by kicking the cop?

I think a more reasonable interpretation is that he is used to hitting people with no consequences.

Not true whatsoever. The natural reaction of someone who is agitated and afraid is to lash out, especially children.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by getreadyalready
He was already scared of the cop, agitated, and not wanting to be touched.

Yet he displays that by kicking the cop?

I think a more reasonable interpretation is that he is used to hitting people with no consequences.

Not true whatsoever. The natural reaction of someone who is agitated and afraid is to lash out, especially children.

How can you say "not true whatsoever?" It most certainly CAN be true in many situations. We don't know what this child's circumstances are in detail, so we can only speculate. We have no idea what goes on in his home.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

Children need to be taught that physical aggression will result in physical consequences. This is the way life works, and if they don't learn this as children, then they will learn it as adults, when the consequences are far more grave.

If this kids problem isn't lack of discipline, but a special needs situation, then they need to send him somewhere with other problem children. The other kids in the class shouldn't be forced to be daily traumatized all for the benefit of one child.

The teacher's job is to teach all the children, not spend her day concentrating on one child. Your approach might work on a one on one basis, but not in a classroom.

Personally, I think a few good whacks with the ping pong paddle, like we used to get when I was a kid, is a lot kinder than institutionalization. It worked back then, and it could work now days just fine.

So, again, your idea of how to teach a child not to be physically aggressive is to be physically aggressive toward them?

Anybody with even the slightest knowledge about the human psyche will tell you that this type of reaction to a physically aggressive kid (and, again, one who has obvious psychological issues) will only reinforce to them that the person who is the most physcially dominant will get what they want, and those that arent are forced to concede.

in short, all it does is reinforce the idea that to get what you want, you must be the most physically dominant person in the room.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
The natural reaction of someone who is agitated and afraid is to lash out, especially children.

Speak for yourself. When you are agitated and afraid you hit people?

I don't.

Originally posted by NightGypsy

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by getreadyalready
He was already scared of the cop, agitated, and not wanting to be touched.

Yet he displays that by kicking the cop?

I think a more reasonable interpretation is that he is used to hitting people with no consequences.

Not true whatsoever. The natural reaction of someone who is agitated and afraid is to lash out, especially children.

How can you say "not true whatsoever?" It most certainly CAN be true in many situations. We don't know what this child's circumstances are in detail, so we can only speculate. We have no idea what goes on in his home.

It is absolutely not true whatsoever that you interpretation is more reasonable. How much experience do you have working with kids, especially special needs kids, if I can ask?

I agree that kids need to be taught to behave properly, and subjected to discipline.

Tying a 5 year old up and charging him, are not appropriate examples of this though. How the heck is over-reacting in an abusive way supposed to teach him respect? I don't know what the hell goes through some people's minds.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
The natural reaction of someone who is agitated and afraid is to lash out, especially children.

Speak for yourself. When you are agitated and afraid you hit people?

I don't.

How many times in your life have you been agitated, afraid, and then had someone come in and physically dominate you?

I do like how you cut the part out of my quote where i stated that this was especially the case with children, though. Creative editing always gets the point across...

reply to post by captaintyinknots

Anybody with even the slightest knowledge about the human psyche will tell you that this type of reaction to a physically aggressive kid (and, again, one who has obvious psychological issues) will only reinforce to them that the person who is the most physcially dominant will get what they want, and those that arent are forced to concede.

I do agree with you here. Personally, I've never been a fan of spanking children. I never spanked my daughter, but she has really been an easy child to rear, so I've been lucky. I think we spank and hit our kids as a result of our OWN frustration and anger....and that doesn't send a good message.

reply to post by getreadyalready


Well, if the kid thought he could have pulled it off, he probably would have taken the cop down and chewed on his ear. Probably has done that to a few of his classmates, which is why they are calling in a cop.

It wasn't like he was in some college recruiter's hotel room. You're really off track with these comments. The cop wasn't making a pass at the kid, he was letting him know that he would take physical charge. The kick in the knee was full retaliation.