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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by gravitor

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by PLASIFISK
 


. Hey what's up buddy. Our little friend must have been banned then for a little while.


Correct, on another thread.
Someone calling for an attack on Iran, I called them a lunatic.
The last link was showing how music is used to motivate people to become detatched from the reality of killing others.
Whilst those who make profits are sat on the beach laughing at the mugs doing the killings.
Young men are easily turned into robots to do the wishes of their commanders.
All undertaken under the cover of WAR, with cowards scared to say anything incase they loose their pensions( blood payments).
gravitor




And there is a magnified qualitative difference between the US soldier/sailor/airman/marine than any other nation one earth. To wit: we're all volunteer. Most nations have compulsory service.



This is utter ignorant unresearched bull. I challenge you to name even just the English speaking countries which have compulsory service.

Your statement is so incorrect it's a lie.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:15 AM
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Plasfisk

And there is a magnified qualitative difference between the US soldier/sailor/airman/marine than any other nation one earth. To wit: we're all volunteer. Most nations have compulsory service.

This is utter ignorant unresearched bull. I challenge you to name even just the English speaking countries which have compulsory service.

Your statement is so incorrect it's a lie.

My buddy plasifisk isn't here right now but we can speak for eac other so I figured I would give you a little education because it is so easy.
Country
Military service age and obligation(years of age)
Afghanistan
22 years of age; inductees are contracted into service for a 4-year term (2005)
Albania
19 years of age (2004)
Algeria
19-30 years of age for compulsory military service; conscript service obligation - 18 months (6 months basic training, 12 months civil projects) (2006)
Angola
20-45 years of age for compulsory and 18-45 years for voluntary male military service; conscript service obligation - 2 years; 20-45 years of age for voluntary female service; Angolan citizenship required; the Marinha de Guerra Angola (Navy, MgA) is entirely staffed with volunteers (2011)
Antigua and Barbuda
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Argentina
18-24 years of age for voluntary military service (18-21 requires parental consent); no conscription (2001)
Armenia
18-27 years of age for voluntary or compulsory military service; 2-year conscript service obligation (2010)
Australia
17 years of age for voluntary military service (with parental consent); no conscription; women allowed to serve in Army combat units in non-combat support roles (2010)
Austria
registration requirement at age 17; males under the age of 35 must complete basic military training (6 month duration); males 17 to 50 years old in the militia or inactive reserve are subject to compulsory military service (2011)
Azerbaijan
men between 18 and 35 are liable for military service; 18 years of age for voluntary military service; length of military service is 18 months and 12 months for university graduates (2006)
Bahamas, The
18 years of age; no conscription (2010)
Bahrain
17 years of age for voluntary military service; 15 years of age for NCOs, technicians, and cadets; no conscription (2010)
Bangladesh
16 years of age for voluntary enlisted military service (Air Force); 17 years of age (Army and Navy); conscription is by law possible in times of emergency, but has never been implemented (2010)
Barbados
18 years of age for voluntary military service (younger volunteers require parental consent); no conscription (2009)
Belarus
18-27 years of age for compulsory military service; conscript service obligation - 12-18 months, depending on academic qualifications (2010)
Belgium
18 years of age for voluntary military service; conscription suspended (2010)
Belize
18 years of age for voluntary military service; law allows for conscription only if volunteers are insufficient; conscription has never been implemented; volunteers typically outnumber available positions by 3:1 (2008)
Benin
18-35 years of age for selective compulsory and voluntary military service; a higher education diploma is required; both sexes are eligible for military service; conscript tour of duty - 18 months (2011)
Bermuda
18-30 years of age for voluntary or compulsory enlistment in the Bermuda Regiment; males must register at age 18; term of service is 38 months (2009)
Bhutan
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Bolivia
18-49 years of age for 12-month compulsory male and female military service; when annual number of volunteers falls short of goal, compulsory recruitment is effected, including conscription of boys as young as 14; 15-19 years of age for voluntary premilitary service, provides exemption from further military service (2011)
Bosnia and Herzegovina
18 years of age for voluntary military service; conscription abolished in January 2006; 4-month service obligation; mandatory retirement at age 35 or after 15 years of service (2010)
Botswana
18 is the apparent age of voluntary military service; official minimum age is unknown (2001)
Brazil
21-45 years of age for compulsory military service; conscript service obligation - 9 to 12 months; 17-45 years of age for voluntary service; an increasing percentage of the ranks are "long-service" volunteer professionals; women were allowed to serve in the armed forces beginning in early 1980s when the Brazilian Army became the first army in South America to accept women into career ranks; women serve in Navy and Air Force only in Women's Reserve Corps (2001)
Brunei
18 years of age (est.) for voluntary military service; non-Malays are ineligible to serve (2007)
Bulgaria
18-27 years of age for voluntary military service; conscription ended in January 2008; service obligation 6-9 months (2010)



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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Burkina Faso
18 years of age for voluntary military service; women may serve in supporting roles (2011)
Burma
18-35 years of age (men) and 18-27 years of age (women) for compulsory military service; service obligation 2 years; male (ages 18-45) and female (ages 18-35) professionals (including doctors, engineers, mechanics) serve up to 3 years; service terms may be extended to 5 years in an officially declared emergency; forced conscription of children, although officially prohibited, reportedly continues (2011)
Burundi
military service is voluntary; the armed forces law of 31 December 2004 does not specify a minimum age for enlistment, but the government claims that no one younger than 18 is being recruited; mandatory retirement age 45 (enlisted), 50 (NCOs), and 55 (officers) (2011)
Cambodia
conscription law of October 2006 requires all males between 18-30 to register for military service; 18-month service obligation (2006)
Cameroon
18-23 years of age for male and female voluntary military service; no conscription; high school graduation required; service obligation 4 years; the government periodically calls for volunteers (2010)
Canada
17 years of age for voluntary male and female military service (with parental consent); 16 years of age for reserve and military college applicants; Canadian citizenship or permanent residence status required; maximum 34 years of age; service obligation 3-9 years (2008)
Cape Verde
18 years of age (est.) for selective compulsory military service; 14-month conscript service obligation (2006
Central African Republic
18 years of age for selective military service; 2-year conscript service obligation (2010)
Chad
20 years of age for conscripts, with 3-year service obligation; 18 years of age for volunteers; no minimum age restriction for volunteers with consent from a parent or guardian; women are subject to 1 year of compulsory military or civic service at age of 21 (2004)
Chile
18-45 years of age for voluntary male and female military service, although the right to compulsory recruitment is retained; service obligation - 12 months for Army, 22 months for Navy and Air Force (2008)
China
18-24 years of age for selective compulsory military service, with a 2 year service obligation; no minimum age for voluntary service (all officers are volunteers); 18-19 years of age for women high school graduates who meet requirements for specific military jobs; a recent military decision allows women in combat roles; the first class of women warship commanders was in training in 2011 (2011)
Colombia
18-24 years of age for compulsory and voluntary military service; service obligation - 18 months (2004)
Comoros
18 years of age for 2-year voluntary military service; no conscription; women first inducted into the Army in 2004 (2011)
Congo, Democratic Republic of the
18-45 years of age for voluntary military service (2009)
Congo, Republic of the
18 years of age for voluntary military service; women allowed to serve (2011)
Cote d'Ivoire
18-25 years of age for compulsory and voluntary male and female military service; voluntary recruitment of former rebels into the new national army is restricted to ages 22-29 (2011)
Croatia
18-27 years of age for voluntary military service; 16 years of age with parental consent; 6-month service obligation; conscription abolished 1 January 2008 (2010)
Cuba
17-28 years of age for compulsory military service; 2-year service obligation; both sexes subject to military service (2006)
Curacao
no conscription (2010)
Cyprus
Greek Cypriot National Guard (GCNG): 18-50 years of age for compulsory military service for all Greek Cypriot males; 17 years of age for voluntary service; women may volunteer for a 3-year term; length of service is 25 months (2009)
Czech Republic
18-28 years of age for male and female voluntary military service; no conscription (2011)
Denmark
18 years of age for compulsory and voluntary military service; conscripts serve an initial training period that varies from 4 to 12 months according to specialization; reservists are assigned to mobilization units following completion of their conscript service; women eligible to volunteer for military service (2004)
Djibouti
18 years of age for voluntary military service; 16-25 years of age for voluntary military training; no conscription (2008)
Dominican Republic
16-21 years of age for compulsory military service; recruits must be Dominican Republic citizens; women may volunteer (2010)
Ecuador
20 years of age for selective conscript military service; 12-month service obligation (2008)
Egypt
18-30 years of age for male conscript military service; service obligation 12-36 months, followed by a 9-year reserve obligation (2008)
El Salvador
18 years of age for selective compulsory military service;

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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:35 AM
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Equatorial Guinea
18 years of age for selective compulsory military service; service obligation 2 years; women hold only administrative positions in the Coast Guard (2011)
Eritrea
18-40 years of age for male and female voluntary and compulsory military service; 16-month conscript service obligation (2006)
Estonia
obligation for compulsory service ages 16-60, with conscription "likely" ages 18-27; service requirement 8-11 months (2009)
Ethiopia
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no compulsory military service, but the military can conduct callups when necessary and compliance is compulsory (2011)
Fiji
18 years of age for voluntary military service (2010)
Finland
18 years of age for male voluntary and compulsory - and female voluntary - national military and nonmilitary service; service obligation 6-12 months; mandatory retirement at age 60 (2010)
France
17-40 years of age for male and female voluntary military service (with parental consent); no conscription; 12-month service obligation; women serve in noncombat posts (2010)
Gabon
20 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2009)
Gambia, The
18 years of age for male and female voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Georgia
18 to 34 years of age for compulsory and voluntary active duty military service; conscript service obligation - 18 months (2005)
Germany
17-23 years of age for male and female voluntary military service; conscription ended 1 July 2011; 1-2 year service obligation; women have been eligible for voluntary service in all military branches and positions since 2001 (2011)
Ghana
18-26 years of age for voluntary military service, with basic education certificate; no conscription (2011)
Greece
19-45 years of age for compulsory military service; during wartime the law allows for recruitment beginning January of the year of inductee's 18th birthday, thus including 17 year olds; 17 years of age for volunteers; conscript service obligation - 1 year for all services; women are eligible for voluntary military service (2008)
Guatemala
all male citizens between the ages of 18 and 50 are liable for military service; conscript service obligation varies from 12 to 24 months; women can serve as officers (2009)
Guinea
18-25 years of age for compulsory and voluntary military service; 18-month conscript service obligation (2009)
Guinea-Bissau
18-25 years of age for selective compulsory military service (Air Force service is voluntary); 16 years of age or younger with parental consent, for voluntary service (2010)
Guyana
18-25 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2008)
Honduras
18 years of age for voluntary 2 to 3 year military service (2004)
Hungary
18-25 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription; 6-month service obligation (2010)
India
17 years 6 months of age for voluntary military service; no conscription; women may join as officers, but for noncombat roles only (2010)
Indonesia
18 years of age for selective compulsory and voluntary military service; 2-year conscript service obligation, with reserve obligation to age 45 (officers); Indonesian citizens only (2008)
Iran
19 years of age for compulsory military service; 16 years of age for volunteers; 17 years of age for Law Enforcement Forces; 15 years of age for Basij Forces (Popular Mobilization Army); conscript military service obligation - 18 months; women exempt from military service (2008)
Iraq
18-40 years of age for voluntary military service (2010)
Ireland
17-25 years of age for male and female voluntary military service (17-27 years of age for the Naval Service); enlistees 16 years of age can be recruited for apprentice specialist positions; 17-35 years of age for the Reserve Defense Forces (RDF); maximum obligation 12 years (5 years IDF, 7 years RDF); EU citizenship or 5-year residence in Ireland required (2010)
Israel
18 years of age for compulsory (Jews, Druzes) and voluntary (Christians, Muslims, Circassians) military service; both sexes are obligated to military service; conscript service obligation - 36 months for enlisted men, 21 months for enlisted women, 48 months for officers; pilots commit to 9 years service; reserve obligation to age 41-51 (men), 24 (women) (2010)
Italy
18-27 year of age for voluntary military service; conscription abolished January 2005; women may serve in any military branch; 10-month service obligation, with a reserve obligation to age 45 (Army and Air Force) or 39 (Navy) (2006)
Jamaica
18 years of age for voluntary military service; younger recruits may be conscripted with parental consent (2001)
Japan
18 years of age for voluntary military service; Maritime Self-Defense Force mandatory retirement at age 54 (2011)
Jordan
17 years of age for voluntary military service; conscription for males at age 18 was suspended in 1999, but reinstated in July 2007 in order to provide youth training necessary for job market needs; all males un



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 07:37 AM
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Kazakhstan
18 years of age for compulsory military service; conscript service obligation - 2 years; minimum age for volunteers NA (2004)
Kenya
18-26 years of age for male and female voluntary service (under 18 with parental consent), with a 9-year obligation (7 years for Kenyan Navy); applicants must be Kenyan citizens and provide a national identity card (obtained at age 18) and a school-leaving certificate; women serve under the same terms and conditions as men; mandatory retirement at age 55 (2011)
Korea, North
17 years of age (2004)
Korea, South
20-30 years of age for compulsory military service, with middle school education required; conscript service obligation - 21 months (Army, Marines), 23 months (Navy), 24 months (Air Force); 18-26 years of age for voluntary military service; women, in service since 1950, admitted to 7 service branches, including infantry, but excluded from artillery, armor, anti-air, and chaplaincy corps; HIV-positive individuals are exempt from military service (2011)
Kuwait
18-30 years of age for compulsory and 18-25 years of age for voluntary military service; women age 18-30 may be subject to compulsory military service; conscription suspended in 2001 (2009)
Kyrgyzstan
18-27 years of age for compulsory male military service in the armed forces or Interior Ministry; service obligation - 1 year, with optional fee-based 3-year service in the callup mobilization reserve; women may volunteer at age 19; 16-17 years of age for military cadets, who cannot take part in military operations (2011)
Laos
18 years of age for compulsory military service; minimum 18-month service obligation (2010)
Latvia
18 years of age for voluntary male and female military service; conscription abolished January 2007; under current law, every citizen is entitled to serve in the armed forces for life (2009)
Lebanon
18-30 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2007)
Lesotho
18-24 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription; women serve as commissioned officers (2009)
Liberia
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Lithuania
19-26 years of age for compulsory military service; 18 years of age for volunteers; 12-month conscript service obligation; male registration required at age 16 (2009)
Luxembourg
17-25 years of age for male and female voluntary military service; soldiers under 18 are not deployed into combat or with peacekeeping missions; no conscription; Luxembourg citizen or EU citizen with 3-year residence in Luxembourg (2010)
Macedonia
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Madagascar
18-25 years of age for male-only voluntary military service; no conscription; service obligation - 18 months (either military or equivalent civil service); 20-30 years of age for National Gendarmerie recruits (35 years of age for those with military experience) (2010)
Malawi
18 years of age for voluntary military service; standard obligation is 2 years of active duty and 5 years reserve service (2007)
Malaysia
18 years of age for voluntary military service (2005)
Maldives
18-28 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Mali
18 years of age for selective compulsory and voluntary military service; conscript service obligation - 2 years (2011)
Malta
17 years 6 months of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Mauritania
18 years of age for obligatory consription of all males; conscript service obligation - 2 years; majority of servicemen believed to be volunteers; service in Air Force and Navy is voluntary (2011)
Mexico
18 years of age for compulsory military service, conscript service obligation - 12 months; 16 years of age with consent for voluntary enlistment; conscripts serve only in the Army; Navy and Air Force service is all voluntary; women are eligible for voluntary military service (2007)
Moldova
18 years of age for compulsory military service; 17 years of age for voluntary service; male registration required at age 16; 12-month service obligation (2009)
Mongolia
18-25 years of age for compulsory military service; conscript service obligation - 12 months in land or air defense forces or police; a small portion of Mongolian land forces (2.5 percent) is comprised of contract soldiers; women cannot be deployed overseas for military operations (2006)
Montenegro
compulsory national military service abolished August 2006
Morocco
20 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription; service obligation - 18 months (2011)
Mozambique
registration for military service is mandatory for all males and females at 18 years of age; 18-35 years of age for selective compulsory military service; 18 years of age for voluntary service; 2-year service obligation; women may serve as officers or enlisted (2010)
Namibia
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)



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Nepal
18 years of age for voluntary military service; 15 years of age for military training; no conscription (2011)
Netherlands
20 years of age for an all-volunteer force (2004)
New Zealand
17 years of age for voluntary military service; soldiers cannot be deployed until the age of 18; no conscription (2010)
Nicaragua
18-30 years of age for voluntary military service; tour of duty 18-36 months; requires Nicaraguan nationality and 6th-grade education (2011)
Niger
17-21 years of age for selective compulsory or voluntary military service; enlistees must be Nigerien citizens and unmarried; 2-year service term; women may serve in health care (2009)
Nigeria
18 years of age for voluntary military service (2007)
Norway
18-44 years of age for male compulsory military service; 16 years of age in wartime; 17 years of age for male volunteers; 18 years of age for women; 12-month service obligation, in practice shortened to 8 to 9 months; although all males between ages of 18 and 44 are liable for service, in practice they are seldom called to duty after age 30; reserve obligation to age 35-60; 16 years of age for volunteers to the Home Guard, who serve 6-month duty tours (2009)
Oman
18-30 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Pakistan
17-23 years of age for voluntary military service; soldiers cannot be deployed for combat until age 18; the Pakistani Air Force and Pakistani Navy have inducted their first female pilots and sailors (2009)
Papua New Guinea
16 years of age for voluntary military service (with parental consent); no conscription (2010)
Paraguay
18 years of age for compulsory and voluntary military service; conscript service obligation - 12 months for Army, 24 months for Navy; volunteers for the Air Force must be younger than 22 years of age with a secondary school diploma (2010)
Peru
18-30 years of age for voluntary male and female military service; no conscription (2008)
Philippines
18-25 years of age (officers 21-29) for compulsory and voluntary military service; applicants must be single male or female Philippine citizens (2010)
Poland
18-28 years of age for male voluntary or compulsory military service; service obligation shortened from 12 to 9 months in 2005; conscription is to end in 2012; only soldiers who have completed their conscript service are allowed to volunteer for professional service; as of April 2004, women are only allowed to serve as officers and noncommissioned officers; reserve obligation to age 50 (2009)
Portugal
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no compulsory military service; women serve in the armed forces, on naval ships since 1993, but are prohibited from serving in some combatant specialties; reserve obligation to age 35 (2010)
Qatar
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
Romania
18-35 years of age for male and female voluntary military service; conscription officially ended October 2006; all military inductees (including women) contract for an initial 5-year term of service, with subsequent successive contracts for 3-year terms until age 36 (2009)
Russia
18-27 years of age for compulsory or voluntary military service; males are registered for the draft at 17 years of age; service obligation - 1 year (conscripts can only be sent to combat zones after 6 months training); reserve obligation to age 50
note: over 60% of draft-age Russian males receive some type of deferment - generally health related - each draft cycle (2009)
Rwanda
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription; Rwandan citizenship required (2011)
Saint Kitts and Nevis
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription (2010)
San Marino
16-55 for voluntary service in Voluntary Military Force (2006)
Sao Tome and Principe
18 years of age (est.) (2004)
Saudi Arabia
18 years of age (est.); no conscription (2004)
Senegal
18 years of age for voluntary military service; 20 years of age for selective conscript service; service obligation - 2 years; women have been accepted into military service since 2008 (2011)
Serbia
17 years of age for male compulsory military service; 18 years of age for voluntary service; conscription to be abolished effective 2011; 6-month service obligation, with a reserve obligation to age 60 for men and 50 for women (2010)
Seychelles
18 years of age for voluntary military service (younger with parental consent); no conscription (2010)
ierra Leone
17 years 6 months of age for male and female voluntary military service (younger with parental consent); no conscription; candidates must be HIV negative (2009)
Singapore
18-21 years of age for male compulsory military service; 16 years of age for volunteers; 2-year conscript service obligation, with a reserve obligation to age 40 (enlisted) or age 50 (officers) (2008)
Sint Maarten
no conscription (2010)



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Slovakia
18-30 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription; women are eligible to serve (2011)
Slovenia
18-25 years of age for voluntary military service; conscription abolished in 2003 (2010)
Somalia
note: since 2005, the UN has listed the Transitional Federal Government and its allied militias as persistent violators in recruiting children (2010)
South Africa
18 years of age for voluntary military service; women are eligible to serve in noncombat roles; 2-year service obligation (2007)
South Sudan
the Government of South Sudan announced in August 2010 that anyone younger than 18 years of age would be mustered out of the army, but 900 children were estimated to still be active at the end of that year; in April 2011, a conscription program was being implemented to thwart recruitment of military-aged males into other armed groups (2011)
Spain
20 years of age (2004)
Sri Lanka
18 years of age for voluntary military service; 5-year service obligation (2010)
Sudan
18-33 years of age for male and female compulsory and voluntary military service; 1-2 year service obligation; a requirement that completion of national sevice was mandatory before entering public or private sector employment has been cancelled (2011)
Suriname
18 years of age (est.); recruitment is voluntary, with personnel drawn almost exclusively from the Creole community (2007)
Swaziland
18-30 years of age for male and female voluntary military service; no conscription; compulsory HIV testing required, only HIV-negative applicants accepted (2011)
Sweden
18-47 years of age for male and female voluntary military service; service obligation: 7.5 months (Army), 7-15 months (Navy), 8-12 months (Air Force); the Swedish Parliament has abolished compulsory military service, with exclusively voluntary recruitment as of July 2010; conscription remains an option in emergencies; after completing initial service, soldiers have a reserve commitment until age 47 (2010)
Switzerland
19-26 years of age for male compulsory military service; 18 years of age for voluntary male and female military service; every Swiss male has to serve at least 260 days in the armed forces; conscripts receive 18 weeks of mandatory training, followed by seven 3-week intermittent recalls for training during the next 10 years (2010)
Syria
18 years of age for compulsory military service; conscript service obligation - 21 months (18 months in the Syrian Arab Navy); women are not conscripted but may volunteer to serve (2010)
Taiwan
19-35 years of age for male compulsory military service; service obligation - 2 years; women may enlist; women in Air Force service are restricted to noncombat roles; reserve obligation to age 30 (Army); the Ministry of Defense is in the process of implementing a voluntary enlistment system over the period 2010-2015, although nonvolunteers will still be required to perform alternative service or go through 4 months of military training (2010)
Tajikistan
18-27 years of age for compulsory military service; 2-year conscript service obligation (2011)
Tanzania
18 years of age for voluntary military service (2007)
Thailand
21 years of age for compulsory military service; 18 years of age for voluntary military service; males register at 18 years of age; 2-year conscript service obligation (2009)
Timor-Leste
18 years of age for voluntary military service; no conscription; 18-month service obligation (2011)
Togo
18 years of age for selective compulsory military service; 2-year service obligation (2011)
Tonga
16 years of age for voluntary enlistment (with parental consent); no conscription (2010)
Trinidad and Tobago
18 years of age for voluntary military service (16 years of age with parental consent); no conscription (2010)
Tunisia
20 years of age for compulsory military service, 18 years of age for voluntary military service; 1-year conscript service obligation (2007)
Turkey
19-41 years of age for male compulsory military service; 18 years of age for voluntary service; 15 months conscript obligation for non-university graduates, 6-12 months for university graduates; women serve in the Turkish Armed Forces only as officers; reserve obligation to age 41 (2010)
Turkmenistan
18-30 years of age for compulsory military service; 2-year conscript service obligation (2009)
Uganda
18-26 years of age for voluntary military duty; 18-30 years of age for professionals; no conscription; 9-year service obligation; the government has stated that recruitment under 18 years of age could occur with proper consent and that "no person under the apparent age of 13 years shall be enrolled in the armed forces"; Ugandan citizenship and secondary education required (2010)
Ukraine
18-25 years of age for compulsory and voluntary military service; conscript service obligation - 12 months for Army and Air Force, 18 months for Navy (2010)



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United Arab Emirates
18 years of age for voluntary military service; 18 years of age for officers and women; no conscription; 16-22 years of age for candidates for the UAE Naval College (2011)
United Kingdom
16-33 years of age (officers 17-28) for voluntary military service (with parental consent under 18); women serve in military services, but are excluded from ground combat positions and some naval postings; as of October 2009, women comprised 12.1% of officers and 9% of enlisted personnel in the regular forces; must be citizen of the UK, Commonwealth, or Republic of Ireland; reservists serve a minimum of 3 years, to age 45 or 55; 16 years of age for voluntary military service by Nepalese citizens in the Brigade of Gurkhas; 16-34 years of age for voluntary military service by Papua New Guinean citizens (2009)
United States
18 years of age (17 years of age with parental consent) for male and female voluntary service; maximum enlistment age 42 (Army), 27 (Air Force), 34 (Navy), 28 (Marines); service obligation 8 years, including 2-5 years active duty (Army), 2 years active (Navy), 4 years active (Air Force, Marines) (2010)
Uruguay
18-30 years of age for voluntary military service; up to 40 years of age for specialists; enlistment is voluntary in peacetime, but the government has the authority to conscript in emergencies; minimum 6-year education (2009)
Uzbekistan
18 years of age for compulsory military service; 1-year conscript service obligation; moving toward a professional military, but conscription will continue; the military cannot accommodate everyone who wishes to enlist, and competition for entrance into the military is similar to the competition for admission to universities (2009)
Venezuela
18-30 years of age for compulsory and voluntary military service; 30-month conscript service obligation; Navy requires 6th-grade education for enlisted personnel; all citizens of military service age (18-60 years old) are obligated to register for military service (2011)
Vietnam
18 years of age for male compulsory military service; females may volunteer for active duty military service; conscript service obligation - 2 years (3 to 4 years in the navy); 18-45 years of age (male) or 18-40 years of age (female) for Militia Force or Self Defense Forces (2006)
Yemen
voluntary military service program authorized in 2001; 2-year service obligation (2006)
Zambia
18-27 years of age for male and female voluntary military service (16 years of age with parental consent); no conscription; Zambian citizenship required; mandatory HIV testing upon enlistment; mandatory retirement for officers at age 65 (Army, Air Force) (2011)
Zimbabwe
18-24 years of age for compulsory military service; women are eligible to serve (2010)

So there is your list. Not all are compulsory but I believe you are way off base calling him a lier. Honestly why didn't you take just a few secounds and do a quik seach so you wouldn't look like a Jack #.
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That list is chilling in that it shows how many young impressionable men in particuler are been trained as the blue bra bashing brigade have been.
To be reptile inhuman bullies who feel they are superior to ordinary people, and obviously have been trained to use the sticks as they did.
That is what this thread is about, how military training affects humans....to become ANIMAL.

And there is no hiding behind the glamour of having the best of that training, as Americans and Brits do have, it makes them even more brainwashed.

Once you dress people up in uniforms , it is the uniform that has the power, but the dopes wearing the silly uniforms think it is them.
Little dicks indeed?



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Gravitor!!!!!!!!

What is your problem? You have been a bad, mouthy little one havnt you now.

Your opinions about military personell are like a freash fart in the air. There and gone! Kind of like 3G. Lol

Your insults fall on deaf ears also having no weight to any attempt at fact making you can bring to the thread.

Rant rant rant is all you are doing here.

Its as if you are on a corner of a busy imtersection, perched upon your soap box! And what are you trying to preach Gravitor?

That military personell are animals, programmed borg and the such.

If you were given a serious forum, open floor, in the presence of top officials in the matters of military policy, and historical war facts, down the the human factor, what would you say to them.

I hope you would say nothing that thus far you have ranted here!

Now. Lets focus on ole Gravitor here!



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Grim! Hows it going brother!

I see Gravitor is just as crazy as he can be!

Hahahaha very entertaining.

How have you been?

(i wonder if gravitor expects us to speak in some kind of animal talk to each other)



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Gravitor!!!!!!!!

What is your problem? You have been a bad, mouthy little one havnt you now.

Your opinions about military personell are like a freash fart in the air. There and gone! Kind of like 3G. Lol

Your insults fall on deaf ears also having no weight to any attempt at fact making you can bring to the thread.

Rant rant rant is all you are doing here.

Its as if you are on a corner of a busy imtersection, perched upon your soap box! And what are you trying to preach Gravitor?

That military personell are animals, programmed borg and the such.

If you were given a serious forum, open floor, in the presence of top officials in the matters of military policy, and historical war facts, down the the human factor, what would you say to them.

I hope you would say nothing that thus far you have ranted here!

Now. Lets focus on ole Gravitor here!



No problem, just sick of military thinking, it's animalistic and reptile.
I would have no fear in debating the lunacy of calling something a defence policy, and then utilising it as an imperialistic invasion device to forward a lunatic agenda that involves murdering countless human beings, and then giving themselves tin medals and calling themselves heros, when i consider them reptiles of the lowest order who need stopping.
bring on a female led world where mutual advancement and assistance is the first order, and the out dated barbaric military garbage is seen for what it is...
inhuman, possiblt alien led.

gravitor



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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GRAVITOR ............!!!!!!

Come here lil buddy!

Let ole Sarge give you a hug!!!!

(pats gravitor on the back," its gonna be ok lil buddy, the boogie man wont get you, i promise lil buddy", wipes his tears with the bottom of my ACU jacket)

Lol



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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People in the US have the option of serving in the peace corpse or some other national service-oriented organization. It's not all about learning how to carry guns and run for 5 miles and whatnot. You can elect to go into the navy and just know how to work with engines or radars or similar, non-combat related things. I bet they do learn how to use firearms, though. Point is, even in the military you have some choice what you do. And ultimately, if it's voluntary and you want to serve your country, there're a lot of other options than the military.

I have to admit though.... that guy who posted a list about cult characteristics and compared them to the military, was eerily approaching the realm of truth. But I think any kind of idealogy is liek that. Look at nationalism or how some groups fiercely protect their sense of legitimacy.

I respect military people and peace corps people and national guardsman and others like them and people who have served in various ways. While I did gain myself a standard education and some college, I have never served my country in that way. I am not a mans man. But I've always thought that I could fit in on a radar deck on a sub or something weird like that. But I don't think I'd enjoy it very much. 12-14 hour days for months does not appeal ver ymuch!

My IQ is about 98 or something around that region. I wonder if I'm smart enough for radar stations? I bet most guys do not want to be on the ground with a gun and some other boys and told to shoot up the bad guys. I am a squirmy coward beneath whatever fake persona I try to fill. Guns and bombs and adrenaline and spilled blood scare the sh** out of me.

And since I did not support the Iraq war and question these wars so much, it has kept me from pursuing the idea any further. Even Obama coming over and asking me to join wouldn't do it. If there was a draft and people my age were forced to be candidates, I'd have no choice.

When I dream of better things or think of itneresting thigns it's not usually the military.

What if I had to choose between working in a cotton field for 12 hours every day for 6 months or working at a rdar station on a sub for 12 hours eveyr day for 6 months? I'd be on the sub.

But more than likely they'd just shoot me because I'm too lazy to work that much.,

MY hope is not wars break out and things get better and robots cab clean my feet so I can live a life of luxury and have a sexbot and just write in an unknown forum about obsucre things. If that fails, I'll do what I can. There're ways of slipping through the cracks. Cowards don't live easy.
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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Yes, thats the idea....to follow orders. That is a crutial part of the effectiveness of an army. To be prepared to function as collateral damage. If a war plan of an general need soldiers to function as a target for the enemy...a distraction if you will.....the soldiers must be willing to follow the order that maybe sents them directly into death....for the victory of the fatherland.

In order to mold a person into this "brainless" asset there must be an effective well thoughtout brainwash program do its work. The millitairy have honed such programs into perfection over the years. Probably with punishment and reward....like animals are conditioned.

But that is the reality of a victorious army...you can not have soldiers who would like to go into debate with their officers and discus the plan of attack and have the option to refuse to carry out the order......no matter if the plan sucks or will be brilliant.

Anyways.....thats the price to be paid for having a proffesional and deadly army.,,,and to enjoy freedom...or to serve your true king.




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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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Hello johnywhite:

Lets talk about being a "mans man" shall we.

Being a mans man does not require military service. What it does require is going the extra mile in what ever you do. We soldiers chose to serve our nation by being soldiers. However, to all the scientist, doctors, engineers, teachers, and any of whom i missed that do a job that betters the country, the society, the civilian, the children, reguardless of color.

Well to them i take my hat off and thank them.

I thank them for helping create an america i love, cherish, and protect.

Although america is not perfect, it is my home and i love it with all its faults and imperfections.

I have hope that all can be and will be fixed and made right in due time.

Sooo there you go! This is just my opinion. But if you contribute in some manner within any of those ways you are a mans man.

If you do nothing but complain about everything yet contribute in not way physically.

Then well, you are what you are.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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You really believe a leader would send his/her soldiers to their deaths on purpose.

Your an idiot and have watched wayyyyy to many movies.

I do believe your just talking to say as much BS as possible to what kind of responses you would get.

Well lol again your an idiot.

Gravitor.... Please control your little mini me's



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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In a college english class back in 2003 there was a guy that sat across from me. He was about my height: 5'7". The guy next to him was taller and always poetic. Anyway, the guy I'm referring to was learning how to operate (drive?) an M1-Tank. He probably went to Iraq. I don't know what happened to him. But I know he wasn't evil. The military is composed of people.
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posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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Yeah. Ive been in the military 15 years now, and have met many many good people. Not a bad bone in their bodies. The military has lots of non combat jobs. Very technical jobs. But remember at the core a soldier is a soldier. Not a monster or robot but a soldier. And so on and so on.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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In a college english class back in 2003 there was a guy that sat across from me. He was about my height: 5'7". The guy next to him was taller and always poetic. Anyway, the guy I'm referring to was learning how to operate (drive?) an M1-Tank. He probably went to Iraq. I don't know what happened to him. But I know he wasn't evil. The military is composed of people.
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jonnywhite,
I am really liking Your posts.
You said.."the military is composed of people"...very true, but
What are people composed of???
I don't know if You realise that PEOPLE( WE THE PEOPLE) have two brains?
Left and right , and they are totally seperate.
Most men operate out of their left hemisphere, and thats where the military resides...the animal.
Women utilise both hemispheres, and are therefore far far more advanced.
But the ANIMAL is big and aggressive, and has subdued the right hemisphere for milleniums.
Any man showing dual brain thinking is often ridiculed by "OLD SERGEANT TYPES" who seek to CONTROL.

We the PEOPLE are possibly a cross breed between reptiles and humans, I am pleased to hear from a more human, thats YOU.
gravitor
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